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Bo_Nidle
10-15-2008, 10:12 AM
For me it was the demo that came free with "PC Zone" magazine in the UK in 2001. All I had played to that point was CFS 1 & 2.

When I saw the graphics and experienced the flight modeling I was unbelievably impressed but what "sold me" was when my wingman flew too close to me and took off my P-39's vertical stabiliser without the whole aircraft exploding as in other sims. I got it home but it was a struggle and that added tension brought the whole thing to life! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Consequently I got IL2 from the Mrs for Xmas 2001. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

Since then the sim has remained on my subsequent PC's on a continual basis in its various incarnations and 8 years later I still play on it just about everyday. I can think of no other PC game that I can say that about. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif

So how were you drawn into the virtual skies of WW2? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

JtD
10-15-2008, 10:16 AM
I, too, played the demo in 2001 after a friend of mine convinced me there was a good flight simulation game and I bought it because it was the first one to cover the eastern front - and it was good.

Urufu_Shinjiro
10-15-2008, 10:23 AM
I was playing CFS 1 and had just completed basic flight school at Joint-ops and at that time several of them were trying out this new sim called Il2:Forgotten Battles, they started running an unofficial co-op night and I kept hearing how good it was, so I tried the demo and didn't care for it at first (it was so different) but after some time I tried it again and liked it so I bought the whole gettup (this was just after pacific fighters came out). Never played CFS1 again....

TheFamilyMan
10-15-2008, 10:36 AM
In early 2006 I picked up a copy of "The Ultimate Flight Collection", mainly for 'Pacific Fighters' after reading so many online post about this 'IL-2' combat flight sim and how it's the best ever. I have to say that 'PF' blew my mind (and eventally my wallet too): I then turned-on my online gaming buddies to 'Pacific Fighters' and there was no looking back to all the lame FPS games we left behind. Nowadays we all run well modded copies of 1946.

buglord
10-15-2008, 10:38 AM
Very similar to you bo_nidle got the demo out of some mag in 2001 and my then girlfriend bought it me for xmas 2001 i had only played cfs1 and il2 just blew me away. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Stew278
10-15-2008, 10:47 AM
I played the demo back in 2001. What 'sold' me on it was that it was a good game. At that time the main WWII air combat game I was playing was European Air War, and IL-2 is a much better game in almost every respect. WWII flight sims have been my favorite genre going back to the TFH:BoB/ SWOTL days. IL-2 was the latest and greatest game to the WWII air combat scene, so of course I had to get it.

jarink
10-15-2008, 10:51 AM
I remember trying the original demo, but I had some joystick problems back then that pretty much precluded me from playing anything with a stick. It wasn't until I bought Pacific Fighters with a Best Buy gift card I received for Christmas a few years ago that I really 'discovered' this game. Not one month after that purchase, I was hunting down copies of FB and the AEP to do a merged install!

What sold me on it? Several things. The size of the planeset, FM and DM were contributing factors, but I'd have to say the community here (which I only found after looking for help for the ol' "CD not found" error) was the biggest draw.

b2spirita
10-15-2008, 11:02 AM
I flew CFS 1+2, then after a couple of years of not playing, decided to get back into it when is saw and IL2 AEP for 3 quid at a bootsale.

Mr_Zooly
10-15-2008, 11:02 AM
what first sold the game for me was the first video clip, there was nothing that came near as far as the graphics were concerned. Then came the demo with the P39 and 109g6(or was it the AS model?) I was blown away and the wait for the full game seemed like eternity.
I have recently watched a clip of a lengthy clip of Oleg talking about SoW BoB and i'm getting that giddy feeling all over again http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

ElAurens
10-15-2008, 11:11 AM
I had tossed CFS2 in the dust bin after a couple of weeks in the fall of 2001. I figured if Microsoft could not make a good flight sim no one could, I told myself I was finished with virtual flying.

Then the day after Christmas I was walking through the video game titles isle at Wal Mart of all places, when I saw an IL2 on the cover of a box. Now I knew I was the only person within 25 miles that had ever heard of an IL2 so out of curiosity I picked up the game. And the rest is history.

Vipez-
10-15-2008, 11:22 AM
I started with the demo as well. 2001. Those were the days my friend (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm0iQz24Aac) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Rjel
10-15-2008, 11:25 AM
I had a friend who was a Beta tester for the original IL2. Even though she couldn't disclose much in the way of details, what she could talk about sold me. Downloading the original "leaked" demo the day it popped up on the web was just icing on the cake for me.

K_Freddie
10-15-2008, 11:27 AM
There another topic like this buried in the forum ... somewhere.

I'd being doing Dynamix's sims for yonks - refused to do MSofts coz of the extreme price tag. So was browsing the shops and saw this wierd Russian plane on the cover of a CD Box.
It's distinctive shape, I could remember from a brief 5 sec clip from the volumes of World At War series - A flight sim tooo. Who was 1C and Oleg Maddox ???. Price is good so I bought it for fun. I had a powerful PC and a 4MB ATI graphics card, so I thought. The year 2001.

Installed it.. Hah it has demos... I'll start there. Run demo... wait wait Sturmovik appears. 4 seconds later = 1 frame.. plane moves, another 5 seconds... plane moves again..... WHOOOOOAAAAAA - WHAT IS THIS. uninstall.. throw the disk and box into the corner - go back to Dynamix.

6 months later my Gcard broke so I got a new one with 64MB VRam. Same PC... curiousity got the better of me - Reinstalled IL2...Whammo I've never looked back, then realising that I need good graphics cards to run good games.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
edt: The funny thing is that Msofts sim prices have all been around the R500 mark down here - I think they upped the price coz of the name brand. Yet next to these incredibly big MSoft boxes, there was an unknown small DVD disk with a Russian plane on it going at R200. Unknown to the moronic shop owners (which is good), they had a 'gold mine' in a smaller box at a cheaper price. That little DVD box was SOOOOO much bigger than that empty MSoft box

PhantomKira
10-15-2008, 11:37 AM
Flew CFS 1 & 2. Liked CFS 2, but when my room mate bought CFS 3, I balked. What a pile of junk that was. No more Microsoft, but being a WW2 & flight fan, I was looking. Found the origional IL2 in 2001 (I think), liked the graphics so I gave it a try. Discovered damage models and that hooked me. PF really got me into it, after buying every upgrade along the way.

SeaFireLIV
10-15-2008, 11:38 AM
I remember seeing it on display several times in the PC games stores during the period of 2002/3.

I kept ignoring it because I didn`t know what an IL2 sturmovik was (couldn`t even spell the word then) and it was made by Russians/East europeans. My Western prejudice made me think that it would be rubbish. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Then when I applied to join a Squad that flew European Air War, they told me that they never flew that any more and they recommened IL2 if my system could handle it. Reluctantly I bought it and installed...

First thing that got me was the graphics of the intro. The aircraft were fully 3D, even the pilots and the wheels actually rolled on take off, slowly stopping after take off! It seems small, but I`d never seen such attention to detail. I was impressed by the Stukas as they attacked a Russian target.

Then I started my first mission and on takeoff heard sirens wailing in my ears! wow! I`ve always hated the fact that you never had air raid sirens on the airfield when under potential attack, even EAW never had it. This had always bugged me.

And then the whole Eastern Front war became like a complete new 2nd World War experience from me. I was not only hooked, but learned a lot since then about that war and how aircraft should fly.

It`s the longest running game ever on my PC too. Amazing.

DrHerb
10-15-2008, 11:52 AM
I used to fly Jane's wwII fighters and Red Baron 3d online and offline. I saw a review in PC Gamer on IL2 Sturmovik. They gave it a really good score, so I hunted everywhere in town till I could find it. Never looked back ever since.

Blood_Splat
10-15-2008, 12:06 PM
I discovered it at the bombs away forum for B 17 II. Someone posted a video of the sturmovik attacking a tank. Man that was many moons ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Woke_Up_Dead
10-15-2008, 12:24 PM
Just like someone above, I liked the fact that a well-reviewed sim was made based on a plane that only I knew about, set in a conflict that is largely ignored in the west. It looked different, none of the same old BF-109 vs Spitfire and P-51 that the covers of all the other WWII flight sims had.

thefruitbat
10-15-2008, 12:54 PM
I was in a pc world, just looking really, after having got a new comp, an athalon 1900 with a geforce 3 titanium 500, which was the mutts nutts then, from a pentium 400/450ish. All i'd been playing was medal of honour, and was just looking to see what else was around.

The last WWII air sim game i'd enjoyed was back on an atari st, battle of britain, by lucasarts. i'd tried 1942? and just didn't like it, and to be honest, since tiefighter, which was the reason i bought my first pc, a dx 66, and was i proud, come on, it had a voodo3? card in it to, plus an awe 32!!. Anyway from then on xwing v tie, and finally x wing alliance were my 'cockpit sim fix'

Anyway, of all things it was the box of the original il2 that sold me.

I picked it up, and there are 4 pics on the back, a 109 chasing something down, a ju88 with smoke trails from a plane to its right, a he111 with its left engine on fire, and a 109 flying low over a city.

Of all of them, it was probally the 109 over the city that sold it to me, i just didn't expect the game to look that good. It did, and while i can't claim to be in from the demo, i do remember the first patch being released, and what a unexpected joyous suprise that was, as was every other to this day, save 4.02, which if i'd of been a girl, would of made me cry. For weeks.

When i first bought il2, if somebody had shown me a screenshot of what say il2 1946 modded would look like, 7 years down the line, i quite simpely wouldn't of believed it.

SoW looks amazing already, 7 years down the line.....

cheers,

fruitbat

PS, i wish i'd found here (ubi forums) earlier, instead of whatever my reg date is, because i have learned a great deal here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif.

Other than red and blue being important in some way?

I also wish i'd not played on arcade settings/cockpit off as i did to start with. For the first year (2 maybe) that i played this game, i played it acrade, xwing style, missing the depth of it completely.

Dance
10-15-2008, 12:55 PM
Same demo on the mag as Bo after somebody told me about it, got the full version some months later. EAW and SDOE before that as far as getting totally involved. Numerous other titles, but those two + IL2 were my only biggies combat sim wise.

IL2, immersion was what sold me.

JG52Uther
10-15-2008, 01:03 PM
It was so long ago I actually cannot remember!
Its cost me a flippin' fortune since then though!

leitmotiv
10-15-2008, 01:36 PM
The screenshots on the Gamespot site got me interested. I was more interested in the Pacific War and thought CFS2 would be more up my alley. I originally imagined IL-2 would be a novelty. But, after I bought my game computer, and tried many flight sims, old and new, I soon realized IL-2 was incomparable. 2004-6 Practically all I used was IL-2

Box-weasel
10-15-2008, 02:09 PM
My dog told me that he liked the way the water looked.

stalkervision
10-15-2008, 02:20 PM
The original worked quite well on my last old crummy computer,unlike other flight sims, that's why. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Chris0382
10-15-2008, 02:25 PM
After playing BF-1942, I wanted something better so I searched and IL-2 came up as a good flight sim on a review someplace.

Swivet
10-15-2008, 02:36 PM
Good question:

I played Microprose Fighter Squadron for a cpl years and was always looking around for a better looking sim. The IL2 demo came along, and quite frankly, i didn't like it. Then the original IL2 came out. I toyed with it, loved the graphics, but my machine could barely handle it. Plus i wasn't thrilled on the lack of american planes. But i knew that the sim would eventually progress. I lurked these forums for 2 years, hoping to get more info and learn of the bugs from users etc. Finally i think it was Pacific Fighter that got me hooked since US planes were then introduced and by then i had a better rig to run it..Now i'm addicted http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

FoolTrottel
10-15-2008, 02:52 PM
Had lotsa fun with lotsa combat flight sims/games, like Red Baron, Chuck Yeager, Wings Of Glory, Dawn Patrol, Fighter Duel, Flying Corps (this one inspired me to build my first pedals http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif), Flying Corps Gold, cfs 1 and 2, swotl and whatnot... then read an announcement of IL2 in a magazine, saw it in a shop some months later... bought it. ... cfs3 came along too... but then FB came along and....

rileyjams
10-15-2008, 03:12 PM
I was craving a good flying game and my pops refered me to it after a friend at his work mentioned it

Bearcat99
10-15-2008, 03:54 PM
I was flying CFS1 in 2001... I had fiddled with a few things before that.. but CFS1 was the first online experience and it was the first WWII flight sim with any real opposition, live or AI that I flew. Back then I was running a PII with 512M of RAM in it and a 16M video card.. Needless to say... on many maps in CFS1 particularly that high altitude P-47 bomber escort mission the sim would choke.. That was when I began to look at system specs because it never really occured to me before.. I saw IL2 but when I saw the system requirements I didn't think my PC could handle it.. so I didnt even bother with it.. plus I saw that it had no Mustangs... no Corsairs.. I didnt realize yet that it wasnt the average flight sim. I stayed with CFS1 for @ a year or so... in that time I upgraded my video card 2 times to a 32M card and a 64M card with 768M of RAM.. When I heard that CFS3 was coming out I knew my PC couldn't handle it.. so I upgraded to an XP1600 on a R9000 Pro 128.. with 512M of 133 RAM.. While I was headed to the Woodbridge Va. Best Buy one night checking to see if CFS3 had come in.. I ran into a guy in the parking lot named Phil (Never saw him again.. ) who said that he already had it.. and it was not that good..(I didn't know about piracy at all... ) but he did say that IL2 was a good sim and he told me about here and Hyperlobby... I had heard from another guy that flew in CFS with us a few nights that IL2 was a good sim too.. I went into BB and looked at the box .... I thought Hmmmm I can run this now since I upgraded.. what the heck.. I'll try it.. I bought it, took it home, installed it booted it up, and .. it was definitely different.. but that first night was short.. I was only fiddling with it.. over the next 2 or 3 nights I got more into the sim and was floored.. There were so many ooooo Ahhhhh Woooooooooooww moments .... and I knew pretty early on after returning to CFS1 with my squad that my time in CFS was short.. very short.. I told everyone about it and only one guy came over then.. although all of them are here now...

What sold me? The graphics and sound were unlike anything I ever experienced. The track record feature.. I was watching one of the stock P-39 tracks.. the one where the flak blew out the wheel from the wheel well.... The views... I was out of the pit one day looking at the plane and accidentally hit my mouse.. WTH!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif I tried to move the image and L clicked .. WTH!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

The centrigugal force keeping you from bailing out.. in the P-39 in particular.. One day I was in a QM and I crash landed. My wife called me for something.. I just got up and went and left the sim on.. When I left it on it was daytime... when I came back a few hours later it was night...

I flew in CFS1 a handfull of times after that.. and each time I was a killer.. CFS1 was a toy compared to IL2..

That's it... I have been here ever since..

Stiletto-
10-15-2008, 05:08 PM
Similar to many, saw previews of the game on the net and in PC Gamer back in probably spring of 2001, when only the IL-2 was planned to be flyable (can you imagine that! That plane gets really dusty these days!). Looked decent and I thought about how I haven't played a WWII sim since Janes WWII Fighters, and before that Wings of Glory and all the Dynamix stuff. I kept my eye on it's progess and said it's time for a new WWII combat flight sim if it's any good. Got the demo in fall of 01 and instantaneously after taking off, knew I had to get the full version. The P-39 and MiG-3 took almost the whole runway to take off, you had to trick and coax your plane into doing the maneuvers you wanted it to do. I simply enojed the depth and the workload put on the pilot, the realism plus immesive visuals are what did it for me,bought it in December of '01 and that was that.

waffen-79
10-15-2008, 05:30 PM
ok, late 2001
Carlos a very good friend of mine, if not the best, while having a LAN party playing Medal of Honor said to me, "Hey I bought this game, but is nothing like CFS, too difficult to take off, let alone hit anything" and I was..."go on..." and he continued "tis called Sturmovik, since you love ww2 aerial stuff you're going to like it... I also have this other game, supposed to be a FPS but it feels too slow, it's called Op Flashpoint, anyway you want them?" I replyed "yeah but, how much?" then he said "nah, it's nothing, we're mates don't we?, besides, I'm not playing them, but tell you what, the beers tonight are on you!"

Years later he ALSO introduced me to this girl, a beautiful Dentist, the best moments of my life so far

I salute you mate!

Skoshi Tiger
10-15-2008, 06:41 PM
I tried the demo when it came out but unfortunately my PC at the time just wasn't good enough to do it justice so I forgot about IL2 and was flying things like Janes WWII Fighters, B17-II, Janes F/A-18 and Longbow II.

The Pacific fighters came out and I was hooked after my first take of at Port Morseby.

T_O_A_D
10-15-2008, 06:55 PM
The Demo late summer early fall before the main release, then rain drops on the windshield of the P-39 and the fact I couldn't take it off the first time I tried.

Within minutes I gave up my addiction to CFS1.

MB_Avro_UK
10-15-2008, 06:56 PM
Hi all,

I was searching through the pockets of a dead victim. The body was still warm but somehow I sensed goodies!

It was Christmas 2001. Back at my basement, I loaded up the Demo. I heard police sirens but I was transfixed by the graphics...

The Police Squad Car Crew smashed down my door and saw me crouched, trying to fly a P-39 in a Russian storm..

Silently,they sat down beside me and watched in awe!

That was the turning point for all of us!

We are all now MB guys!

Amazing Sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Ernst_Rohr
10-15-2008, 08:03 PM
My background was Dynamix sims, Aces, RB, Aces of the Deep. My first exposure to IL 2 was looking for ANYTHING to keep me slightly less that stark raving mad from boredom after having been laid off just prior to 9/11.

Having no work (or any remote possibilities) and watching my savings dwindle, I couldn't blow money on new games. Saw IL-2 written up in a game mag, and it just so happened one of the local game shops was still taking PC games on trade in at the time.

Dumped all my old games, and got a nice shiny new copy of IL-2.

I remember loading that sucker up, firing up the sim, and realizing that I suddenly seemed to have lost ALL my dogfighting "skills" from the previous generation of sims. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Spend many many weeks (months) getting up to speed as a dedicated ground attack jock, while vainly attempting to get back into the fighter saddle.

Been playing ever since. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

knightflyte
10-15-2008, 10:16 PM
I got my first PC in spring 2002. One of the first things I did was buy MSFS2002, and CFS2. I enjoyed them for a period, but was never quite enamoured with them. The envorons of MSFS were spartan to me and didn't keep me engrossed with it for long, plus I wanted to fight other aircraft. MSCFS2 was so long ago I hardly remember it, but there was a new sim on the horizon promising great european theatres, and realism never seen in a flight sim.

That was the ever loved CFS3. It was buggy, and hardly ran with anything but medium or less detail (even on high end machines despite claims by MS).

I flew on line and saw the tie fighters which absorbed all the fun of playing on line. The campaign I started had me repeating the same mission over and over again. (At least it felt like the same mission)

My itch was burning to be scratched. I was definately underwhelmed with the sim experience. On Sim Out House there were posts recommending IL2. I never heard of it but went to my local Best Buy to look for it.

OMG. It was this box I've had in my hand numerous times before, but put back because anything from Russia has to be low quality. What's a Sturmovik?

So I plunked my $29.95 down on the counter and went home to install the game. My first ride was the Sturmovik. I flew it briefly. Correction I crashed it briefly. Oh WOW. Torque modelling. I heard myself hee heeing and tee heeing like a giddy kid on X Mas. I was amazed at the 3D cockpits. I knew right then and there MSCFS was dead to me. I rended my clothes and lamented in sack cloth and ashes for about two minutes.

the next flight was the FW on the tarmac while Sturmoviks attack the field. The interior colours of the cabin reflected the early morning glow of a snow storm. Geeeeeze what a detail. Minor I know, but it's impact was felt.

I, like Seafire, heard the sirens warning of incoming enemies as I sat on the strip. I was panicing. I hadn't felt adrenaline like this from a game in I don't know how long. I finally took off and was mere feet off the ground when a fully detailed IL2 crossed my path. Like a newb I followed at 220 kph. Like a newb I corkscrewed into the ground. Never had crashing been so fun.

The last tidbit that clutched my sim heart and didn't let go was the 109G6 mission thwarting an attack of IL2s against my harbour. I was close to an IL2. I slid under him and BOOOOOOOM. I went black. WTF? I checked the track to find the IL2 dropped his load just as I passed beneath him. Oh GAWD I LOVE THIS GAME.

I was sold, but I'll tell you. If Track IR hadn't come out I'd probably not have stuck with it as long as I have. Once that level of realism and tracking entered the melee I was hooked. I never looked back. Track IR for me is responsible for a great deal of purchases for this game. Maddox supporting enhanced mode made sure I'd be here for a while. I progressed to a HOTAS system and find I still stink after 6 years. LOL

I've said this many a time, but one of the hugest thrills I still get in IL2 is passing a few scant feet under a Pe 8 or He 111 while I can examine (with Tr IR) the flaming destruction I reaked on his buttocks.

It's never left my hard drive except for reformats and rebuilds.

Thanks Oleg and crew...... and yes..... Thanks UBI. It's been a great experience with a great forum of people too. (And that's just the cherry on top of the sundae)

F19_Orheim
10-16-2008, 03:10 AM
Well to be honest, good online gaming didn't do it for me, not the graphics nor the FM.

I had been a moderate "interestee" of flightsims/game ever since the goold old Spectrum 48K days.

Over the years I have bought and spent some times on quite a few titles, such as CS1, CS2, Screaming devils and EAF (which was the one I enjoyed the most) - but mostly I spread my gaming time on quite a few different games; 3rd person, strategy games etc etc.

The original IL2 I saw in a store, and bought, but didn't play much as for me at that time the learning curve for the FM was a tad steep.
When IL2FB arrived I of course bought it, but didn't really fly it much; I enjoyed other games back then.

However, one night after spending some hours online on an arcade server kicking *** in a Chaika, I decided to start a squadron - mostly just to improve on my Website building skills. I had really no plans to actually START a squadron - just a place for myself. Well after a few months we were 5+ members in F19 and had a really nice cooperation with F16, which bacame somewhat of a "sister squadron". Then we just grew and I got to learn so many good guys.

Also the work to implement J8A in the game really made me very "into it"

So in essence, it was not Il2's graphics, FM, theatre or war, maps, planes or whatever which got me hooked. For me it was all the really good guys and dare I say friends I met through flying this sim - Il2 was just the means.

Il2 offline? no way!! I need my wingmen!

stathem
10-16-2008, 03:44 AM
I never had my own PC until 2003.

Though the 90's I was a casual console gamer.

In 2000, I hooked up with a girl who is now my effective spouse and mother of my child, but when I met her she had a old PC. She used to work long hours even then and so I started to use that PC to while away the hours when she wasn't there. Remembering my childhood love of WW2 aviation, and the Flight Sims I used to play on my brother's Amiga in my teens (some Jet sim with an F-22, and a cracking Helo sim with Apaches and that stealth chopper that never came to pass) I went to a gaming store to look for a Sim. Then (must have been sometime in 2001) I saw the copies of Il-2 on the shelves; it really interested me since that plane had fascinated me from a picture in one of my childhood books. However the gf's PC was nowhere near the minimum specs, so I had to pass it over and get CFS1. That didn't run, so I got SDOE, which did.

She moved in with me in 2002, and when her ancient Pc gave up the ghost in 2003, I prompted (conned) her into us spending quite a sum of money (~1000) on a new one, on the basis that it would be future proof (which it has been, more or less, with some extra RAM and a new GC). After completing the offline missions in CFS1 (which now ran) I spent a few months doing one of the Red Alert series, and had some online games with that.

After getting bored with that, at the end of 2003 I went back to the store to try to find that game with the Russian ground attack plane on the front that I remembered.

But what sold me on it? I completed the offline campaigns and enjoyed them immensley; but I probably would have put it to one side and moved onto something else as I always had before if it wasn't for talking myself into going online one night. By then (early 2004)most of the community had moved onto FB; but there was a small, friendly and very helpful group of pilots still flying the original on the UBI lobby, including some very good pilots who are now quite influential on the WC server. Thats's really what sold me, some really good times then - and finally finding out about hyperlobby and eventually going full switch on greatergreen with FB:AEP.

BGs_Ricky
10-16-2008, 04:35 AM
I was playing EAW, FS:SDOE and Rowan's BoB at the time, and already when I saw the first screenshots of the Bf-109 and Il-2 I was impressed by the detail of the 3D model. I was also really interested in (finally) flying an east front sim, and as more screenshots and videos of Il-2 became available I was really sure it would be a better flight sim in most departments than any other I flew before.
When the demo came out it just confirmed what I was thinking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
The only thing where Il-2 has not been the best is in single-player immersion factor (for me the RBII campaign system is still the best one I ever played), but for the rest it really set a new standard in WWII combat flight sims.

F19_Orheim
10-16-2008, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by stathem:
... greatergreen with FB:AEP.

What a great server it was http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jensenpark
10-16-2008, 08:23 AM
Always fun to look back over the past years at what brought people to this addiction - and think of how the game has grown/changed.

What sold me on the game was this forum - and the screenshots. Was sitting board at work and was surfing the web. Found this and was hooked. Remember looking incredulously at one of a He111 crash landed and the pilot running away. I was thinking "no way that can be part of a game".

As for Greatergreen - the server that got me seriously hooked for on-line play. Miss it.

crucislancer
10-16-2008, 08:24 AM
I recall seeing the PC Gamer preview, but at the time I couldn't see the appeal of a sim based on a Russian ground attack plane in WWII (I was wrong, obviously!), I pretty much forgot about it until around 2 years ago I saw a sim package on EBay that included Flanker 2, Silent Hunter 2, and IL-2 Sturmovik. I got it so I could fly the Flanker again ( I was a huge fan of the original sim), but then I gave IL-2 a try. A month later I'm flying IL-2 exclusively, Flanker 2 and Silent Hunter 2 sit and gather dust.

What sold me was just the fun of flying the original plane set and all the bells and whistles that come with it.

Heliopause
10-16-2008, 09:21 AM
At work somebody mentioned it. I checked some screenshots and they looked good. Since I just had a new computer I bought Il-2 FB for a couple of euros soon after that....and was hooked. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
(I had EAW at the time, flying off-line).

mmitch10
10-16-2008, 09:30 AM
In 2004, I was still happy playing Red Baron, but a friend asked me if I knew of any decent WW2 combat flight sims. I didn't want to recommend anything I hadn't tried myself, and I knew that PC Zone recommended FB as the best, so I bought a copy on a budget label. It hasn't been off my hard drive since.

AWL_Spinner
10-16-2008, 09:35 AM
I'm another veteran of the original demo.

I seem to recall an FW-190 scramble against incoming IL2s? Maybe that was in the full IL2 release.

Anyways, the flight model had me hooked as soon as the thing bounced into the air.

rnzoli
10-16-2008, 09:46 AM
Ahh, precisely, these threads always indicate new levels of boredom regarding SoW:BoB or 4.09b final release http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Looking backwards instead of looking forward...

I was also a moderate Sinclair Spectrum 48K flight sim fan in the '80s (megaLOL, with binary on-off joystick!), and although I flirted with real flying for a while (went through some special screening for would-be fighter pilots, another LOL), eventually I resigned to play with the civilian branch of MS flight sims, from CGA to XVGA monitors in the '90s.

I was happily making night IFR approaches in bad weather until 2003, when I though "this is boring, gimme some more adrenalin", so looked up the combat sims availabe at that time. Jets didn't impress me since Top Gun (call it gay hate, if you wish http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, tried some crappy ww2 sims, looked further, CFS was over all adverts, plus I found a link to a small title with a demo. I vaguely knew what IL-2 was, so I gave it a try...

... and nearly quit in 5 minutes, due to the green jelly coming out from the small caliber machine guns. "what a cheap crap software" I thought, but then I noticed that the cannon projectiles make nice curves due to gravity and they also cross in convergence ranges... which was a very high detail in my view.

The final push was a stall during dogfight, which I could not recover. I tried to stall out again, and could not recover again (intentinally I started to fly with highest difficulty settings). Then I recalled some memories about the ground school lessons in class, did something similar to a stall recovery, and low and behold, the little simulated plane recovered as well..... That was the moment when I decided that I must own this piece of software..... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Still in love with it and Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif, even though I cannot play as much as I used to do.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Tranie117
10-16-2008, 09:58 AM
Me and my Dad (Desk Piolet) have always loved flight sims/Flying games/Space sims etc. But we'd never played a proper simulation. Wing commander prophecy and Ace combat six were the closet I'd come to a sim!!! Anyways, dad got IL-2 and we both fell in love. I have a 360 with the likes of Bioshock and Halo 3 so the graphic didn't Blow me away but it is a very good looking game. The damage system is the best I've seen on any game, the AI is very good, everything about it screamed realism.

****I think the main reason I play is because it's so damb rewarding! I found that just taking off and landing on IL-2 is more rewarding then completing every level on allot of other games. Having played it for quiet I few months now i know that I have only just touched the tip of tyhe Iceberg. I have enjoyed it so much and have so much left to enjoy.

Personaly I cannot wait for Brids of Pey to be released. The only thing I don't like about this game is that it's on the PC. Although I should mention it is the only game never to crash on out PC I don't enjoy gaming on the PC as much as the 360. (I'm not going into why, this is a nice thread lets not ruine it with that Deabate.) When that comes out I'm going lock myself in my room so me and the game can be alone for a few years, settle down, and lead a quiet life.

x6BL_Brando
10-16-2008, 10:13 AM
I'd been flying Warbirds and Dawn of Aces online for a couple of years with a great bunch of guys. It was a love-hate relationship really. I loved the company and the co-operation - but the game had some bad flaws that spoilt the effect of virtual flight. Then someone said "have you seen this new game, Sturmovik?" and I went and bought a copy in 2001. After my first couple of flights I knew I would never go back to Warbirds, and most of us agreed.
"The King is dead; Long live the King"

B

Phas3e
10-16-2008, 01:04 PM
I was playing EAW and Janes WW2F,

Once I had a computer good enough I tried the demo, and fell in love when I played back a track at 1/8 speed of a P39 cannon shell through from low front quarter just missing the engine and knocking off the vertical stabilizer from a Ju88.

Sirrith
10-16-2008, 01:55 PM
I remember seeing the original IL2 on the shelves of a game store about 5 years ago... I didn't really think much about it back then, and didn't bother buying it, as I was about 13 at the time, and I didn't have the money :P

I got into battlefield 1942, and loved flying in that game (and still do), and after about 4 years of battlefield, I decided to google flight sims. gamespot pointed me to IL2, and after seeing it for 1 pound on ebay UK, I decided to buy it and give it a try. I loved it, and decided to get 1946 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Buzzsaw-
10-16-2008, 03:52 PM
Salute

I was a RED BARON enthusiast back in 1999. AT 50 pilots online, nothing came close to this great piece of code. But all things come to an end, and at that time, the game was getting a little long in the tooth, the graphics and flight model were showing their age, and I looked around for other options. Tried EUROPEAN AIR WAR, liked it, but didn't like the fact online was restricted to 8 people. Tried WWII FIGHTERS, loved the grahics and sound, liked the flight model less, it was a little arcade, and the online was very laggy.

Got involved with the dedicated online game ACES HIGH, which had a great flight model, but the graphics were limited. Still had many happy hours there.

Then started to see the news of three new sims in development, Rowan's BATTLE OF BRITAIN, Microprose's B-17 II, and this obscure Russian sim IL-2 STURMOVIK.

The first two initially held my interest more for the content, I prefer the West Front, but the fellow developing IL-2, Oleg Maddox, had the great idea of coming online to the forums and talking in detail to potential buyers about the sim. He responded to our questions, even added features at our request. We urged him to add fighters, he did. We pointed out the great interest generated by allowing players to create their own skins, that became an aspect of the game. We were able to send in our Squadron crests and other details for incorporation into the game. RAF74 has been a small part of the code for IL-2 from the start. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I watched as Oleg's plan for IL-2 developed from an initial game which only had one flyable, the IL-2, to one which would also have the LaGG-3, MiG-3, P-39N, 109F2, and 109G2. Then the La-5FN was added, and then finally the 109G6AS. I pored over the .jpeg's, and the .mpegs, and gradually I realized this was going to be something special.

But it took so long! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Oleg's initial Publisher ran out of money, sold out to another Publisher, who also ran out of money and also sold out, and finally UBISOFT was involved. Throughout the process, Oleg never quit developing the product, and never admitted defeat. There were many naysayers who insisted that the game would never be published. (sound familiar? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif )

Meanwhile both Rowan's BATTLE OF BRITAIN, and Microprose's B-17 II had been published, and while both had some good points, overall they were a disappointment.

BoB had a great flight model, nice graphics, and interesting strategic campaign, but online was basically useless.

B-17 II was initially promised with online play, but that was cancelled. The game itself was graphically very good for its time, but the flight modelling of the fighters, my main interest, was completely ludicrous. Plus the lack of online meant no Squad play, something which RAF74 and the other longtime Flight Sim Squads really lived for.

So it was with great eagarness, mixed with trepitation that we might see another failure, that I downloaded the IL-2 demo on its release.

To say I was blown away is an understatement. That mission with the P-39 taking off into the thunderstorm.... AMAZING!

When the the Sim finally went gold, the complete game was even better. Online play was spectacularly good compared to any other Sim except RED BARON, with 16 planes initially, later with server software the game was upgraded to 32 online.

The graphics, gunnery model, and flight dynamics were miles ahead of its time, putting to shame all the dedicated online Sims like ACES HIGH or WARBIRDS.

It was the beginning of nearly 10 years of happy online enjoyment. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Now we have come full circle, Oleg is in the final stages of what promises to be an even more spectacular product.

IL-2 has provided the greatest online simming experience of my hobby lifetime, but it looks like it will be eclipsed by something even more amazing.

My prediction is that "STORM OF WAR Battle of Britain" will see the greatest reviews EVER for a flight sim, perhaps the greatest reviews for any Simulation of ANY type.

Look forward to it my friends, it will be something special. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
10-16-2008, 04:10 PM
I saw a preview in PC Gamer Magazine. Andy Mahood was drooling over this new WW2 Combat sim about to come out and its sparked my interest. I been playing FPS and RTS games with Pappy during this time and told him about the game. We found out there was a demo for the game and had to try it. I can remember downloading it because back then I had 56k and it took forever. We both flew the demo with keyboard and mouse but the visuals and realism was far beyond what we have ever seen in a flight sim and we were both sold on the game and I anxiously waited for ebgames to get IL2 in stock.

I still remember those days on UBI. I still remember squads that no longer exist. I remember the fun we had flying around in TX squads dedicated server and Warclouds before they moved to HL.

Hopefully SoW and Project Galba will give similar memories. Although the impact IL2 made on me will be hard to beat, cause it was so ahead of its time.

S!

WTE_Galway
10-16-2008, 07:18 PM
As a dis-illusioned MS flight simmer who was sick of wading through the thousands of freebie "star trek enterprises" downloads and "harry potter broomsticks" trying to find decent planes the arrival of a sim with some sort of control over the madness was a great relief.

josephs1959
10-16-2008, 07:56 PM
A magazine review back in Sept.-Oct. 01.

PC Gamer or Pc games,if I remember correctly, I do however still remember my reaction the article;
"Oh boy! WWII games!" FINALLY!

I_KG100_Prien
10-16-2008, 08:24 PM
Picked up the original IL2 and Forgotten Battles in a bundle at a game shop years ago. I had not played a good flight sim so gave it a go.

The way the game plays is what sold me on it. It seemed so solid compared to the older games.. It was cool to actually learn how to fly the planes rather than rely on yank and banking in everything.

huggy87
10-16-2008, 09:41 PM
Read about in CGW and PCGamer before it ever came out. Couldn't buy it until I returned from deployment in '01. Didn't really play it until '03 when I deployed. Then I played the hell out of it. I'd return from a real mission and just blow off steam playing a virtual one.

I was sold from the very first campaign mission I saw; a bunch of messserchmits escorting planes to somewhere like leningrad.

96th_Nightshifter
10-16-2008, 10:30 PM
I was heavily into CFS1 & 2 and my squad mates back then slowly started moving into IL2 and I reluctantly followed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'll always remember the very first flight in IL2, was so much more than what I "thought" was the best i.e. CFS2..........oh how wrong I was lol

That was close to 5 years ago now and I still can't believe how much persuasion it took for me to give in and try it out over my beloved CFS2. Have never looked back or played CFS2 since that first flight into the world of the IL2 series http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

msalama
10-17-2008, 12:14 AM
I was flying FS9 a lot back in 2004 or so, and a mate I'm still occasionally flying with told me about IL-2. I got instantly hooked on the game's namesake and that's where I'm still at. I mean, who needs progress when you have Sturmoviks huh http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

K_Freddie
10-17-2008, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by rnzoli:
... and nearly quit in 5 minutes, due to the green jelly coming out from the small caliber machine guns. (
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jolly_magpie
10-17-2008, 12:35 AM
As I recall, that 2001 demo took ages to download, I think it was the thing that made me ditch my 56k dialup for broadband.

leitmotiv
10-17-2008, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by huggy87:
Read about in CGW and PCGamer before it ever came out. Couldn't buy it until I returned from deployment in '01. Didn't really play it until '03 when I deployed. Then I played the hell out of it. I'd return from a real mission and just blow off steam playing a virtual one.

I was sold from the very first campaign mission I saw; a bunch of messserchmits escorting planes to somewhere like leningrad.

Amazing!

huggy87
10-17-2008, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by huggy87:
Read about in CGW and PCGamer before it ever came out. Couldn't buy it until I returned from deployment in '01. Didn't really play it until '03 when I deployed. Then I played the hell out of it. I'd return from a real mission and just blow off steam playing a virtual one.

I was sold from the very first campaign mission I saw; a bunch of messserchmits escorting planes to somewhere like leningrad.

Amazing! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really. In the real world I was a high speed typist dropping JDAM and JSOW from 20,000'+. In the virtual world I could be the next erich hartmann or chuck yeager blasting away at 300'. I was really hoping the Iraqis would send someone up to play; they chose to bury their air force instead.

SeaFireLIV
10-17-2008, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by huggy87:


Not really. In the real world I was a high speed typist dropping JDAM and JSOW from 20,000'+. In the virtual world I could be the next erich hartmann or chuck yeager blasting away at 300'. I was really hoping the Iraqis would send someone up to play; they chose to bury their air force instead.

So you`re saying that the real war (at least for you) was more boring than the virtual war? Interesting.

huggy87
10-17-2008, 08:06 AM
I don't know if boring is the right word; there were plenty of times that got my blood pressure raised. Those times were mostly weather related. Almost all of my missions were at night, and for about 2 weeks during the invasion the weather was god awful. Rendezvousing on a tanker at night in solid clouds with turbulence over eastern turkey (terrain that looked like the alps) while leading a younger guy who was probably more scared than me was hair-raising.

It's more like this. I am one of those people who dreamed of being a fighter pilot since as long as I can remember. In my childhood fantasies I was always the next Erich Hartmann, Chuck Yeager, Von Richthofen, Rickenbacker, Mannock, etc.; you get the picture. Furthermore, I would be a great leader. The next Pappy Boyington or Eisenhower.

I was placed in the awkward position of actually having my childhood fantasies come true, to a point. While in college, flight school and later the fleet I discovered some humbling truths about myself. First, I am not unique in wanting to be a fighter pilot. Plenty of other kids want to do that, and many, like me, make it happen through hard work and a lot of luck. Second, I discovered that I am not a great leader. I was a decent officer, but the next Bull Halsey I was not. Third, I'm probably just a "fleet average" hornet pilot. Fleet average is pretty good, it means I'm up to the standards of your typical modern Western Fighter pilot. That is pretty good by historical standards. However, I certainly don't win every dogfight. In fact, in BFM against my peers I probably lose as many as I win.

In short, as I grew up I realized I am not invincible. Many young men dream of battle and glory and as you get older you realize how foolish that is. By the time I actually found myself getting shot at for real, being the next Chuck Yeager was the farthest thing from my mind. I just wanted to get through my missions and not f##k something up. Oh, I got bolder and more confident the more missions I flew. In Afghanistan in '01 I was always a wingman. By the time I was in Iraq I was the flight lead and was going out looking for a fight; trying to find different FAC's to whom I could donate our ordnance. A big part of me was disappointed that Iraq wasn't a bigger show. But on the other hand I'm grateful that "my war" was a small affair compared to what my predecessors faced in say, Hanoi 1967 or Berlin 1944. My tiny amount of combat experience gives me all the more respect for those who actually went against a competent foe.

Now, I'm out of the US Military and instructing foreign pilots. I'll never get a chance to be Erich Hartmann or Chuck Yeager and that's OK with me. I get to see my kids every night and I can still pretend like I am them at my PC.

SeaFireLIV
10-17-2008, 08:50 AM
Thanks for that, huggy87. In some ways I think we lads can all relate to that, even those never having been in the military. It is deflating, but sounds like you became a lot wiser and knew yourself better as a result.

Low_Flyer_MkIX
10-17-2008, 09:06 AM
That's a very profound post, Huggy - should be stickied. ~S!~

joeap
10-17-2008, 09:30 AM
Indeed very profound post Huggy. Am I right in one of the big differences between you and your fellow pilots in today's military and the pilots of old (the "average" as well as the aces) is the lack, as you put it, of opposition?

rnzoli
10-17-2008, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
It is deflating, No, for me it was quite a positive story. Right decisions, at the right time, with the right understanding. Life is a jurney, and one must make a best of it, irrespectively from old "dreams". Sobering? Not when you exchange one old dream with a new one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

larschance
10-17-2008, 11:29 AM
Always had an interest in WW2 aircraft and aviation history since a nipper. Read hundreds of books etc on the subject. Daydreamed about being a fighter pilot but Maths marks not high enough to enter air force. Then many years later found AirForce and Dauntless board games. Created a basic computer programme to give combat results for those games. Then along came Aces over the Pacific and Aces over Europe then SWOL EAW and WW2 Fighters. Dabbled with CFS 1 2 and 3 then at last the eastern front appeared and all those previously unflown russian types in 2001. Never looked back after that.

K_Freddie
10-17-2008, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
.... all the more respect for those who actually went against a competent foe.
That's about it really.
We're lucky we can 'sim' this online, and not have this in RL.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

MB_Avro_UK
10-17-2008, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by huggy87:
I don't know if boring is the right word; there were plenty of times that got my blood pressure raised. Those times were mostly weather related. Almost all of my missions were at night, and for about 2 weeks during the invasion the weather was god awful. Rendezvousing on a tanker at night in solid clouds with turbulence over eastern turkey (terrain that looked like the alps) while leading a younger guy who was probably more scared than me was hair-raising.

It's more like this. I am one of those people who dreamed of being a fighter pilot since as long as I can remember. In my childhood fantasies I was always the next Erich Hartmann, Chuck Yeager, Von Richthofen, Rickenbacker, Mannock, etc.; you get the picture. Furthermore, I would be a great leader. The next Pappy Boyington or Eisenhower.

I was placed in the awkward position of actually having my childhood fantasies come true, to a point. While in college, flight school and later the fleet I discovered some humbling truths about myself. First, I am not unique in wanting to be a fighter pilot. Plenty of other kids want to do that, and many, like me, make it happen through hard work and a lot of luck. Second, I discovered that I am not a great leader. I was a decent officer, but the next Bull Halsey I was not. Third, I'm probably just a "fleet average" hornet pilot. Fleet average is pretty good, it means I'm up to the standards of your typical modern Western Fighter pilot. That is pretty good by historical standards. However, I certainly don't win every dogfight. In fact, in BFM against my peers I probably lose as many as I win.

In short, as I grew up I realized I am not invincible. Many young men dream of battle and glory and as you get older you realize how foolish that is. By the time I actually found myself getting shot at for real, being the next Chuck Yeager was the farthest thing from my mind. I just wanted to get through my missions and not f##k something up. Oh, I got bolder and more confident the more missions I flew. In Afghanistan in '01 I was always a wingman. By the time I was in Iraq I was the flight lead and was going out looking for a fight; trying to find different FAC's to whom I could donate our ordnance. A big part of me was disappointed that Iraq wasn't a bigger show. But on the other hand I'm grateful that "my war" was a small affair compared to what my predecessors faced in say, Hanoi 1967 or Berlin 1944. My tiny amount of combat experience gives me all the more respect for those who actually went against a competent foe.

Now, I'm out of the US Military and instructing foreign pilots. I'll never get a chance to be Erich Hartmann or Chuck Yeager and that's OK with me. I get to see my kids every night and I can still pretend like I am them at my PC.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Bremspropeller
10-17-2008, 04:38 PM
Thanks for the insight, huggy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Choctaw111
10-17-2008, 05:30 PM
I stumbled across Il2 back in 2001 while surfing for combat flight sim related things. I was VERY impressed when I downloaded the demo and could not wait for the initial release.
Never before or since has a computer game/sim, whatever you want to call it, held my attention for so long.

LEXX_Luthor
10-18-2008, 05:44 PM
Aussom poast huggy.

Something I read about. Maybe you heard of this. USAAF trying to punch out thousands of pilots as fast as possible ramping up training in early WW2 sometimes used a shortcut technique.

Newbie pilots, training on P-40s in hot dry Texas, turn on final and the control sees no wingtip contrail vortex. Tower calls out turn tighter...until they see vortex. Tower wants to see vortex. Pilots pull tighter but in extra dry days there is no vortex until well beyond stall (we know this today). Tower keeps calling turn tighter until Newbie stalls turning on final. Just one wild example I heard about. Those guys had to have guts back then because they saw their own fall like flies all the time, even in training, and they keep going like Duracell Bunny.

leitmotiv
10-18-2008, 07:28 PM
You are a good man, H.

woofiedog
10-19-2008, 03:55 AM
huggy87... Very interesting post... Thank's for sharing.

Tully__
10-19-2008, 04:22 AM
Saw it in the shop, bought it. Installed it, put it on the shelf pending a hardware upgrade.

About 6 months later, the squad I had just joined moved from EAW to IL2. I upgraded, found I could now just run the game well enough to play. I loved it then and still do.

DuxCorvan
10-19-2008, 06:00 AM
It was a ww2 air combat sim. That's usually enough for me to buy it and have it, even if I find it disappointing. Second, it was an Eastern Front sim. For the first time in the history of sims. I just couldn't miss it.


Originally posted by huggy87:
I just wanted to get through my missions and not f##k something up.

That's what I've read or heard from real fighter pilots since WW1: doing your work and getting back home. That's how online virtual fights should be to be realistic, but I guess that would be less attractive for most people.

Nice post, Huggy.

pupo162
10-19-2008, 02:42 PM
my uncle offered it to me... i hated becouse it was to hard for 14 year old kid...
now (with 16), i play it as much as i can!

na85
10-19-2008, 02:49 PM
I actually took part in a study about violence and videogames. They had us shoot down some civilan C47's.

Later that month the girl administering the test told me I'd scored the highest of all the participants (I was super eager to take those capitalist dogs down, I guess) so I said what the hell and bought the game.

What really sold me on it, though, was the damage modeling. Not knowing ANYTHING about plane matchups I proceeded to get into a knife fight against a zero in a FW190 and got some holes in my wing. Looking through and into the wing and seeing stuff inside was just awesome.

BadA1m
10-19-2008, 03:03 PM
I flew CFS1 for some time, bought CFS2 the day it came out. I heard of IL2 on some forum or something, and downloaded the demo. I bought IL2 on the day it was released and never looked back.