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PLANEMAD
06-27-2006, 08:41 AM
what gunsight is in the p 47s n3? n9? k14? i love this sim but i think this is the worst gunsight/cockpit in the sim! please oleg can it be fixed in the next update.

PLANEMAD
06-27-2006, 08:41 AM
what gunsight is in the p 47s n3? n9? k14? i love this sim but i think this is the worst gunsight/cockpit in the sim! please oleg can it be fixed in the next update.

Capt.LoneRanger
06-27-2006, 09:26 AM
Yes, you are absolutely right. Now get back into the line. Thanks.

JaVA_Zeehond
06-27-2006, 09:40 AM
Probably a shift+F1 issue or was it ctrl+F1 don't know for sure. just try this when your in a jug or german plane. otherwise I wouldn't know what's wrong with the gunsight.

Chuck_Older
06-27-2006, 09:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PLANEMAD:
what gunsight is in the p 47s n3? n9? k14? i love this sim but i think this is the worst gunsight/cockpit in the sim! please oleg can it be fixed in the next update. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When the P-47 debuted in the sim, the cockpit was OK. That was a long time ago. Without that cockpit, the P-47 would be unflyble, end of story

The P-47 cockpit will NOT be updated. This has been asked and addressed many times. There is simply no time allocated for this. The new sim is aking any time available for issues like this. This has been requested many many many times

If you can make a better cockpit, by all means make one, polish it up, and submit it

PS

you don't need to use gunsight view (shift+F1)as in German aircraft, in the P-47. It's not going to "fix" your problem

F19_Ob
06-27-2006, 12:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PLANEMAD:
what gunsight is in the p 47s n3? n9? k14? i love this sim but i think this is the worst gunsight/cockpit in the sim! please oleg can it be fixed in the next update. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Apparently you missed some planes during your trialperiod m8.
See il-2's and most bombers first, then biplanes and so on.
Ok the early p47 suck a bit but then a victory tastes better when fighting from a disadvantage. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Many planes have viewproblems of some sort, but so far no cockpit have been changed although the discussions started in the early days.

Some of the view-issues can absolutely be fixed fairly easy by allowing moval of viewpoint forward or backward a bit, wich already is present in some planes through the shift+F1 view.
Unfortunately the shift+F1 view is different in many planes but no one seems to know why.
I posted the above suggestions, info and examples to Oleg many years ago.
I especially explained that the gain would be greatest in bombers wich usually have very restricted view.
In some planes the shift+F1 is a good workaraound of the problem of seeing past cockpit-bars so I urged that this should be explored more. It should ofcourse be same for all planes.

Hereby I may 'guess' that your plea is hopeless. No harm in trying though.

Diablo310th
06-27-2006, 01:06 PM
The modeller for the Jug cockpit has offered several times to Oleg to update and fix the cockpit. In fact there were several problems such as the red seat and texture behind the seat that JHat offered to fix that too. Oleg has turned down all these offers. We should thank JHat for at least giving us a cockpit for it.

Kocur_
06-27-2006, 01:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PLANEMAD:
what gunsight is in the p 47s n3? n9? k14? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

US Navy's Mk.VIII.

Jungmann
06-27-2006, 01:20 PM
Agree on the sketchy cockpit, but I can live (and die) with it.

The gunsight in all P-47 marks in the game is the USB Mark 8, I believe, the standard WWII Navy reflector sight, the same sight on the F4F, F6F, and F4U in the game. These were used for D models all through 1944 and into 45. The P-47s used a grab-bag of gunsights; somebody handier at throwing up a collection of cockpit shots can show the standard British Mark II reflector on -C and early -D models, then the Mark 8 very often, and in '45 (months after they were issued to the P-51s), the Mark 14 computing sight. Why they switched from the Mark II to the Mark 8 beats me--the American sight was pretty much a rip-off of the British model, and no real improvement (except for the handy turn and ball below the reflector). Maybe "Buy American."

Cheers,

Platypus_1.JaVA
06-27-2006, 02:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JaVA_Zeehond:
Probably a shift+F1 issue or was it ctrl+F1 don't know for sure. just try this when your in a jug or german plane. otherwise I wouldn't know what's wrong with the gunsight. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

CTRL+E helps to get rid of gunsight problems too! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

F19_Ob
06-28-2006, 05:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Diablo310th:
The modeller for the Jug cockpit has offered several times to Oleg to update and fix the cockpit. In fact there were several problems such as the red seat and texture behind the seat that JHat offered to fix that too. Oleg has turned down all these offers. We should thank JHat for at least giving us a cockpit for it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes absolutely.
I can't think anyone ment the cockpit was badly modelled, just that the view was restricted, wich is the case with many planes.
These problems can be fixed satisfactory by allowing a couple or three viewpoints.
This alows maximal view wich this sim is able to the sides, front and rear.
One example is the shift+F1 view in the Pe-2 wich alows the pilot to see better.
Me 262 is another.
All planes could have this type of view.
Even 3 viewpoints is possible like in bombers.

regards

regards

Herr_Falke
06-28-2006, 09:58 AM
The P-47 cockpit is due to be fixed right after the Fw190's.

Hurri-Khan
06-28-2006, 10:59 AM
P.11c has the worst cockpit, not P-47.. be sure^tm http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


&gt;&gt;&gt;-H-K---&gt;

joeap
06-28-2006, 11:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Herr_Falke:
The P-47 cockpit is due to be fixed right after the Fw190's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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