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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:37 PM
Anybody know why is there a yoke in the P-38 instead of a flightstick?

Just a design issue, or was there another reason?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject!

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:37 PM
Anybody know why is there a yoke in the P-38 instead of a flightstick?

Just a design issue, or was there another reason?

Excuse my ignorance on the subject!

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:48 PM
Firewolf, from reading the Flight Journal special edition on the P-38 (hardly the last word on Lightning research, but not a bad start) the two reasons I remember were that:

- Lockheed was traditionally a transport plane manufacturer up to that point, and had "always done it that way."

- Given the aircraft's large roll inertia and unpowered ailerons (on the early versions), the yoke gave the pilot more leverage with two hands to roll the plane than a stick would have.

Anybody heard anything else?

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:49 PM
The cockpit is very narrow. Just a guess... maybe they felt there wasn't enough room to get leverage on a stick.

P-38 is a big twin engine plane. You're going to need a lot of muscle to get it roll. In a narrow cockpit the range of motion of a control stick is limited and it's hard to put a lot of strength into it. Look at the problems Bf-109 pilots had. With a yoke, you can use both hands.

XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:52 PM
Thanks guys, makes sense I suppose, noticed the 110 has a stick as well.

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:25 PM
Could that be the reason why hurry's and spit's hat something like a yoke on the stick also? Was it easier to push? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
Chaika-90 wrote:
- The cockpit is very narrow. Just a guess... maybe
- they felt there wasn't enough room to get leverage
- on a stick.
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- P-38 is a big twin engine plane. You're going to
- need a lot of muscle to get it roll. In a narrow
- cockpit the range of motion of a control stick is
- limited and it's hard to put a lot of strength into
- it. Look at the problems Bf-109 pilots had. With a
- yoke, you can use both hands.
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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:57 PM
You can get two hands on a stick like the 109's

Step1:Place your right hand on the stick
Step2:Place your left hand over your right hand

LOL, actually, the big problem in the 109 was stick travel distance: 4 INCHES at the top!

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:31 AM
From the books I have, it says the yoke helped the pilots put a lot more stick force into rolling and pulling out then a standard stick. This helped its roll rate at high speeds. As for the cockpit being cramped, not really. Its more roomy then the P-51 and I can personally attest to that!!!

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:46 AM
They took that feature over from the Hudson Bomber /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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