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SlithMan
08-26-2008, 10:32 AM
Hey guys my Saitek x36 stick and throttle that I have used since the thing came out finally fell apart after the duct tape holding it together rotted away http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif, I loved the thing and so I got an x52 thinking id like it too, but I dont http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif The stick is too small for my hands, I dislike the twist rudder compared to the rockers on the x36 throttle and the thing doesnt have enough spring tension and is really touchy for my tastes even after tweaking it a bunch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif. So I need some reccomendations for a new stick, I was thinking of an x45 since it looks the same as the x36 but Ive heard tons of bad things. Anyways I need a good stick with decent spring tension for WWII flyers, any ideas? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

Stingray333
08-26-2008, 10:37 AM
I don't know if you have tried it or not, but the botton plate that your hand rests upon on the X-52 is adjustable and can be lowered by unscrewing a thumb screw on the front of the joystick

Urufu_Shinjiro
08-26-2008, 10:40 AM
Get a CH fighterstick for the control stick, some rudder pedals and use the X52 throttle. Also, before you right off the X52 set the sensitivity curve in game to all 100's and see if thats any better, and like stingray says, the size should be adjustable, I have large hands and still have two notches of room left.

Pablo_uk
08-26-2008, 10:48 AM
I bought the X52 Pro abnd when i first used it i hated it. Felt like i was flying a blancemange. Then a few people said the same as Urufu_Shinjiro, all sliders too 100 and now its fantastic. Let us know how you get on. There is a cheap mod that used a cd spindle cover trimmed that gave more tension. Might have been done by mystic puma. Look on you tube.

Urufu_Shinjiro
08-26-2008, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Pablo_uk:
I bought the X52 Pro abnd when i first used it i hated it. Felt like i was flying a blancemange. Then a few people said the same as Urufu_Shinjiro, all sliders too 100 and now its fantastic. Let us know how you get on. There is a cheap mod that used a cd spindle cover trimmed that gave more tension. Might have been done by mystic puma. Look on you tube.

Yes, thank you. I forgot to mention that you can use a foam ring from cd/dvd spindle to stick between the top of the spring and the bottom of the handle and it will firm it up just right.

SlithMan
08-26-2008, 02:48 PM
fu_Shinjiro, all sliders too 100 and now its fantastic. Let us know how you get on. There is a cheap mod that used a cd spindle cover trimmed that gave more tension. Might have been done by mystic puma. Look on you tube.


Ill try that but I had to put all the sliders down to like from 7 to 80 its so touchy, also I like the CH combat stick more than the fighter stick becuase it has more buttons, is there a big diffrence in quality between the two?

Urufu_Shinjiro
08-26-2008, 03:00 PM
Ah, I meant combat stick, whichever one has more doodads on it, lol. I fiddled with the input curves on my X52 for weeks on end trying to find the right one and it was very sensitive like you said and then out of desperation I set it to all 100 and I was blown away at how much better it is. The X52 has a much larger range of motion than most sticks so a curve is not needed, all 100 and you get exactly what the stick input is, not a filtered curve and it works for the long throw of the X52. Be sure to download il2 sticks or il2 joycontrol if you use the rotaries for trim so you can set a curve for them as they are too sensitive at stock.

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-26-2008, 03:13 PM
CH Fighterstick, CH Pro Throttle, CH Pro Pedals and never look back. Best gaming investment I have ever made, I only wish I would have done it years ago and saved me a few headaches and letdowns.

S!

Zoom2136
08-26-2008, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by SlithMan:
... The stick ... doesnt have enough spring tension and is really touchy for my tastes even after tweaking it a bunch...

Just a quick fix for this cut a round piece of plastic in which you cut a groove in it and slide it under the base of the handle... just compress the spring down before you slide it in... voila an instant fix... this will make it a lot more stiffer...

WTE_Galway
08-26-2008, 05:38 PM
I still use an ancient MS FFB2

M_Gunz
08-26-2008, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by SlithMan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">fu_Shinjiro, all sliders too 100 and now its fantastic. Let us know how you get on. There is a cheap mod that used a cd spindle cover trimmed that gave more tension. Might have been done by mystic puma. Look on you tube.


Ill try that but I had to put all the sliders down to like from 7 to 80 its so touchy, also I like the CH combat stick more than the fighter stick becuase it has more buttons, is there a big diffrence in quality between the two? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

About as big as the price difference. Sounds like you were ready to move up anyway.

Enforcer572005
08-27-2008, 01:17 AM
Ditto on the CH products. I've used a combat stick and pedals for over 7 yrs with no problem. Im replacing them with USB Fighter stick and their advanced pedals for my new computer Im getting next week (Quazi is building it for me). I intend on getting another throttle to as soon as I can afford it. CH is the only stick I will even consider.

WTE_Galway
08-27-2008, 01:33 AM
Originally posted by Enforcer572005:
Ditto on the CH products. I've used a combat stick and pedals for over 7 yrs with no problem. Im replacing them with USB Fighter stick and their advanced pedals for my new computer Im getting next week (Quazi is building it for me). I intend on getting another throttle to as soon as I can afford it. CH is the only stick I will even consider.

Well my CH pedals do occasionally lose a brake axis due to a particular wire breaking, but once you know how its a 2 minute job to pull the bottom off and fix it.

Overall they are great.

STENKA_69.GIAP
08-27-2008, 03:06 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:

Well my CH pedals do occasionally lose a brake axis due to a particular wire breaking, but once you know how its a 2 minute job to pull the bottom off and fix it.



If the wires are persistently breaking at the point they pass through the guide it is because that creates a stress point.

Open up the guide slots and araldite into place a short length of drinking straw. Then pass the wires through the straw. This will let the wires slide smoothly through the guide and prevents sharp bends.

Fix it once.

SlithMan
08-28-2008, 10:59 PM
Ok thanks guys Im going to go with a CH stick and keepo the saitex52 throttle and get some pedals when i can, so get the Combat stick or Fighterstick? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

DuckyFluff
08-29-2008, 01:11 PM
Fighterstick is the top of the range afaik http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Thats what I have and its as good as the day it came out of the box over 3 years ago http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-29-2008, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by SlithMan:
Ok thanks guys Im going to go with a CH stick and keepo the saitex52 throttle and get some pedals when i can, so get the Combat stick or Fighterstick? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

Fighterstick!

S!

DuckyFluff
08-29-2008, 02:14 PM
Yes the Fighterstick...it has that intangible "Built in the USA" feel about it, utilitarian, well engineered(over?), and butt ugly, lol.
BUT despite its lack of "design" and "finesse" its undeniably the BEST joystick available to the mass market and it will last a long, long, time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I reckon you could literally hammer in 6 inch nails with it and still use it for years afterwards http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fehler
08-30-2008, 02:12 PM
You could just make your own...

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3231057376

And it will never break!