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GreyBeast
02-23-2005, 02:20 AM
Help!

My four-months-old X45 creaks and squeaks like mad.

I find the time to fly at night, but if this goes on, I'm afraid I'll be waking the neighbors with my rusty old soup stirrer.

Does anyone have tips about what I can do to stop the madness? I'm talking about the X45's joystick controller. Apart from the fact that it's stiff as hell, it makes agonizing noises when I move it...

Thanks for any tips!

kit_lg2002
02-23-2005, 02:34 AM
Same problem here, i think i will go back to my MSFF2 and use just the throttle from the x45, i dont mind the squeaking and the creaks but indeed its stiff as hell as you just told.

SlickStick
02-23-2005, 02:35 AM
Taylortony posted me a great tip for my squeaky X-45.

Use a candle or similar wax and run it around the ring and the bottom of the stick handle that contacts the ring. Not too much and use your finger to remove excess.

May take more than one application. Should clear it right up. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Longjocks
02-23-2005, 02:53 AM
Petroleum Jelly works wonders. I have a small tub that I use for those rare chafed lips (truly... not for social activities http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) and now also for my X45.

Blue-Lexus
02-23-2005, 03:44 AM
I removed the spring and fitted 4 rubber bands atached just under the grip to 4 clips fixed to the base.
this worked so well i use 100 - 100 sensitivity for acurate control.

SlickStick
02-23-2005, 03:44 AM
One thing I've always heard is not to use petroleum-based products on the plastic parts of a stick.

Just passing on what I was told about that and how the wax worked for my stick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VV_Holdenb
02-23-2005, 04:20 AM
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I agree with SlickStick, I use a little candle wax on my X45 and peace is restored and all works well.

Using petroleum-based products is a very bad idea they collect dust and dirt more effectively than a hoover. Not what you want
between smooth "playing" surfaces in Joystick or throttle.

Sandman_UK
02-23-2005, 04:56 AM
I had the same problem and you know what i did? bought a new one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I was about to try the candle stuff when i noticed that they were clearing the stock at PC world for 19.99, but they had tagged it wrong and i got a whole new one for 9.99! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Bargain! I got a year and a half of the other one, so i candel waxed it and gave that to an aspiring IL2 player who im trying to teach http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

10! i could not get out the shop quick enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MEGILE
02-23-2005, 05:07 AM
The creaking does my 'ed in.

EDIT: nice sig, i happen to be listening to Pink Floyd at the mo.

F19_Orheim
02-23-2005, 06:37 AM
candle works great

GreyBeast
02-23-2005, 08:12 AM
Thanks for the tips everybody! Will give the wax a try, althoug fiddling with the spring might work as well.

And thanks, Megile, for the compliment. PF's a classic (I don't mean Pacific Fighters). I'm a fan of your sense of humor, by the way.

I see I'm not the only one annoyed with the creaking and squeaking. My neighbors used to have a bed just like that...

Way to go, Sandman! I have a story to tell that's very similiar to yours.

I saw some beautiful cloth once in a shop window. The price per meter had been reduced from 80 to 40". I thought: "still expensive, but I just gotta have it". I asked for tow meters' worth, figuring that's what I could afford. The shopkeeper went 'round the back and came back saying she was really sorry but she couldn't find her yardstick. I said "that's no problem, a meter is about THIS long", stretching my arms as far apart as I could, more in jest than being serious.

She said "OK, stay just like that, I'll bring the cloth". Short of pulling my arms out of their sockets, I couldn't help but grin when she measured out about 2x 1,8 meters of the marvellous cloth for me. In the end, there was about half a meter of it left over, which she let me have for free.

Now beat that, originally 320"'s worth of cloth for 80!

We should go shopping together.

Longjocks
02-23-2005, 04:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VV_Holdenb:
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I agree with SlickStick, I use a little candle wax on my X45 and peace is restored and all works well.

Using petroleum-based products is a very bad idea they collect dust and dirt more effectively than a hoover. Not what you want
between smooth "playing" surfaces in Joystick or throttle. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's probably true depending on your joystick's environment. Mine lube is dust free, but then again I keep it maintained by cleaning it off and replacing it every now and then.

Tully__
02-24-2005, 02:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kit_lg2002:
Same problem here, i think i will go back to my MSFF2 and use just the throttle from the x45, i dont mind the squeaking and the creaks but indeed its stiff as hell as you just told. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's a tension adjustment screw on the bottom of the X-45 throttle, try backing off the tension a bit....

GreyBeast
02-24-2005, 02:56 AM
Tully, the throttle's just fine. Adjusted that via the screw underneath the controller. Saitek forgot the most important part, though, the screw underneath the JOYSTICK controller to adjust the tension of the spring.

RasMichael
02-24-2005, 03:31 AM
I just tiewrapped two coils of the spring together (as seen on the internet TM)
and it's like having a new stick.

I seem to remember that there was pictures of the procedure posted around here. Search.

GreyBeast
02-24-2005, 03:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RasMichael:
I just tiewrapped two coils of the spring together (as seen on the internet TM)
and it's like having a new stick.

I seem to remember that there was pictures of the procedure posted around here. Search. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No need to go through the trouble. I get the idea, brilliant, by the way. Now, why didn´t I think of THAT? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Really, the easiest way to do it. By the way, I think I remember you from the "who we are..." thread, the one with the beard, blond and Scandinavian-looking, right, living in Germany?

Thanks for the tip, will definitely go for it.

RasMichael
02-24-2005, 03:52 PM
Yup, that's me alright. Sexiest man alive http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

The tip is not my idea though, I palmed it of some greater mind somewhere.

ronison
02-24-2005, 06:58 PM
Quote:
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That's probably true depending on your joystick's environment. Mine lube is dust free, but then again I keep it maintained by cleaning it off and replacing it every now and then.
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I think the reason you dont want to use a petroleum product has less to do with dust and more to do with the degridation of plastics.

Being that palstic itself is a product of a petroleum base you could actully "soffen" the plastic and cause yourself more problems than you origanly had with a squeeky joy stick.

Most plastic that has a lubricant on it is lubed with a silicone base lubricant. You may want to look into something like this in lue of your patroleum jelley.

BelaLvgosi
02-24-2005, 07:12 PM
Lube it quick and while you can! Bleh, I broke mine a few hours ago in the middle of a campaign, that ring simply popped out as whole because it's too thin to support such spring strenght. What makes me mad, is that I lubed that stick since day one, geez POS toy. I can't find the receipt and probably it won't be replaced were I bought it.

Sorry for the OT rant, but I'm really mad.

GreyBeast
02-25-2005, 01:11 AM
Err... gentlemen, please throw in the keyword "Saitek" or "X45" at least every once in a while...

"...lube it quick while you can, I broke mine..."
"...popped out as a whole..."
"...lubed that stick once a day..."

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Children read this! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

...or have I just come out of the "dirty mind" closet?

Longjocks
02-25-2005, 01:50 AM
Oh... sorry, we're talking about flight controllers?! Oops.

Lav69
02-26-2005, 06:48 PM
candle wax is all you need. Lube it mate.

LStarosta
02-26-2005, 07:02 PM
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GreyBeast
02-26-2005, 07:34 PM
Errrr... thanks, LStarosta, good idea... but I wasn´t thinking of Claudia What's-Her-Name... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

F16_Neo
02-26-2005, 07:45 PM
Who invented the word "joy-stick" anyway lmao.
Just dont use any spray-lubricant, degrades plastic surfaces = makes it worse.

GreyBeast
02-26-2005, 08:33 PM
...besides, I'm going to try those TIE-WRAPS on Claudia ...I mean... the joystick...

Taylortony
02-27-2005, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BelaLvgosi:
Lube it quick and while you can! Bleh, I broke mine a few hours ago in the middle of a campaign, that ring simply popped out as whole because it's too thin to support such spring strenght. What makes me mad, is that I lubed that stick since day one, geez POS toy. I can't find the receipt and probably it won't be replaced were I bought it.

Sorry for the OT rant, but I'm really mad. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


if they dont change it i can show you what i did to repair it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LStarosta
02-27-2005, 08:27 AM
Surely, you mean Julia...

GreyBeast
02-27-2005, 09:23 AM
Of course... Julia...

"...blonde, teasy, biting my nail as I blush..." Julia

"...thanks for the tip, but WE won´t be needing that KY Jelly..." Julia

"...get your butt over here and I'll see what I can do about your squeeky joystick..." Julia

"...let's find out about that 'Beast' in your name..." Julia

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif Julia

BelaLvgosi
02-27-2005, 12:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Taylortony:
if they dont change it i can show you what i did to repair it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Currently I'm waiting for a second receipt in the store I bought so I can deliver it for repairs (I just hope I don't get the new x45 that comes with cd 1.0 which can't be calibrated...). On a funny note, when I went there I was just starting to explain what was broke and they already knew what it was. I guess it happens often lol.

Were you the one that machined a white nylon ring? That was a neat job!

Taylortony
02-27-2005, 12:50 PM
Yes i am the one, mine lasted nearly 3 years before i broke that bit, some other sticks would have been binned 2 years prior to that so i cant complain http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GreyBeast
02-27-2005, 01:03 PM
Gentlemen! If taking a couple of tie-wraps to join two of the spring's rings isn't the BEST idea to get the joystick to move more freely and therefore stop creaking...

then, and only then, can you go through the pains of replacing factory parts with homemade do-it-yourself solutions!

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