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Feathered_IV
10-20-2004, 10:17 PM
Did we get one?

Also, do the Australians have their own voices? Is the "Richie Cunningham" US voice still there?

Argh! Can't wait!!!!

sukebeboy
10-22-2004, 06:39 AM
Japanese voices are there, but many lines are missing.

The "Australian" voice pack is copied straight over from the guy who made a Battle of Britain scenario pack for IL2FB. I can't remember if it was Ponymando or ExtremeONe or someone else. Anyway, it's the exact same voice pack.

beepboop
10-22-2004, 08:06 AM
The japs do have voices now, although some of their early planes are so crude that they lack a radio, and so you don't hear any chatter. When you do hear it though, you'll find yourself distracted by the hilarious nature of the language, and wonder how someone can possibly rabbit away so stupidly when they are getting shot. "Hai hadjusun kimosabe. Hoi! Ooga booga" All the more reason to shoot 'em down rather than fly 'em.

fabianfred
10-22-2004, 08:18 AM
beebpoop........ I bet you are an american with that stupid prejudicial attitude

no wonder the adult world is bored with everything american.....

Philipscdrw
10-22-2004, 08:25 AM
Indeed. ALthough all the Americans I know are very nice people.

beepboop
10-22-2004, 08:30 AM
A Fabian? Well, no wonder that you are espousing liberal-hippie politically correct anti-American nonsense. Now, I€m sure you're surprised that I am aware of the Fabian Society, but, you see, I am in fact British and, I'll hazard the judgement, rather better educated than you. After all, I am capable of using punctuation in my posts, something which they evidently omitted to teach you at St Marx's College for Left Wing Intellectuals.

Stop taking everything so seriously, you deadly earnest bore.

weasel75
10-22-2004, 10:07 AM
beepboop said "japs" .... waaahhhhh

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

But honestly, I enjoy all the languages in IL2/FB/PF... and the more complete, the better.

Obi_Kwiet
10-22-2004, 10:16 AM
Wow another IBTL thread!

Chuck_Older
10-22-2004, 10:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fabianfred:
beebpoop........ I bet you are an american with that stupid prejudicial attitude

no wonder the adult world is bored with everything american..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jesus on a pogo stick! I hear tell that Americans eat babies, worship the Devil AND are all prejudicial http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You got a nice prejudicial attitude going on there, yourself, with your assumption, if you don't know it

sapre
10-22-2004, 10:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
Did we get one?

Also, do the Australians have their own voices? Is the "Richie Cunningham" US voice still there?

Argh! Can't wait!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I heard it, and I have to say it's not so good.
It's simply not immersive.
It sounds like the voice actor is "just reading the line".
And there are few wierd line too.
1 of them, the subtitle says "this is 3" but the voice says "this is 12".
And another 1, subtitle says "this is green 2"
but the voice says "this is green 4" and such.

NTESLA
10-22-2004, 10:32 AM
Please read some history behind the RAF Voice Pack (It's in the README file that came with it) :

"A notable feature of the RAF throughout the Second World War was how cosmopolitan it was. The upper class Englishman may be the stereotypical image of the Fighter Command pilot, but pilots from occupied Europe, from the British Empire and from the United States supplemented the English, Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh pilots of the United Kingdom."

"This voice pack seeks to represent this diversity by including Australian, Scottish, Irish, New Zealander and South African as well as English voices. It is also worth mentioning that the many Sergeant pilots, essentially those deemed not to be of €œofficer class€, were a very long way from the familiar Public School stereotype.

Opinion differs on how much slang and informality would have been used under operational circumstances over the R/T (radio telephone), but I believe that some slang would have been used €" certainly the reading I have done supports this belief. In any case, not to have included it would have been to neglect a picturesque and evocative style of speech which adds a good deal of period flavour to the radio traffic. A similar principle has been followed in the inclusion of some mild swearing, some of which users may find profane - those of a sensitive religious disposition have been warned!"

"I freely confess that research for this voicepack has not been exhaustive, and apologise in advance for any errors. Some inaccuracies are consequences of the limitations on the way Forgotten Battles handles AI Radio traffic. We have not, for instance, attempted to convert Forgotten Battle€s measurements of angle and height to RAF vectors and angels. We hope that any deviations from historical authenticity do not spoil the enjoyment of the user unduly.

The following books have directly contributed to the content of the voicepack, and all are recommended to those wishing to experience more of the voice of the RAF pilot in the Second World War.

Air Ministry, Royal Air Force Pilot€s Flying Manual (undated: immediately post war)
Burns, Michael, Bader (Arms and Armour 1990)
Deere, Al, Nine Lives (Hodder & Staughton 1959)
Dundas, Hugh, Flying Start (St. Martin€s Press 1990)
Johnson, Johnnie, Wing Leader (Chatto & Windus 1956)
Kaplan & Collier, The Few (Blandford 1989)
Partridge, Eric, A Dictionary of RAF slang (Michael Joseph 1945)
Richey, Paul, Fighter Pilot (Batsford 1941)
Wellum, Geoffrey, First Light (Viking 2002)"

Historic research has been done for the "RAF Voice Pack" so if it sound "Boring" then that is how it was, not like in Hollywood. Thanks to Mike Green (mikeyg007), Script Consultant for the "RAF Voice Pack".

Waldo.Pepper
10-22-2004, 11:43 AM
Hear hear!

Good show!

huggy87
10-22-2004, 12:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fabianfred:
beebpoop........ I bet you are an american with that stupid prejudicial attitude

no wonder the adult world is bored with everything american..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK. I challenge you never to watch an American made movie again.

DuxCorvan
10-22-2004, 12:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
I hear tell that Americans eat babies, worship the Devil AND are all prejudicial <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then I must be American! Except for eating babies... I'm not for fast food! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Snootles
10-22-2004, 12:15 PM
IBTL...

Lunix
10-22-2004, 12:21 PM
Well I heard it and the stackato nature of the Japanese language sounds pretty funny to my ears in a fighter situation.

DuxCorvan
10-22-2004, 12:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lunix:
Well I heard it and the stackato nature of the Japanese language sounds pretty funny to my ears in a fighter situation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pretty musical comparison, but it is written staccato, Lunix. I guess your own language sounds rather legato, then...

BTW: "What does the new Japanese speech sound like?"

It sounds exactly like Japanese talking... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Chuck_Older
10-22-2004, 12:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
I guess your own language sounds rather _legato_, then...

: <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It sounds like a cat? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DuxCorvan
10-22-2004, 12:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It sounds like a cat? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only if you pinch 'it' with your trousers zip... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

sukebeboy
10-22-2004, 01:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It sounds like a cat? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only if you pinch 'it' with your trousers zip... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Minna gaijin wa sugoi baka yarou!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Alec_George
10-22-2004, 03:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sukebeboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It sounds like a cat? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only if you pinch 'it' with your trousers zip... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Minna gaijin wa sugoi baka yarou!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

watashi wa nihongo o hanashimasen.watashi wa canadajin desu

JG7_Rall
10-22-2004, 03:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fabianfred:
beebpoop........ I bet you are an american with that stupid prejudicial attitude

no wonder the adult world is bored with everything american..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

American*, yes, the A is capitalized.

I bid you good day sir!

Chuck_Older
10-22-2004, 07:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sukebeboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
It sounds like a cat? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only if you pinch 'it' with your trousers zip... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Minna gaijin wa sugoi baka yarou!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't read what you said, but it's meaning is clear enough. It means you're too cowardly to just post it in English.

Alec_George
10-22-2004, 07:33 PM
He called the guy foreign fool. I took only 1 class of Japanese in high school and switched to french.

BTW: Who's flower of Scotalnd?

Captain_Avatar
10-22-2004, 07:36 PM
baka yarou = "Son of a *****" I beleive.
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"I am in fact British and, I'll hazard the judgement, rather better educated than you. After all, I am capable of using punctuation in my posts, something which they evidently omitted to teach you at St Marx's College for Left Wing Intellectuals.

Stop taking everything so seriously, you deadly earnest bore."
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God I love the Brits! True masters of the high brow insults!

Chuck_Older
10-22-2004, 08:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alec_George:
He called the guy foreign fool. I took only 1 class of Japanese in high school and switched to french.

BTW: Who's flower of Scotalnd? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, that's just from a poem.

He was called the "wee Scot" occasionally, but not the Flower of Scotland. It's just appropriate.


Jimmy Clark, two time World F1 Driving Champion, master of F1 at the time of his death in 1968, at an F2 race on the Hockenheim circuit. Some say a bird hit him in the head while at speed. Nobody really knows for certain. His car hit a tree broadside at something like 160 mph. he died instantly.

Prior to his death there were no seatbelts in F1 cars. After he died, it was apparent nobody was immune to the unexpected if Clark could die behind the wheel, and seatbelts were introduced.

Colin Chapman changed the Lotus insignia to a black motif for the season in '68 as a mark of mourning.

Up until recently, he was the driver with the best winning percentage of races in one season (he once won 7 of 10 F1 races in a season), and the driver with most first place finishes.

In 1967 at Monza, he had car trouble. They didn't pit then like they do now. A set of tires on these cars would last an entire race. Clark pitted, and when he came out of the pits, he was three laps down. Three laps down!

He un-lapped himself by passing the feild three whole times. He came in third, because as he rounded the last turn on the last lap, in first place, his car ran out of gas.

There are those who argue (me among them) that Clark was the most natural driver ever and the best driver to race F1, better than Nuvolari, Ascari, Fangio, pick your driver. The only driver he ever considered his equal was surprisingly an American: Daniel Sexton Gurney, who is also the man who introduced Chapman (founder of Lotus) and Clark to American racing by bringing them to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Clark also won there as well, in a Ford powered Lotus rear engined car, racing against a feild of front engined cars. After he won, all the cars suddenly were rear engine. He also spun at Indy twice in the same race another time and recovered both times, a feat considered impossible: If you lost it at Indy, you went into the wall. After that race, he joked about one of his sponsors, STP. he said it stood for Spinning Takes Practice. He was 32 when he died. During his era of racing, 40% of all drivers died behind the wheel.

Clark was the Master, par excellence. his mechanics siad that while his team-mates' cars, like Moises Solana and Graham Hill's cars, needed work after the race, Clark's needed a check out and routine maintenance and perhaps new tires, because he knew how hard to push the car.

Clark also introduced the four wheel drift with a 'false; early apex into turns into F1. Everyone else followed the 'slow in, fast out' method. Clark came in much faster, drifted through the turn with the car already pointing in the right direction for the nest straightaway before the turn was over, and could leave faster because his car was straight earlier than the turn would allow a car that took the tradiational approach.

He was close friends with Jackie Stewart, another famous driving Scot, and also with Stirling Moss, who was something of a tutor to Clark.

Loki-PF
10-22-2004, 10:34 PM
sukebeboy

Sore wa gaijin desu neh?

necrobaron
10-23-2004, 01:25 AM
I notice some of you are writing in Japanese using your typical 26-letter alphabet. How is this transferred from the elaborate symbols used as Japanese writing? Are you simply writing as it sounds in spoken language? I'm ignorant when it comes to Japanese language and writing, so I apologize for any incorrect terminology.

fabianfred
10-23-2004, 05:45 AM
I believe Japanese has five different alphabets, one of which is called 'Romangi' being the Roman 26 letter alphabet...

and I'm sorry for my anti-American comment earlier

DuxCorvan
10-23-2004, 05:54 AM
Yeah, I know that guy. He's the one that whined because he never flies or even tries an Allied plane. He's convinced to travel back in time and win the WW2 on his own... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

"Minna gaijin wa sugoi baka yarou!!!" -sounds like you're selling a carpet to me. I don't want, thanks. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

I don't mind what he said about me... I'm only puzzled on how he knew my parents' curricula vitarum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BTW... eres un pedazo de gilipollas y un mam³n, y tan bobo que yo no te querr*a ni para portero, zumbado. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

VMF223_Smitty
10-23-2004, 07:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fabianfred:
beebpoop........ I bet you are an american with that stupid prejudicial attitude

no wonder the adult world is bored with everything american..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Jesus on a pogo stick! I hear tell that Americans eat babies, worship the Devil AND are all prejudicial http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

You got a nice prejudicial attitude going on there, yourself, with your assumption, if you don't know it <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Good one Chuck ! Yes we do eat babies. I'm a former Marine and really enjoyed the Vietnamese variety. A little stringy, but filling.
Oh, and we don't all worship the devil. I worship Jesus on a Pogo Stick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

DuxCorvan
10-23-2004, 08:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VMF223_Smitty:
I worship Jesus on a Pogo Stick <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~cuthalu/koulu/inkvisitio/Inquisition.jpg

Mozzie_21
10-25-2004, 06:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by beepboop:
The japs do have voices now, although some of their early planes are so crude that they lack a radio, and so you don't hear any chatter. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This reminds me of an anecdote by Saburo Saki, who hacked the antena off of his zero and removed its radio because the system was so bad that it was just extra drag an weight. His squadron comander was furious with him, and demanded that he explained his actions. When Saki explained, the squadron commander just said, "please do the same to my plane" and walked off.

Philipscdrw
10-25-2004, 08:43 AM
That reminds me of the CFS2 manual, which said exactly what you just said.

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