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Pigeon_
08-17-2009, 08:50 AM
Has anyone read this? Was it any good?

http://books.google.nl/books?i...v=onepage&q=&f=false (http://books.google.nl/books?id=tYh24VBwW7wC&printsec=frontcover&dq=I+Was+A+P-51+Fighter+Pilot+in+WWII:+A+Collection+of+Hard-To-Find+Stories#v=onepage&q=&f=false)

Metatron_123
08-17-2009, 11:28 AM
The title is a bit misleading considering the content, looks interesting though

Jabout
08-17-2009, 12:34 PM
It could be a school child's type of book.

Waldo.Pepper
08-17-2009, 01:23 PM
It is not a very good book. It is superficial and not very detailed.


If you are looking for a good book on flying the Aircraft of the period try these.

Flying American Combat Aircraft of WW2.

http://books.google.ca/books?i...v=onepage&q=&f=false (http://books.google.ca/books?id=P0KiPMJuXkUC&dq=flying+american+combat+aircraft+of+ww2&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=bP0MWmX8Sv&sig=ZP3uIqiLnDPx6lYWgDpyc2-hgNw&hl=en&ei=GauJSti7I4-SsgPgivDUAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#v=onepage&q=&f=false)

For German aircraft - try

Wings of the Luftwaffe.

http://www.amazon.ca/Wings-Luf...-Brown/dp/1853104132 (http://www.amazon.ca/Wings-Luftwaffe-Eric-Brown/dp/1853104132)

For British aircraft -

What were they like to fly? by Squadron Leader D.H. Clarke is good but hard to find. (PM me nudge-nudge wink-wink)

If you are specifically looking for accounts of flying the P-51, I don't think that there is a person on earth who has read all the books on that aircraft.

However, I can recommend two excellent books on the P-51.

Dumb but Lucky by Richard Curtis is likely my favorite.

http://www.amazon.ca/Dumb-but-...id=1250537181&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.ca/Dumb-but-Lucky-Confessions-Fighter/dp/0345476360/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250537181&sr=1-1)

Live Bait by Kelly Gross is excellent as well. And is a tie for favorite as well! HA HA!

http://www.amazon.com/Live-Bai...id=1250536962&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Live-Bait-Memoirs-Undefeated-Fighter/dp/1592991866/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250536962&sr=8-1)

Freiwillige
08-17-2009, 02:22 PM
I can also recommend "Dumb but Lucky" I got mine from Amazon.com cheap. Great read!

Pigeon_
08-17-2009, 02:39 PM
Thanks guys!

Wasn't really looking for anything. I jkust happened to stumble upon this one. I was wondering if it's any good, because the cover doesn't look very promising.

Don't judge a book by it's cover they say. Oh well...

mortoma
08-17-2009, 07:34 PM
The worse book ever on the subject was a book called Big Friend, Little Friend by Richard E. Turner. It's mostly his memoirs on flying a Mustang in the war but has very little action in it as far as combat. He only got like 12 kills in W.W.II and later in the book he tells of his adventures flying a F-86 in Korea where he got no kills at all. His big story there was when he ran out fuel at high altitude and was able to glide dead stick back his base in South Korea and land safely....yawn!! In short a lot of blab and little excitement and I can't recommend it. It was also released under the title "Mustang Pilot".

BGs_Ricky
08-18-2009, 01:34 AM
He only got like 12 kills in W.W.II and later in the book he tells of his adventures flying a F-86 in Korea where he got no kills at all.

I think that surviving the war and getting "only" 12 kills is already an amazing feat. Maybe it's just the guy who isn't such a good writer and didn't succeed in making his story interesting.
One of my favourite WWII memoirs is one of a Hurribomber/Typhoon pilot, he had quite a lot of adventures during his pilot career, though he never saw any german plane in the air during is 3 years of flying.

Phas3e
08-18-2009, 02:14 AM
Desmond Scotts 'one more hour' is completely about what they got up to on the ground and around base during the war, and its a great read and interesting insight to what the fighter boys did on the 'off days'

Aviation books dont have to be about shooting down scores of enemy aircraft.

Nooble_savage
08-18-2009, 01:27 PM
Two other examples of Mustang memoirs are Norman J Fortier's 'An Ace of the Eighth' and George Loving's 'Woodbine Red Leader'.

Both are similar in that they give a chronological account of their respective experiences as fighter pilots, including every single mission they flew. The former book is about the ETO and describes a transition from P-47's to P-51's. I liked it. The latter book, MTO and the transition from Spits to P-51's, is a bit more dull in its writing style but could still be of interest to just about any of us WWII flight geeks here. At least I didn't regret reading it.

I have read several other WWII pilot memoirs but those are the only ones dealing with P-51's that I have read so far. One thing I have noted about these pilot memoirs, though, is that they all differ very much about the depth they go into when it comes to describing the a/c they flew. Some describe their a/c in great detail, whining about some things they didn't like, reminiscing over things they did like. While others are more like "Well, and then I got this brand new a/c called the P-51 Mustang. It was a good crate." And then they move on to describing this girl they met on R&R in great detail. It seems to be linked to personality style how they perceived flying. Although I have yet to read a pilot memoir which is as obsessed with a/c as people in this forum. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

crucislancer
08-18-2009, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by Nooble_savage:
Two other examples of Mustang memoirs are Norman J Fortier's 'An Ace of the Eighth' and George Loving's 'Woodbine Red Leader'.


I've read both, I thought they were both pretty good, but I traded "Woodbine Red Leader" for "The Big Show" with someone on M4T.

Jabout
08-19-2009, 02:25 AM
Big show is excellent

julian265
08-19-2009, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by mortoma:
The worse book ever on the subject was a book called Big Friend, Little Friend by Richard E. Turner. It's mostly his memoirs on flying a Mustang in the war but has very little action in it as far as combat. He only got like 12 kills in W.W.II and later in the book he tells of his adventures flying a F-86 in Korea where he got no kills at all. His big story there was when he ran out fuel at high altitude and was able to glide dead stick back his base in South Korea and land safely....yawn!! In short a lot of blab and little excitement and I can't recommend it. It was also released under the title "Mustang Pilot".

Sarcasm I hope.

Sillius_Sodus
08-20-2009, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by julian265:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mortoma:
The worse book ever on the subject was a book called Big Friend, Little Friend by Richard E. Turner. It's mostly his memoirs on flying a Mustang in the war but has very little action in it as far as combat. He only got like 12 kills in W.W.II and later in the book he tells of his adventures flying a F-86 in Korea where he got no kills at all. His big story there was when he ran out fuel at high altitude and was able to glide dead stick back his base in South Korea and land safely....yawn!! In short a lot of blab and little excitement and I can't recommend it. It was also released under the title "Mustang Pilot".

Sarcasm I hope. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I read that book back in high school and i still think it is a great book, I'd read it again if I could find it.

nsteense
08-21-2009, 01:15 AM
Originally posted by mortoma:
His big story there was when he ran out fuel at high altitude and was able to glide dead stick back his base in South Korea and land safely....yawn!! .

Maybe he's not the best story teller, but gliding back to base without fuel is not a straight forward act of piloting.
I'm sure he didn't thought it was boring...