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raaaid
04-20-2005, 02:27 PM
pf seems best to me with more than 1000 but is there any other you dont have to pay a mensual fee?

no 3d shooters of course

Sturmvogel66
04-21-2005, 01:14 AM
Well, you dont have to pay for Target Rabaul, but I think its not that great. If you are ever willing to pay, World War 2 Online is a great choice. Ground, Sea, and Air all together on one persistant front. Its worth the monthly fee, for sure.

fherathras
04-21-2005, 06:14 AM
"hich are the more massive online ww2 games?"



Call of duty/United offensive, is the one that comes into my mind

Sterf21
04-21-2005, 06:22 AM
He said no 3d-shooters....raaid go figure yourself

fherathras
04-21-2005, 06:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sterf21:
He said no 3d-shooters....raaid go figure yourself <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


ah! so he did http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



sorry about that raaid, I`m just so used to ignoring stuff you write, thats all...



well then i vote for Maddox series or CFS3

SCHADEN
04-21-2005, 07:31 AM
There are 3 mmog for WW2 airwar at the moment, though you do have to pay a sub you don't have to buy the game and also buy the updates - they're all about 50c a day or $15 a month unlimited game play.

Aces High - most successful in terms of numbers, about 4000 subs (+/-) with about 300 to 400 online in a single room in prime time - usual 2 week free trial - aimed a a realistic flight and gunnery model audience with full cockpit - built in vox is very good, eye candy though being upgraded is not as good as IL2.

Fighter Ace - less numbers, going through the usual flux at the moment as to whether it's carrying on, numbers are lower bout 100 online, to gamey for many people - open view cockpit, lazer guns and "relaxed" physics

Warbirds - smallest by far, less than 50 peeps online, haven't played this one much.

Links
http://www.hitechcreations.com/
https://fighterace.ketsujin.com/
http://www.totalsims.com/

MMOG with an ongoing "war" make for addictive game play, I enjoy IL2 but prefer online flying vs hundreds of people.

F4UDash4
04-21-2005, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SCHADEN:

Warbirds - smallest by far, less than 50 peeps online, haven't played this one much.
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What happened to Warbirds? It used to be HUGE, by far the largest online WWII flight sim. I flew with the Red Raiders squadron for a while, had a blast.

CAPT_COTTON
04-21-2005, 08:40 AM
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HUmmmmmmmm the ace fighters is the old VR1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif and i wonder if my number still works he he http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif?it is based on combat flight simaulaters . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

raaaid
04-21-2005, 09:25 AM
i wouldnt call cfs3 massive, i tried it and there were only 10 online games or is there something im missing about cfs3 online

fherathras
04-21-2005, 10:55 AM
WOW! I saw the same thing!

sukebeboy
04-22-2005, 07:31 AM
World War II Online would be the obvious answer. Yes, there are 3D FPS elements too it, but you don't have to play as infantry. You can take a fighter or bomber up or help crew. Same applies for various naval units, armour and anti tank, anti-air guns.

Covino
04-22-2005, 07:57 AM
Some Russian folks have taken Warbirds II and set up their own free server, it's called Warbirds FreeHost. Although it's not really "massive" (70 people at peak times usually, though all on one server/arena). It's pretty fun, it's realistic, has a rolling planeset, but probably even more whiners than here.
www.wbfree.net (http://www.wbfree.net)

F4UDash4
04-22-2005, 09:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Covino:
Some Russian folks have taken Warbirds II and set up their own free server, it's called Warbirds FreeHost. Although it's not really "massive" (70 people at peak times usually, though all on one server/arena). It's pretty fun, it's realistic, has a rolling planeset, but probably even more whiners than here.
http://www.wbfree.net <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mmmm, I had heard a little about that. I guess anti software pirating laws don't mean much in Russia.

telsono
04-22-2005, 10:55 AM
I played WWII online when it first came out and was not impressed. The fps were just terrible, you locked up so easily. One funny event was when I shot down a Bf 109 with the turret co-axial 7.7mm mg of a Hotchkiss H-39 tank. Its a one many turret should not have been able to transverse that fast.

Stiglr
04-22-2005, 09:35 PM
Well, I'm not a big fan of WWII Online for a variety of reasons, but... if you tried it "when it first came out", it's 500% better than then. When it first arrived, it'd been rushed out the door by the distributor, and was so bad it was a wonder it survived the first two weeks. To the Cornered Rats' credit, though, they have made a LOT of improvements and additions since that horrid introdution.

So, if you're down on WWIIOL based on v1.0 or thereabouts, consider yourself not really having tried it.

Fennec_P
04-23-2005, 04:12 AM
As a flight sim, WWII:OL is not fun at all.

I'm not quite sure what version I tried, but I don't think it was the original release. It was a free trial.

Despite being heavily simplified, it's actually harder to play than a real sim. Even as a flight sim veteran and IL-2 fanatic, I had trouble just taking off without doing bizarre donuts or flips.

All control surfaces are too responsive, even in planes like the 109E at high speeds. This, coupled with a ridiculously strict blackout model, results in a lot of lawn darting. You just touch the stick and boom: you instantly black out. Because trim isn't modelled, your plane doesn't have any tendancy to auto-recover dives, so... almost every blackout results in you crashing.

The draw distance is only a few kilometers, and you can't make it further as far as I can tell. So if you're any higher than 2000m altitude, the ground vanishes in fog. It also means you can't see airplanes any further away than a few klicks. If that weren't bad enough, there's icons! Combat basically consists of you feeling your way through the fog, encountering an enemy plane, and doing a turnfight once you both spot each others icons. B&Z or any kind of tactics are out of the question, since you can't see anything.

Bizarre options. Like, an option for 'cruise' and 'combat' RPM on the 109E... when it should just be auto.

Bizzare weapon modelling. You'll find yourself being shot by riflemen as you zip around at 500m.

The planes all die in a few hits for some reason. I scored one 20mm hit on a Hawk-75 (from 400m away, too), and it went down. I hit another Hawk-75 with one shell, and it went down too. As a flak38 gunner, I hit a Hawk-75 with one shell and, you guessed it, it went down. When I tried the Bf-110, it was almost as if the enemy planes had giant pairs of scissors. They'd fly up to me, fire, and a wing would come off, just like that.

Gah, I think I've mocked it enough. I'm just really sore for having wasted a few hours of my life on that game.

WH_Phist
04-24-2005, 08:01 AM
Had ww2http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gifl on opening day. The day we realized the game CD had only a video on it. The game itself had to be downloaded (130 MB before the days of everyone being on cable) and of course, non of the servers worked.

Went back to ww2 online a few weeks ago for the free 2 week demo to see if any of the FM related problems had been fixed. Not only is it still cheasy, but there are very few people around to kill. Hardly massive and certainly not accurate. Save your money.

Reybert
04-25-2005, 07:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by telsono:
I played WWII online when it first came out and was not impressed. The fps were just terrible, you locked up so easily. One funny event was when I shot down a Bf 109 with the turret co-axial 7.7mm mg of a Hotchkiss H-39 tank. Its a one many turret should not have been able to transverse that fast. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There were no H-39 when the game first came out :P

gencasper
04-25-2005, 02:50 PM
The best WW2 online game is by far Battlefield1942. I know, many are going to say that it's a shooter game but you can really do (and be) anything you want (jump in tanks, planes, AA guns, ships, infantry, medics, engineers, snipers, artillery, etc). You can play up to 64 online at same time and there are tons of excellent mods for the game (WW1, Vietnam, Iraq War).

Best thing?? The mods and playing online is all FREE. Battlefield 2 is coming out this june ('05) with a better engine but not sure if they'll have ww2 maps,etc. I know it's supposed to keep track of stats on internet,etc.

Please forgive this post if you speaking about RTS games, simulation games,etc only but BF1942 is really and already a classic. There's about 10,000 players online anytime.

Bikewer
04-26-2005, 08:05 PM
Although BF is great fun, it's flight model is...rather primitive.
I play the Forgotten Hope "realism" mod currently, and it's loads better for the ground pounders, but the flight model is still from hunger. If you like flying toy planes around, it can be fun, and good piloting is crucial to many maps.

I played WWIIonline for about a year, finally quitting just a few months ago. Wonderful game, but like most such massive-multiplayer jobs, very demanding of time. Get in with a good squad and sign a good portion of your life away...hehe.

I found the flight model to be quirky, but I'd rate it second only to Oleg's efforts. At least you get a good feel of actually flying, what with the plane bumping and jerking around a lot. You really have to work your aircraft to it's best advantage. They keep making improvements in the game, which frequently takes hits in the FPS department as a result.
I could just get acceptable framerates with my 1.9processor, gig of RAM, and 9800pro card.

ImpStarDuece
04-26-2005, 11:57 PM
AS much as I hate to bump anything with that Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiid (or however he spells it) seal of approval, there actually has been some interesting discussion.

Something that has really piqued my intrest is the upcoming 'Invasion 44' full conversion mod for Operation Flashpoint. I'm now just going to have to wade through a sea of blood and bodies to get my OpFlash; Resistance disks back from a younger sibling.

Apparently it has completely accurate external models for most of the main allied and axis weapons and armour as well as realistic weapon sounds and so on and so forth. A lot of the new scenery and 'islands' that they are doing for it look amazing too; fields of tall grass with wildflowers, 8 foot hedgerows, new tree models, the Normandy stone farm houses that look like Neolithic mans attempt to build bomb proof structures, the beaches and roads look pretty fantastic too.

Aaron_GT
04-27-2005, 12:57 AM
Something that has really piqued my intrest is the upcoming 'Invasion 44' full conversion mod for Operation Flashpoint


I thought that had already been released and then work on it stopped? I certainly downloaded something called 'Invasion 44' over a year ago and played it. It was pretty decent.

ImpStarDuece
04-27-2005, 04:46 AM
There are Normandy and Eastern Front specific mods being worked on at the moment by a pretty big team of volunteers.

Think of this as Invasion 44 Mk 2

WB_Outlaw
04-27-2005, 05:48 AM
Something that has really piqued my intrest is the upcoming 'Invasion 44' full conversion mod for Operation Flashpoint.

OFP is the king of all FPS'. Everything else is just absolute total and complete vermin infested stinking garbage. Far Cry boasted a 1.2 km view distance when it came out. OFP could do 5 km 5 years (?) ago. I can't wait for OFP 2. Yes some of the newer games have some features that are better than OFP but all in all, it still leads everything.

I took a look at invasion '44 a few weeks ago and was impressed. The audio was much better than the original, especially for the shoulder fired rockets. Also, the clip ejecting from the M1 after the last round is perfect.

As far as multiplayer flight sims go, nothing beats Aces High, IF you can stand an unrealistic plane set in the main arena. Every country having every plane is what I hated most about AW (didn't stop me from throwing $12k (over ten years) at it though) and since AH is basically the evolution of AW, it's still there. Fortunately there are lots of planned special event missions (almost weekly).

Between directing carrier task forces, operating aircraft from carriers and land bases, gunning up to 8" triple gun turrets, crewing aircraft and vehicles, running supplies, capturing enemy fields/towns/ports, CAS (for your buds in the armor), CAP, bombing/torpedo missions, the integrated voice comms, and a continuous campaign, it's really cool.

WW-II online is terrible. The game play is non-existent. Their attempts to force players to cooperate are total failures and it would be better without them. Even then, the frequent screen lock-ups, pathetic frame rate, and lack of integrated voice would still be a game killer. It has potential but it just ain't there.

BTW, both WW-II online and Aces High/Confirmed Kill/Warbirds were started by former Air Warriors.

-Outlaw.

Bikewer
04-27-2005, 09:27 AM
WW-II online is terrible. The game play is non-existent. Their attempts to force players to cooperate are total failures and it would be better without them. Even then, the frequent screen lock-ups, pathetic frame rate, and lack of integrated voice would still be a game killer. It has potential but it just ain't there.

Not to come off like a big WWII fanboy, but not entirely true. Getting into a good squad is paramount, IMO. Eliminates much of the complaints. Lack of gameplay? I participated in many well-coordinated operations, with excellent planning, cooperation from the air arms, and so forth. (playing Axis)
Sure, sometimes it all falls apart, but that's war...hehe.
Yes, performance can be a problem. I didn't have any problem with freezes or lockups, but poor FR was pretty much epidemic, even with broadband. Each time we had a spate of problems, the "Rats" would eventually figure it out.
No integrated voice? We all used Teamspeak. Worked great.

Still, having much fun with Forgotten Hope. No flying for me, thanks, but you can jump into a couple of intense battles for an hour or so and then leave it.

WH_Phist
04-27-2005, 04:30 PM
You do sound like a fanboy, but that's just me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Air Warrior was the best for it's time. The capture of airfields with just the right balance of difficulty, which required teamwork, were the best. The graphics in sims has improved over time but at the expense of player limits and strategy. AW had it all.

Hanglands
11-30-2006, 04:01 AM
Its the biggest bomb in the IL2 series, the massive FAB 5000. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

If you watch the FW190/Ju88 Mistel, it produces the same results - and its flyable http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif, unlike the the Pe-8 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I did an experiment to measure the blast radius of most bombs/bomb pairs in game: http://forums.<b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">ubi[/b].com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/323...231029284#3231029284 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/3231029284?r=3231029284#3231029284) I only did the loadouts for flyables though. The Mistel has a staggering effective radius of 680m. I would love to see how that compares to the FAB5000<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Philipscdrw
11-30-2006, 04:39 AM
The FAB5000 is a conventional bomb, a very big one!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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tigertalon
11-30-2006, 07:49 AM
This one is a 5 ton bomb. Now imagine a 15.000 ton ( 3 thousand times more) bomb (equivalent of early nukes).<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

<span class="ev_code_BLACK"><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">???An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child in this great nation.

TgD Thunderbolt56
11-30-2006, 09:16 AM
I remember the good ol days when there was a small number of servers that had AI Pe8's as flyables. We would gather a loose formation of 4-5 of these guys and all take the FAB5000's.

All I can say is three words...impressive, devastating, fun.


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tigertalon
11-30-2006, 09:42 AM
UKD2 has Pe8s with 5 ton bomb enabled on a couple of maps. You couldn't put it together better: "impressive, devastating, fun."<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

<span class="ev_code_BLACK"><pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">???An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child in this great nation.

zhenelzuar
12-01-2006, 02:04 AM
Wowowowwo, 5 ton bomb. It's amazin'<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9862/ilpm7.jpg (http://www.il2.english4ever.com/)

zhenelzuar
12-01-2006, 02:47 AM
Use this server, It has Pe8

81.200.2.214:21000<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9862/ilpm7.jpg (http://www.il2.english4ever.com/)

zhenelzuar
12-01-2006, 02:48 AM
P.S. The screen shot is from this server<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9862/ilpm7.jpg (http://www.il2.english4ever.com/)

roybaty
12-02-2006, 09:35 AM
Imagine if we had this one ingam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_bomb<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Hanglands
12-02-2006, 11:00 AM
Check http://home.aol.com/nukeinfo2/#10.%20%20Bomb,%20GP,%2042,000-lb,%20T-12

....All the way up to the 42000lb'er.

While we're on the subject of earthquake bombs, I watched a documentary on the Tirpitz recently. The Tallboy bombs were filled by hand. BY HAND!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Thats 5200lb of Torpex, each bomb taking three or four women a few days to fill.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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delphiboy
12-02-2006, 07:06 PM
It took 15 Royal Engineers 5 days to use up 2500kg of plastic explosive, doing a Full Battle group quick attack display,on an enemy bunker complex, we had 4 days to practice
which includded : Harrier attack
Tornado attack
Artillary barrage
Lynx Hel arm Atttack
Then Fifty Challengers plus Warriors then, overran and ran over anybody who was left LOL
The funny thing was the charge that simulated the harrier Attack went off a split second early, with the harrier at nearly zero feet, so it went off in front of him! boy did he curse on the radio as he pulled up hard, no harm was done and we were pissing ourselves with laughter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (staff collage demo, sennalager training area Germany May 1987) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

wyatt460
12-03-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Sturmvogel66:
Well, you dont have to pay for Target Rabaul, but I think its not that great. If you are ever willing to pay, World War 2 Online is a great choice. Ground, Sea, and Air all together on one persistant front. Its worth the monthly fee, for sure.

Rattler68
12-03-2006, 11:03 PM
Mushroom clouds are not limited to nuclear bombs. I've seen nuc-sims made from 45 gallon drums filled with diesel fuel and gasoline, detonated with C-4 in the bottom of the drum. It was my first year in the army, and not part of our exercise. No one warned us about it, and it scared the HELL out of me!<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Squadron Leader Roland Beamont No. 609 Squadron:
???We were in a wing formation, about twenty four Typhoons, when all of a sudden, one of the chaps in front of me stopped being a Typhoon and became a mass of little bits flying past.???