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MADMANofMOH
09-14-2004, 04:39 PM
it is sad that this fomidable plane is absent in the battles nowadays, replaced i spose by others. but its eclipse is a bit strange given the birds history as one to be wary of. back to the funny pages....

MAD

MADMANofMOH
09-14-2004, 04:39 PM
it is sad that this fomidable plane is absent in the battles nowadays, replaced i spose by others. but its eclipse is a bit strange given the birds history as one to be wary of. back to the funny pages....

MAD

h009291
09-14-2004, 04:42 PM
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LeChuck59
09-14-2004, 04:48 PM
Do you mean to say that you wish Yaks still flew today against modern machines or that you wish it was available on more online servers?

Assuming the latter, I'd hazard to say that it's because the Yak 3 is too good. I'm not saying it's overmodelled. I don't know enough about the real world performance of any plane to comment on such things. What I know is that it's my preferred ride in any competetive scenario because in it, I need only fear another Yak.

VW-IceFire
09-14-2004, 05:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MADMANofMOH:
it is sad that this fomidable plane is absent in the battles nowadays, replaced i spose by others. but its eclipse is a bit strange given the birds history as one to be wary of. back to the funny pages....

MAD<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are you being serious? They are fairly prevalent...what is not prevalent is the Yak-9's of which there are some good performers but people rarely fly them.

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PBNA-Boosher
09-14-2004, 06:11 PM
I fly the Yak-1b a lot. I like the way it handles, and where the 1b isn't available I fly the Yak-1.

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Covino
09-14-2004, 06:11 PM
Back in the day, 20mm cannons were just about the best you could do (disregarding the anti-tank freaks). And we didn't have ultra-armored fighters like now.

Now 30mm is the norm and we've got tough birds out there like P-38's, 47's, and D-9's. 1 20mm with limited ammo usually won't cut it anymore. That's just my opinion why they Yak-3's have been cut down a bit, not a lot though.

Yaks... can't live with em, can't live without em.

Aztek_Eagle
09-14-2004, 06:36 PM
Ho yea my good armored fw190s, i look back to the enemy begine me and wave wiht a big smile while his 88mm self propeller flack cannon's shells bounce of my plane having a face of frustation

Korolov
09-14-2004, 07:01 PM
Hmm, I don't know about armanent... 1xUBS and 1xShVak seems plenty to me.

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ZG77_Nagual
09-14-2004, 07:18 PM
three things.

1 - more people are fighting a tactically intelligent fight - less turn 'n burn.

2 - aircraft like the p47 and p51 combine the bnz tactic with with effective guns that require less precise aiming.

3 - The yaks exraordinary aerobatic ability is balanced by some twitchiness - and they tend to founder in bnz fights compared to some of the heavier planes

LuftLuver
09-14-2004, 08:29 PM
Baloney.

The most prevalent and crowded servers such as Warclouds and Birds of Prey are featuring mainly luft vs western allies. Greatergreen has some decent attendance and map rotation, but I have no idea if a Yak3 is available on any map.

The Lufties do not want to fight Russian planes and if an allied player wants a decent fight in a populated server, then u gotta go to the 3 I mentioned. You could say the axis has taken refuge in these servers.

There is a total role reversal. The once snobbish lufties who looked down their noses at Yak drivers, calling them mindless, skilless TnB'ers, are now....you guessed it: Turning and Burning down in the weeds. Hmm, isn't that odd? Even the 190s are down low sniffing around for scraps left behind by the Bs109's.

There are no more boom and zoom lufties and very few energy fighters. I wonder if TnB is still mindless?

Eagle_361st
09-14-2004, 09:10 PM
Yak-9U is the only Yak I will fly. I like the UT as well, with that big gun. But still prefer the good ole' U.

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WUAF_Badsight
09-14-2004, 11:33 PM
i wish the we could have the three 20mm 9U : ))))

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Eagle_361st
09-14-2004, 11:39 PM
Oh man me too, that would be a sweet bird indeed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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_Neveraine_
09-14-2004, 11:49 PM
What the the major differences between the yak-3 and yak-9u? Besides Armament not much i'd imagine?

TheGozr
09-15-2004, 12:14 AM
Prowar has yak's Always yaks.. Always Russian planes in a mix ..
Even the new map coming Japan vs Russia.
I'll say that PROWAR has a preference for Russians Aircrafts

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GAU-8
09-15-2004, 02:30 AM
GEEEEZE man... if i could actually find a full real server that allowed the low,an slow YAK-9 K ..

it is THE aircraft i know how to shoot from. i cannot relearn to use ANYTHING else.. ive tried http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.... but im very happy that i havent strayed off though either http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Lazy312
09-15-2004, 04:09 AM
"What the the major differences between the yak-3 and yak-9u? Besides Armament not much i'd imagine?"

Yak-3 is an excellent turner, Yak-9U is not.
Yak-3 has better visibility from cockpit.
Yak-9U is somewhat faster especially at higher alt.

IMHO Yak-3 is better.

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TheGozr
09-15-2004, 08:52 AM
http://www.french.themotorhead.com/forgotten-battles/showthread.php?s=807badb1511f9fd601912dcfdda8c3da&threadid=188

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AlexDavies
09-15-2004, 08:59 AM
there's something i just don't really like about the yak in combat. it's outclassed by the I-16, which is probably one of the only russian aircraft i fly. much prefer hurricanes, spitfire, and all the US aircraft.

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TheGozr
09-15-2004, 09:06 AM
AlexDavies
I'm sorry for you http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

btw try the server..

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Lazy312
11-03-2004, 03:26 AM
I think the main reason why 9U is so rare is it's poor high speed handling which seriously limits its combat effectiveness.

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TacticalYak3
11-03-2004, 08:54 AM
I see plenty of Yaks (presently Yak-1Bs) in my Russian offline campaign. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

NorrisMcWhirter
11-03-2004, 09:55 AM
Hi,

I used to fly the Yak3 at first (like most people) but people move on and realise the finer things in life.

It's a bit like introducing yourself to wine...You may start off with a cheap bottle of Black Tower (Yak3) but at some point you'll scoff at it and get yourself a decent bottle of Shiraz (FW190) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Also, if the 190s are down low in those servers it's because there is no point climbing as the only thing you'll find are Spitfire IXs that went into a no-overheat vertical climb a microsecond after pulling the stick back at the end of the runway before levelling off at 6k three seconds later http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers,
Norris

geetarman
11-03-2004, 10:03 AM
Norris - ouch!

Lazy312
11-03-2004, 11:07 AM
I see many successful Yak-3 and FW190 pilots online. I find both planes easy to fight with, of course their style is totally different.

Yak-9U is simply less potent fighter than both of the above.

Willey
11-03-2004, 04:20 PM
Yaks already disappeared on servers when the La-7 came with FB... that tells it all. La's better http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

WTE_Galway
11-03-2004, 05:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
i wish the we could have the three 20mm 9U : ))))
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

While a number of Yak 3 had 3 X 20 mm cannon (Yak 3P Pushechnyj and Yak 3U ) what is less commonly known is there was a Yak 3 with a 37mm cannon !!

http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/yak-3.html

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TacticalYak3
11-03-2004, 06:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NorrisMcWhirter:
Hi,

I used to fly the Yak3 at first (like most people) but people move on and realise the finer things in life.

It's a bit like introducing yourself to wine...You may start off with a cheap bottle of Black Tower (Yak3) but at some point you'll scoff at it and get yourself a decent bottle of Shiraz (FW190) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Also, if the 190s are down low in those servers it's because there is no point climbing as the only thing you'll find are Spitfire IXs that went into a no-overheat vertical climb a microsecond after pulling the stick back at the end of the runway before levelling off at 6k three seconds later http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers,
Norris <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif Take it all back mate!

NorrisMcWhirter
11-04-2004, 06:26 AM
^ hehe..which bit?

Cheers,
Norris

BigganD
11-04-2004, 06:53 AM
YakU as Yak Uber http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif just joking..

TgD Thunderbolt56
11-04-2004, 07:04 AM
You don't see the Luft-fliers B&Z'ing as much because it's not a valid escape tactic in "Western Front" servers as it was in Eastern front servers of days past. The FW and Bf simply can't outdive a jug and can't out-distance a Mustang. The breakup speed of these birds (including the Spits) has negated the tactic almost exclusively.

In real life it worked because most pilots wouldn't relinquish their altitude to chase a bandit that simply wanted to disengage.

On greatergreen, we have a number of maps that include the Yak1b to offset the G2 in early year maps and are working on a complete new set to include some of the features PF is bringing in.

Stay tuned.

TB

BigganD
11-04-2004, 07:14 AM
Well Thunderbolt56 its harder now to escape but I still bnz, using prop and out climbing the enemy (spit is hard to out climb with prop pitch)

pettera
11-04-2004, 07:34 AM
Yak is smaller than the Yak 9 making it a smaller target. It is fun to flu though.

UK-dedicated has (or had) a map with Yak 3P vs. late LW planes. However, La 7 was a safer bet.

Petter

VW-IceFire
11-04-2004, 08:01 AM
I prefer the Yak-9U over the Yak-3. Its a bit bigger, a bit tougher, and its faster overall. But yes it manuvers like a 109 at higher speeds so its a toughie in a dive. Still, I learned to compensate that and the 9U is a fun ride.

And it gets pointed out less as a "uber Russian bird" so sometimes its satisfying to fly it and still achieve a good number of kills. Low ammo count...so only a couple of planes down and then RTB.

p1ngu666
11-04-2004, 10:24 AM
i like teh 9 series over the 3 series
a 9 wid 3 20mm would be far more effective cos i cant hit with the 37mm http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

yak3 accel faster than 9, so max speed isnt a big advantage cos yak3 will pass u before that.

a 9 can handle anything but a la7 and yak3 cos there better at everything really.