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DxyFlyr
08-07-2006, 02:07 PM
The weather is great today. I was thinking it's time to dust off the Ol' Grumman. I'd love to share the ride, so the first IL2 devotee who can make it to Jackson, MS will get a free ride (assuming weather conditions are appropriate).

Oh, you must also ID the craft.

Here's a pic. The first and only hint...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/DxyFlyr/GRUMMAN.jpg

russ.nl
08-07-2006, 02:10 PM
Great initiative http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif Salute http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

edgflyer
08-07-2006, 02:23 PM
I going to guess Grumman XTSF

Crash_Moses
08-07-2006, 02:44 PM
No way! It's not even patented yet...

Stackhouse25th
08-07-2006, 02:51 PM
its probably a TBF/TBM-3e, although it could be a Mallard or a Widgeon, although I doubt its the amphibs.

TBF's have been sold frequently and quite a few are still airworthy, so thats my best guess.

VMF-214_HaVoK
08-07-2006, 03:01 PM
Notice how he says the word "ride" not fly and how he uses "craft" instead of aircraft. Hmm, its probably a old tractor or something. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Stackhouse25th
08-07-2006, 03:03 PM
notice how the plate says 'aircraft' on it...

Taylortony
08-07-2006, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Stackhouse25th:
notice how the plate says 'aircraft' on it...


Well wheelbarrow wouldn't be much good, would it......

SPLASH_1
08-07-2006, 03:06 PM
It`s a Canoe

NAFP_supah
08-07-2006, 03:09 PM
And then we discovered grumman AC Corp made mopeds too? :| Would be a fun joke!

Taylortony
08-07-2006, 03:13 PM
Interestingly enough when in the UK I punch this into Google

2721A 3 15 patent

it comes up with the first item as


Motorized vibrator with reciprocating motion - Patent 48279143. The vibrator of claim 2 wherein the center of gravity of the idler is eccentric ... available under the tradename TR-2721A from KK ADVANTEST) was used. ...
www.freepatentsonline.com/4827914.html (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4827914.html) - 47k - Cached - Similar pages


No lie............ so at that point it just leaves me to wish the happy winner a satifying ride.................... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Stackhouse25th
08-07-2006, 03:16 PM
its a serial #, possibly attached to a part of the airframe, but ive not seen a serial # like that so it could be the engine serial, or another part.. the rivets are too close together, which means its a supporting structure. the metal is aluminum.

thats all i got

DxyFlyr
08-07-2006, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by SPLASH_1:
It`s a Canoe

BINGO!

SPLASH_1, you're welcome to bring a paddle, but I did offer a "ride" so just fishing tackle would do. I'm thinking this Saturday. We'll have to fish a little deep as it's been kinda warm here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sorry for the April 1st type post. I thought someone would call me on it much sooner. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My grandfather bought our grumman in the early fifties before they moved the boat division to Marathon, NY. I noticed the maker's plate the other day when me and #1 son were out on the river.

Here's the story on the grumman canoe...

Grumman Canoe History (http://www.newsday.com/community/guide/lihistory/ny-past516,0,5473146.story?coll=ny-lihistory-navigation)

DxyFlyr
08-07-2006, 03:19 PM
LOL classic



Originally posted by Taylortony:
Interestingly enough when in the UK I punch this into Google

2721A 3 15 patent

it comes up with the first item as


Motorized vibrator with reciprocating motion - Patent 48279143. The vibrator of claim 2 wherein the center of gravity of the idler is eccentric ... available under the tradename TR-2721A from KK ADVANTEST) was used. ...
www.freepatentsonline.com/4827914.html (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4827914.html) - 47k - Cached - Similar pages


No lie............ so at that point it just leaves me to wish the happy winner a satifying ride.................... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

SPLASH_1
08-07-2006, 03:24 PM
Love too but i live in the uk
One request can we see the whole thing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Stackhouse25th
08-07-2006, 03:24 PM
nice

DxyFlyr
08-07-2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by SPLASH_1:
Love too but i live in the uk
One request can we see the whole thing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

I've got a bunch of pics "from" it but not many "of" it. I'll have to take one tonight when I get home. It's got some battle damage, but otherwise is a handsome boat. It has served well for over 50 years.

WWMaxGunz
08-07-2006, 03:55 PM
I learned canoeing in Grumman 17' flat-bottoms. Those things can really take punishment!
60+ scouts playing canoe tag, year after year and no bent canoes....

Ahhh, I like Old Town's better! J/K, but they do weigh less!

DxyFlyr
08-07-2006, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
I learned canoeing in Grumman 17' flat-bottoms. Those things can really take punishment!
60+ scouts playing canoe tag, year after year and no bent canoes....

Ahhh, I like Old Town's better! J/K, but they do weigh less!



Well, no one can say Grumman wasn't consitent in their design philosophy. This canoe is slow and heavy, but reliable as the day is long.

It's done the Buffalo river in Arkansas 3 or 4 times, the Nantahala in North Carolina once and innumerable hours logged in the bayous of central Louisiana. Lately, we're logging the hours in the Mississippi bywaters.

Old Town is a good canoe, but I couldn't give up the family beater. Besides, multi laminates are for kids. Aluminum is where it's at. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Crash_Moses
08-07-2006, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by DxyFlyr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SPLASH_1:
It`s a Canoe

BINGO!

SPLASH_1, you're welcome to bring a paddle, but I did offer a "ride" so just fishing tackle would do. I'm thinking this Saturday. We'll have to fish a little deep as it's been kinda warm here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sorry for the April 1st type post. I thought someone would call me on it much sooner. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My grandfather bought our grumman in the early fifties before they moved the boat division to Marathon, NY. I noticed the maker's plate the other day when me and #1 son were out on the river.

Here's the story on the grumman canoe...

Grumman Canoe History (http://www.newsday.com/community/guide/lihistory/ny-past516,0,5473146.story?coll=ny-lihistory-navigation) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifAnd I even downloaded the Aircraft Registry Database from the FAA website (31Mb).

Couldn't find that dang serial number nowheres. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

slo_1_2_3
08-07-2006, 05:06 PM
HEhe I like canoe's I was justt on a canoe trip last weekend adnd yer right about scout and canoe tag I must took out everyone of us there , yes it was a scout trip,,but we had some nice canoes and some pretty horrible ones a few full of welds and rubber sealant stuff big ones little ones all kinds of stuff ,anyway if your board why don't you go play in the canoe? butt load of fun waiting for ya in it

BoCfuss
08-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Grumman also makes a lot of the FedEx Ground delivery vans/trucks. The larger ones with Green Ex on them.

DxyFlyr
08-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Hehe... sorry Moses



Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DxyFlyr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SPLASH_1:
It`s a Canoe

BINGO!

SPLASH_1, you're welcome to bring a paddle, but I did offer a "ride" so just fishing tackle would do. I'm thinking this Saturday. We'll have to fish a little deep as it's been kinda warm here. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Sorry for the April 1st type post. I thought someone would call me on it much sooner. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

My grandfather bought our grumman in the early fifties before they moved the boat division to Marathon, NY. I noticed the maker's plate the other day when me and #1 son were out on the river.

Here's the story on the grumman canoe...

Grumman Canoe History (http://www.newsday.com/community/guide/lihistory/ny-past516,0,5473146.story?coll=ny-lihistory-navigation) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifAnd I even downloaded the Aircraft Registry Database from the FAA website (31Mb).

Couldn't find that dang serial number nowheres. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DxyFlyr
08-07-2006, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by SPLASH_1:
Love too but i live in the uk
One request can we see the whole thing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif


Well, a little blurry, but you get the idea

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/DxyFlyr/01_Grumman.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/DxyFlyr/00_Grumman.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/DxyFlyr/02_Grumman.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/DxyFlyr/03_Grumman.jpg

slipBall
08-07-2006, 06:12 PM
cool, we have one of their 12 foot row boats, I live near the old Grumman base. What river do you conoe on, have fun

stanford-ukded
08-07-2006, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Stackhouse25th:
its a serial #, possibly attached to a part of the airframe, but ive not seen a serial # like that so it could be the engine serial, or another part.. the rivets are too close together, which means its a supporting structure. the metal is aluminum.

thats all i got


The metal is aluminium actually.

That was lame. Sorry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Feathered_IV
08-07-2006, 07:58 PM
Flying Boat?

XyZspineZyX
08-07-2006, 08:28 PM
So it really was a canoe? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

WWMaxGunz
08-07-2006, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by DxyFlyr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
I learned canoeing in Grumman 17' flat-bottoms. Those things can really take punishment!
60+ scouts playing canoe tag, year after year and no bent canoes....

Ahhh, I like Old Town's better! J/K, but they do weigh less!



Well, no one can say Grumman wasn't consitent in their design philosophy. This canoe is slow and heavy, but reliable as the day is long.

It's done the Buffalo river in Arkansas 3 or 4 times, the Nantahala in North Carolina once and innumerable hours logged in the bayous of central Louisiana. Lately, we're logging the hours in the Mississippi bywaters.

Old Town is a good canoe, but I couldn't give up the family beater. Besides, multi laminates are for kids. Aluminum is where it's at. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh the Grummans are tough and real gems you never wanna give up! And the wide flat bottom
makes em hard to flip. That keel ridge helps keep em straight is why they turn the way
they do. Canvas and glass can weight more, depends on who does the job and how many
patches perhaps. I know with kids I'd rather have the Grumman! Dad had an Old Town but
he was raised with round bottom canoes and near died in one when Mum flipped it one night
with a quick arm reach and he got trapped underneath as it was headed upside-down for the
falls. Grand Falls in Canada is like 400 ft down to rocks. She was raised on a farm but
no experience in boats plus heavy handed with most things. Drove the tractor one time only,
missed a turn and you can't run a tractor wheel over the cesspool. Took a tractor plus the
horses to get it back out. Pop was the opposite, he'd stand and pole a round bottom up
stream as far as he needed no problem, his old man made him do that while he drank beer
and put muscles on his boy.

Hey that Grumman is perfect for gunnel-pumping! You wanna go fast on flat water with no
motor then you get someone show you how to do that! It's da schnize!

PF_Coastie
08-08-2006, 05:13 AM
So this is where Oleg got the flight models for our planes in game! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

DxyFlyr
08-08-2006, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by slipBall:
cool, we have one of their 12 foot row boats, I live near the old Grumman base. What river do you conoe on, have fun


The last time we got it wet was a couple weeks ago in the mighty Pearl River right here in town. It's an agonizingly slow and muddy mess of a waterway. It's like canoeing on syrup. But we did get to toss a few rocks at an alligator or two. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

DxyFlyr
08-08-2006, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DxyFlyr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
I learned canoeing in Grumman 17' flat-bottoms. Those things can really take punishment!
60+ scouts playing canoe tag, year after year and no bent canoes....

Ahhh, I like Old Town's better! J/K, but they do weigh less!



Well, no one can say Grumman wasn't consitent in their design philosophy. This canoe is slow and heavy, but reliable as the day is long.

It's done the Buffalo river in Arkansas 3 or 4 times, the Nantahala in North Carolina once and innumerable hours logged in the bayous of central Louisiana. Lately, we're logging the hours in the Mississippi bywaters.

Old Town is a good canoe, but I couldn't give up the family beater. Besides, multi laminates are for kids. Aluminum is where it's at. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh the Grummans are tough and real gems you never wanna give up! And the wide flat bottom
makes em hard to flip. That keel ridge helps keep em straight is why they turn the way
they do. Canvas and glass can weight more, depends on who does the job and how many
patches perhaps. I know with kids I'd rather have the Grumman! Dad had an Old Town but
he was raised with round bottom canoes and near died in one when Mum flipped it one night
with a quick arm reach and he got trapped underneath as it was headed upside-down for the
falls. Grand Falls in Canada is like 400 ft down to rocks. She was raised on a farm but
no experience in boats plus heavy handed with most things. Drove the tractor one time only,
missed a turn and you can't run a tractor wheel over the cesspool. Took a tractor plus the
horses to get it back out. Pop was the opposite, he'd stand and pole a round bottom up
stream as far as he needed no problem, his old man made him do that while he drank beer
and put muscles on his boy.

Hey that Grumman is perfect for gunnel-pumping! You wanna go fast on flat water with no
motor then you get someone show you how to do that! It's da schnize! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



We don't see too many 400' falls around here. We've got to travel to see white water. Might hit the smokies this fall. Not sure if I'll take the canoe with us, though. It's easier to rent than drag that 17 footer around. Strapped on the roof of my car at 70mph there's the real chance that grumman could fly.

Didn't know it had a name, but I've gunnel pumped before. Give me a paddle anyday. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WWMaxGunz
08-08-2006, 09:56 PM
Our instructor had the canoe just about flying, bouncing along so fast it shot white water
on every downstroke. None of us kids were big enough to straddle the gunnels properly and
would have gotten hurt. We had good instructors though. Same two weeks we had a real Navy
rowing instructor. It was a good start on the road to doing things right. I had paddled
before then but lousy and rowed off and on since I was little but... never feathered the
oars for a start which gets me to people who pin the oars in rowboats even though they live
or at least have places on seacoasts where people oughtta know better! Two weeks with that
Navy instructor and I could scull as fast as I had used to row. Boy did he useta yell a lot!

I really do miss mucking around in boats. Last time was the late 80's and then is when I
had to deal with pinned oars on a windy day in an ocean harbor with 2 foot waves. @#$%!