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Stingray-65
10-07-2005, 02:49 PM
During one of my practice sessions, I was able to sink 6 out of 7 ships in a convoy which consisted of 5 merchants & 2 escorts (1 Hunter & 1 armed trawler) leaving just the trawler. I tried to get him too, but couldn't get away from him enough to use torpedoes. I would crash dive to 60 meters, go to silent running, ahead slow for some distance while changing directions several times, then all stop & wait... while getting contact reports from the sonar operator. I would wait for the sonar operator to loose contact over the hydrophone after last hearing warship moving away and then go to periscope depth to look around. And there it would be, almost on top of me! I did this several times getting the same results. Finally I got tired of it & surfaced the boat to duke it out with the deck gun. Well, I sank him but not before he tore a new blow hole in my hull, making it too dangerous for me to submerge.

Is this a bug or is it realistic? I never got pinged by him. I just wonder how he was always able to stay on top of me & why my sonar man couldn't keep contact on him. Is my sonar operator deaf, just inexperienced, or suffering from faulty equipment or does the hydrophone have blind spots?

Stingray-65
10-07-2005, 02:49 PM
During one of my practice sessions, I was able to sink 6 out of 7 ships in a convoy which consisted of 5 merchants & 2 escorts (1 Hunter & 1 armed trawler) leaving just the trawler. I tried to get him too, but couldn't get away from him enough to use torpedoes. I would crash dive to 60 meters, go to silent running, ahead slow for some distance while changing directions several times, then all stop & wait... while getting contact reports from the sonar operator. I would wait for the sonar operator to loose contact over the hydrophone after last hearing warship moving away and then go to periscope depth to look around. And there it would be, almost on top of me! I did this several times getting the same results. Finally I got tired of it & surfaced the boat to duke it out with the deck gun. Well, I sank him but not before he tore a new blow hole in my hull, making it too dangerous for me to submerge.

Is this a bug or is it realistic? I never got pinged by him. I just wonder how he was always able to stay on top of me & why my sonar man couldn't keep contact on him. Is my sonar operator deaf, just inexperienced, or suffering from faulty equipment or does the hydrophone have blind spots?

Kaleun1961
10-07-2005, 04:53 PM
I can't give you a definitive answer to that question, but I can make an educated guess. The hydrophone receiver is mounted forward on the U-boat, so there is a blind spot toward the rear of your boat. This is called the "baffles" in submariner's language. In the game there is a basic hydrophone and then you can upgrade to a better set. That is always the first upgrade I make. That better set can make a great difference to your tonnage, as you will be better able to hear distant ships underwater.

In campaign I always make sure to have a radio qualified guy manning the hydrophones. As for the rest of your experience, I can only guess that perhaps the computer is cheating somehow? I've noticed too sometimes how they suddenly seem to zoom right in on you. I guess their hydrophone guy is an ace too.

Maj_Solo
10-07-2005, 06:17 PM
Everybodys sonar operator is eating beef and bread and drinking diesel, I think that explains alot.....