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Afromike1
11-18-2008, 08:21 PM
Its the closest late war bf109 that can be equipped without the mk108. My question what would you do, with or without? Either gain power but loose performance OR gain performance but loose power.

Although I am a fan of "hitting without being hit" it'll take a lot more than 1 strike to take down a plane. And this is crucial because the longer you take to take down a bandit the more chance a wing man will come and shoot you down first.

WTE_Galway
11-18-2008, 08:45 PM
I didn't vote because the choice offline depends entirely on the situation and I gave up the online furball stupidity 3 or 4 years back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Neither option is "better" it depends on the pilot, the target and the overall situation at hand.

PanzerAce2.0
11-18-2008, 09:05 PM
I generally go with the 20mm in the 109s, and even if I'm pulling pods with me, I prefer 20mm. Sure, they aren't as powerful, but with something like the 109, you shouldn't need howitzers.

sw25th
11-18-2008, 09:21 PM
Mk108 is good for bombers or for quick kills. its not that much heavier.

Divine-Wind
11-18-2008, 09:22 PM
I like to make things blow up, so the Mk 108. I don't care how unsporting it is. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

josephs1959
11-18-2008, 09:54 PM
Has anyone ever hit a falling pilot with the 30mm?

OHHHH Babyyyy! Splatter all over da sky LOL!

Talk about putting yourself together

Erkki_M
11-18-2008, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
I didn't vote because the choice offline depends entirely on the situation and I gave up the online furball stupidity 3 or 4 years back http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Neither option is "better" it depends on the pilot, the target and the overall situation at hand.

Whether or not your online experience is "furball stupidity" or something else, depends completely on yourself. "All Aircraft Arcade" and "Skies of Fire" are not the only servers around. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


G6/AS is usually up against Spitfire IXs, P51s and P47s. The MK108 is great against Spitties (you get to shoot from high angles) but against the Americans the 20mm is better - most times you get even close to a P51/47 and it not behind you you'll be quite far behind them. In those cases the much more accurate 20mm mg151/20 with almost 3 times the firing time of the mk108 is a much better choice, though every hit might not give you a kill; however, P51 and P47, after getting a few hits, if not going down straight away will at least lose their top speed so much that you'll be able to catch them. And neither is a serious opponent in medium to low speed maneuvering.

JtD
11-18-2008, 11:24 PM
Depends on the opposition. Usually if there is a La-7, I'll take the MK108. Against a plane that can outfight and outrun you, you'd better need only one pass.

Overall I prefer 20mm.

Freiwillige
11-19-2008, 12:07 AM
I find that I can hit much easier with the 20mm especially when you have only a passing snap shot. The Mk108 is more of a bomber buster and fires too slowly for anything other than a dead 6 shot or a lucky angles shot. So with that being said against fighters 20mm anyday and trust me 20mm sould be more than enough, against the American heavies like the B-17 I will take the 30mm.

M_Gunz
11-19-2008, 01:43 AM
151/20 has over 50% higher muzzle velocity and IIRC (reasonably sure) a higher ROF as well
as more ammo. It's not got the wrecking ball punch of the 108, just more likely to hit and
better at that as range increases, target has to jink faster to avoid them.

general_kalle
11-19-2008, 02:40 AM
20mm anyday. i dont like the mk108, i never can hit with it, velocity is way to low for me if you make a high speed pass you have to aim it like a mortar to hit something.

so favorite gun + better performance....without mk108 anyday.

DKoor
11-19-2008, 05:14 AM
Use your Mk108.
You gonna need it to bring down Tanktest, P-47 etc.

zardozid
11-19-2008, 08:49 AM
I only use the 30mil against the bombers...

Under almost all circumstances I will go with the 20mil's.

ANOTHER "more"(?) interesting question would be: Do you fly with 20mil pods or not????

What do you think? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif