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rick_475
10-15-2005, 05:29 PM
In the museum it says 1 or 2 racks of depth charges for destroyers, nothing really specific to me. So how many depth charges in 1 rack ?

Thanks

W.Irving
10-15-2005, 05:53 PM
Three or four I think. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rick_475
10-15-2005, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by W.Irving:
Three or four I think. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Probably more than that, also how many depth charges can a ship throw at you before it runs out of ammo? (that should have been my first question)

Kaleun1961
10-15-2005, 07:44 PM
I've had up to seven dropped on me in one pass. There are two racks at the stern, but some escorts also fire them out from the beam, to get a good pattern spread.

Nobody seems to know for sure how many they can fire at you, or if the number is finite. I've had occasions where one escort has dropped over 60 before giving up. When they team up on you, they can easily drop over a hundred.

Best bet is not count on them running out of ammo. Perhaps the computer cheats and lets them have unlimited ammo. Some feel that they are indeed limited. It can vary from one encounter to another. On my last attack, a destroyer that came after me dropped only one depth charge, so perhaps they do indeed have a limit.

RosenbauU73
10-15-2005, 07:48 PM
Hi
I think that are 60 DC plus dont know for sure but you will be luky if they run out before they kill you only one time I manage to do that and not get kill it take about 1 hour(real time) for me for that DD get out of DC´s but did survive to tell about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif but my sub was danage at 12% of hull so they have alot DC´s.

lecek
10-15-2005, 07:51 PM
AFAIK, the number of racks has to do with how many DC's can be droped at once.

Racks' drop behind ships, while throwers can shoot to the sides.

Kaleun1961
10-15-2005, 08:38 PM
My personal record is over 110 DC's dropped in an attempt to kill me. So far I have not yet run into an HK group. I've probably been killed more often by the guns of escorts, not their DC's, most often when on the surface in low visibility conditions. That is becoming less of a problem for me as well, since I am being more protective of my boat and making better use of my hydrophones.

On the rare occasion when I am killed by DC's, it is because I was careless or too daring and did not dive deeply and quickly enough. Once I'm lined up or lining up on a target and an escort detects me, I am too often tempted to press my attack anyway. It is after taking a chance to attack once detected that is most likely to get you killed.

Carotio
10-16-2005, 08:07 AM
This is theory, but I guess in WW2 each type had a specific number of ammo of different types, and SH3 is probably using this number for the game play as well. However, if playing at higher % realism, then the destoyers have more limited ammo, but doing their job much better (finding subs and dropping the DC at a more accurate spot and depth). If playing at lower % realism, then they have much more ammo, but a more limited skill of using this ammo!

I have experienced been victim to severel DC and escaped due to u boat captain skills of knowing when to turn and speed up the boat, when discovered, and suddenly after having seen lots of DC in the water using the observation scope, then there are no more DC even though the destoyer is circling around on top of you.

So I THINK that it's like renown dropping and rising according to play difficulty level!
But does anyone KNOW it?

TheRealWulfmann
10-16-2005, 01:43 PM
I have not seen any indication of a limit to DCs in any file and I have looked.
It is possible all escorts have a hard coded limit unseen in the files but my guess is there is no limit and the number of racks and if it has DCT or hedghogs means how many can be used at once.
I know the armed trawlers have dropped far more than they would have had but without something giving a specific number we are just guessing.

Wulfmann

blastomatic1759
10-17-2005, 03:52 AM
one is almost too many if it lands in the right spot. i read somewhere on here that C class dont carry depth cahrges. I had one trying to find me , and something was getting launched off his sides. (i thought hedgehogs got thrown forward) but it all worked out ok. destoyer-0 U-124-1 . and i never would have expected armed trawlers to be armed with depth charges. pfft trawlers . i was expecting some boat with trawl nets and maybe someone armed with a 22. ha!

doug.d
10-17-2005, 04:46 AM
DC's are limited but I have no idea what the numbers are or how this varies between destroyers.

A V&W DC'd me over several attack runs outside Merthyr but then, while he kept up the attack runs, he dropped nothing. I realised he was out of DC's, so with a big smile, I stopped dodging and set off at high speed towards open sea, hearing him pass over me again and again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif I laughed when I heard his screws as he made yet another approach, but got a huge shock when DC's landed on my head, giving my boat a thorough wacking! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

I thought his "dry-run" behaviour was mindless, but he was just keeping my head down with his bluffing, until a Hunt II, with a full load of DC's, could reinforce him. Having sustained serious damage from not bothering to take evasive action, I endured a life and death struggle for survival over a few hours, eventually limping away chastised but much the wiser. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

FinFury
10-17-2005, 07:12 AM
Once it seemed that v&w destroyer ran out of dc:s cause it started circkling around like an headless chicken and i couldn´t hear any voices of dc:s whit hydrofone so those dc:s are limited but like everybody else i have no clue from the number of dc:s one destroyer can have.

CRSutton
10-17-2005, 10:18 AM
In real life, it depended on the ship and the mission. IIRC DE on escort duty carried lots of DC. It is sort of what they were built for so DC storage was a priority. A fleet distroyer might carry less due to its design for multiple missions. Corvettes and PC less due to size and space restrictions.

I really do not know if this is modeled in the game, but in real life, convoy escorts fighting off multiple sub attacks frequently experienced DC shortages.

A good book is " The Good Shepherd" By C.S Forester of "Hornblower" fame.

TheRealWulfmann
10-17-2005, 12:04 PM
CClass destroyers do not start the war with DCs and this is very incorrect. The reason is before the war these racks were not carried; not needed then.
Once war broke out nearly all DD types carried some.
A fleet DD would normally carry about 40 were as the convoy escort DDs or DEs would carry about 125. Not including hedghogs (later).
Armed trawlers carried small numbers from the beginning and should have them at the war's start in SH3. The types which the SH3 are loosly based carried 30 according to Conway's
Serg made a DC mod for the C-Class, at my request. But, although I have it, I don't know if it was ever offered at a site!!! The game has DCs for the C later but they should have them at the start!
My armed trawlers also have DCs from the beginning. But, trawlers have one rack and others, Corvettes and up, have 2 racks.
Also, no sonar on armed trawlers.
To make them more dangerous I rated them all as "4" in my RND file but unless you completely ignore them they can be avoided at periscope depth.
One drawback for these elite trawlers is they are deadly accurate with their guns and can take out a peri very quickly.

Wulfmann

WilhelmSchulz.-
10-17-2005, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by blastomatic1759:
one is almost too many if it lands in the right spot. i read somewhere on here that C class dont carry depth cahrges. I had one trying to find me , and something was getting launched off his sides. (i thought hedgehogs got thrown forward) but it all worked out ok. destoyer-0 U-124-1 . and i never would have expected armed trawlers to be armed with depth charges. pfft trawlers . i was expecting some boat with trawl nets and maybe someone armed with a 22. ha! Yes Hegehogs got thrown fowerd. What you saw was the Y gun going off and the DC's sailing into the water.
The most comon pattern used(at least this should of bin the most comon) was 1 from the rack, 2 from the Y gun or K gun(witchever the DD had) and 1 from the rack at the same time, then 1 from the rack. The pattern looks like a dimiond.

Kaleun1961
10-17-2005, 01:28 PM
Wulf, some of your trawlers have shot up my scope while I was looking at them.

Is your rnd file compatible with Real U-boat? I'm wondering what the difference is between yours and RUb's? If I install yours over Rub, what is altered?