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TeufelHund84
05-03-2006, 05:54 PM
Before anyone gets upset, I tried reading through some old threads (including some links) just to make sure I wasn't spitting out the same old questions by the newbies, but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. So...

I just downloaded the il-2 demo on a whim after taking an interest in combat flight sims recently and even with just a keyboard (no joystick, I'll get to that in a sec) I'm already hooked! To that end, I was wondering if some of you guys wouldn't mind helping out a newcomer with some questions...

-- Which game exactly should I buy? Il-2: FB and the Ace pack? I know that FB has all the features from the first game, but is there anything missing in it from the standalone first game that I'd be missing? Or is it not worth it? Basically, which copies should I be getting?

-- Hardware: I'm looking for a good compromise between price and quality in joysticks as I don't have one yet; I've looked at a few but I was wondering if some of you pros could give some recommendations. Also, is there even such a thing as cheap (i.e. 50-60 USD or less?) rudder pedals for the PC?

-- Is this the central site to get all the free extras i.e. flyable planes, skins, other essential goodies?

-- Last question I promise....any Maddox flight sims that take place in North Africa or Europe? I've been comparing the sims and I personally like Il-2 the best so I'd rather not have to switch to CFS3 for western Europe theater, and to date I haven't seen any African theater ww2 combat flight sims...

I know that's all a mouthful there but I really do appreciate any help you guys can give me as there looks to be some pretty cool people on these boards; good luck and good hunting (and please fire a warning burst across my nose before putting me down on the servers when/if you see me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Thanks folks.

gotha_g.IV
05-03-2006, 06:03 PM
Where do ya want to use it for? Single player? online?

I would wait for BOB and forget about the rest.

But hee, that's just me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-03-2006, 06:11 PM
Welcome!

I've stolen these two links from Bearcat's sig - he won't mind, I'm sure. Should explain what's on offer if you go the whole hog and get FB + AEP + PF. These boards are a good place to start, but Bear's links will show you much more of what's out there. Don't be frightened to ask questions, we don't bite. Have a read, take your time and get back to us. There really is nothing comparable if you want to go down the WWII air war road.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m...591089933#4591089933 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/4591089933/r/4591089933#4591089933)


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=51910959

TeufelHund84
05-03-2006, 06:12 PM
Single player mostly and some online too.

What's BOB? Haven't read any news about it yet. Does it mean Battle of Britain?

I am gonna have a hard time forgetting about the rest really because I love the eastern front too, not just the others http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Also one more question just out of curiosity, how does the gun sight technology work on those old ww2 planes?? It almost looks like the same principle as modern red dot scopes on guns that people use today. Of course you all know how the reticle does not move even though your perspective shifts slightly within the cockpit, it's enough to make me pretty curious. I tried finding out about it but oddly enough there is no wealth of information about ww2 combat aircraft gun sights on the net http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-03-2006, 06:31 PM
And don't just take our word for it - nice, concise reviews here.

http://www.spanishcastle.com/justplanefun/simreviews.html

TeufelHund84
05-03-2006, 06:52 PM
Holy reading list batman...guess I got my work cut out for me. Be back in a few weeks!

By the way I about ruined my trousers after reading this thread... http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9971065934

I can't wait to get owned by a guy with a spongebob stick...

Hashmark13
05-03-2006, 06:59 PM
Buy:
Forgotten Battles
Aces Expansion Pack
Pacific Fighters

There are patch guides here (with links) so htat will help you with patching. Get up to 4.04m

Get Pe-2 addon (don't let the forumites scare you)

I don't know what your hardware specs are, please list them.

Get a Saitek 290, best 20$ joystick I've ever seen. Real stiff stick, rudder controls built in.

This game covers (if you get all of them) The East and West european fronts.
I believe it covers the North Africa front.
And, it clearly covers the Pacific Front.

Edit: it also has over 190 flyable aircraft.

TeufelHund84
05-03-2006, 07:44 PM
sys specs are:
Video: AGP, geforce fx 6600
RAM: pc3200, 1 gig
CPU: AMD 64, 3200
sound: sb 5.1
motherboard: nforce something or other, just got it from a friend, can't recall exact model.

On the demo i cranked resolution and everything as high as possible and it runs flawlessly. I don't know how much of the graphics engine has changed for the most updated version but I think i can run the game just fine.

Dew-Claw
05-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by TeufelHund84:
sys specs are:
Video: AGP, geforce fx 6600
RAM: pc3200, 1 gig
CPU: AMD 64, 3200
sound: sb 5.1
motherboard: nforce something or other, just got it from a friend, can't recall exact model.

On the demo i cranked resolution and everything as high as possible and it runs flawlessly. I don't know how much of the graphics engine has changed for the most updated version but I think i can run the game just fine.

Yoyu should be fine.
you may have to do some tweaking a little to keep the same frame rate as the demo...little more happinig http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
but on-line you can be just as comptetitive as anyone else providing connection is good.

strewth
05-03-2006, 08:17 PM
Oh Noooooooooooooo! Another one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

How many of these poor souls are we going to lure into this eternal damnation http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

I said it before and I will say it again:

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gifIf ya know what's good for ya laddie, ya will run for ya life before this foul beast lures you in and consumes ya soul, as it has done to the rest of us poor wretches http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif



But, hey and welcome to the end of normal life as you knew it.

Things you require in order; and my equivalent to it:

Sense of humour = Er, ummm, OK, tooo weird, we move on http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

Joystick with throttle capability = Saitek X-52

Rudder pedals = CH-Pro Pedals

Head Tracker = TrackIR

Comm's setup = Teamspeak + Headphones + microphone

Relationship with family and friends = NIL

Best of luck mate. Look foward to seeing you around some more

WTE_Galway
05-03-2006, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by TeufelHund84:
Before anyone gets upset, I tried reading through some old threads (including some links) just to make sure I wasn't spitting out the same old questions by the newbies, but couldn't find exactly what I was looking for. So...

I just downloaded the il-2 demo on a whim after taking an interest in combat flight sims recently and even with just a keyboard (no joystick, I'll get to that in a sec) I'm already hooked! To that end, I was wondering if some of you guys wouldn't mind helping out a newcomer with some questions...

-- Which game exactly should I buy? Il-2: FB and the Ace pack? I know that FB has all the features from the first game, but is there anything missing in it from the standalone first game that I'd be missing? Or is it not worth it? Basically, which copies should I be getting?

-- Hardware: I'm looking for a good compromise between price and quality in joysticks as I don't have one yet; I've looked at a few but I was wondering if some of you pros could give some recommendations. Also, is there even such a thing as cheap (i.e. 50-60 USD or less?) rudder pedals for the PC?

-- Is this the central site to get all the free extras i.e. flyable planes, skins, other essential goodies?

-- Last question I promise....any Maddox flight sims that take place in North Africa or Europe? I've been comparing the sims and I personally like Il-2 the best so I'd rather not have to switch to CFS3 for western Europe theater, and to date I haven't seen any African theater ww2 combat flight sims...

I know that's all a mouthful there but I really do appreciate any help you guys can give me as there looks to be some pretty cool people on these boards; good luck and good hunting (and please fire a warning burst across my nose before putting me down on the servers when/if you see me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Thanks folks.


Basically just buy the complete DVD and forget all the downloads.


As for sticks the MSFFB2 is ideal for IL2 but no longer made, though if you spot a good preloved one on ebay grab it.

-HH-Quazi
05-03-2006, 09:41 PM
Actually, the Ubi Store has the complete install of all three sims merged with the Pe-2 addon already in the mix: http://shop.ubi.com/Prod_ExtDesc.asp?catalogid=396&id=97

This will bring you straight up to where most everyone else is. Just burn it to disk when you get the exe dl'd.

If they do this with the last two addon\patches, I will purchase it. I have held off on the DVD deal in hopes this will come about.

Bearcat99
05-03-2006, 09:54 PM
First off... welcome.. secondly go here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html).. NOW and get an X-45 for $39 before they run out. A great stick and for that price a steal.... I already have a spare...
Third..... get this (http://shop.ubi.com/Prod_ExtDesc.asp?catalogid=396&id=97). It is everything.... up to 4.05.

Lastly this is the place to go... however if you hit the Stirmovik Essentials link in my sig below and visit Airwarfare.com you will find the most all encompassing flight sim site in the world... at least that I know of. If another one that is more all inclusive exists I dont know about it.... bookmark the site. But get that X-45 ASAP... for $39 you cantbeat it.. first off the stick is hard as all get out to find now... because the X-52 has supplanted it... secondly originally it was selling for $79... and new it sells for $79.... it is a good stick with very programmable software.

Your rig seems more than decent enough to run the sim well. Keep in mind that the IL2 demo is not FB... it isnt as system intensive as this sim is.. but you should still be able to run FB. Be advised the learning curve is steep. Be prepared for a journey that could last years... unless you just arent up to the challenge... offline is good.. online is great..... Some people complain about the offline flying.. but i think it is challenging enough.. especially if you are new to simming.


Have fun.. and again.... welcome.

dieg777
05-03-2006, 09:59 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

www.airwarfare.com (http://www.airwarfare.com) is where you will get info on what you need to buy and how to get the best out of it as well as many helpful guides, campaigns,utilities etc

read the faq and the users manual and thaat will answer most of your initial questions - also check out the guide section

good luck

Lucius_Esox
05-03-2006, 10:03 PM
Hehee,,, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif Welcome m8.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TeufelHund84
05-03-2006, 11:46 PM
Hehe thanks folks, I'm not too worried about getting hooked on some new kind of sim crack, I spent a good while being a wannabe sea dog with SHIII, even got to the point doing trig calculations for firing solutions for awhile.

The ladies love it when I tell them that.

And thanks for the hardware recommendations, I'll definitely take it to heart.