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Taylortony
09-11-2006, 01:48 PM
And to kick it off after having watched it again on Sky TV the other night,

SGT York

Cracking story line, based on fact, full of get up and go, played excellently by Gary Cooper and just filled to the gunnels with a true hero action, minor love interest and a factual tale to boot..........

Hardest person to cast would be his Mother...... I do not where they dragged her up from, but she just soooo fitted the part to make it real..

That would make an Epic film today......


But who to play Sgt York?

Taylortony
09-11-2006, 01:48 PM
And to kick it off after having watched it again on Sky TV the other night,

SGT York

Cracking story line, based on fact, full of get up and go, played excellently by Gary Cooper and just filled to the gunnels with a true hero action, minor love interest and a factual tale to boot..........

Hardest person to cast would be his Mother...... I do not where they dragged her up from, but she just soooo fitted the part to make it real..

That would make an Epic film today......


But who to play Sgt York?

MEGILE
09-11-2006, 01:52 PM
Ralph Fiennes.

I digress.

thefruitbat
09-11-2006, 01:53 PM
I think i read in one of my books, that he asked for Gary Cooper to play him.

cheers fruitbat

AWL_Spinner
09-11-2006, 02:10 PM
Fed up to the back teeth with remakes if you ask me (which I suppose you did, sort of http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )

Get a new script and leave the classics alone!

F6_Ace
09-11-2006, 02:12 PM
^ Agreed. Perhaps you should ask for a list of films that shouldn't be remade...

Like 'The Wicker Man', 'The Ring' and 'Get Carter' for starters.

HayateAce
09-11-2006, 02:15 PM
Kelly's Heroes and Battle of the Bulge

http://www.happydeathinc.com/bowling/Pictures/telly.jpg

AWL_Spinner
09-11-2006, 02:18 PM
Not to mention the Italian Job, Psycho, Planet of the Apes, The Pink Panther, Godzilla, the list goes on..

Cheap lazy filmmaking. Get some originality.

Sorry for the OT drift http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Daiichidoku
09-11-2006, 02:19 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/Daiichidoku/hillbillyblitz.jpg

steve_v
09-11-2006, 02:19 PM
http://www.worldpath.net/~nickjg/fark/pearlharbor2.jpg

stanford-ukded
09-11-2006, 02:49 PM
http://www.cruise****et.com/Images/pete/stuff/segal.jpg

Jagdgeschwader2
09-11-2006, 03:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stanford-ukded:
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Wow! Segal edition [img]http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif Where can I get that? I think that Battle of the Bulge does need to be remade. I love that part where the 55 gallon drum of gas blows up the fake King Tiger. All that work spent on tank development and we could have just lobbed drums of burning fuel at them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s.jpg

Bearcat99
09-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Alls Quiet on the Western Front

The Blue Max

The Battle of Britain

Midway

Soylent Green

Tora Tora Tora

I know that there are upcoming versions in the genre of some of the movies I picked... like Flyboys and The Few.. but I would like to see remakes of those films.. and a few from books that havent been done yet.....


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0385503385.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Brothers in Arms (http://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Arms-Battalion-Forgotten-Heroes/dp/0385503385/sr=1-2/qid=1158010444/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-7022539-0161411?ie=UTF8&s=books)
Last I heard Morgan Freeman & Kareem Abdul Jabbar were colaborating on bringing this to celuloid.


http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/6304021623.01._AA280_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Red Ball Express (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045072/)


Red Ball ExPress (http://www.fatherryan.org/blackmilitary/redball.htm)

Daiichidoku
09-11-2006, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bearcat99:
Alls Quiet on the Western Front
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

also known as "nothing new on the western front" was actually already re-made in 1978, in a made-for-TV movie starring "john-boy" walton..whatever his name was...it totally sucked

IMO, these great films should NOT be remade...what made them great in the first place STILL makes them great, and timeless

better to remake the ****, like pearl harbour, or U-571, and turn em into something worth the time and $$ to see, not degrade something that wasnt "broken" in the first place

DuxCorvan
09-11-2006, 04:16 PM
Yep, you're right. Great films need not to be remade. Why would someone want to have 'Sgt. York' remade? Because it is old? Come on, it is perfect as it is.

I'd say what Daiichidoku says: don't remake good films, remake the bad ones and make them good. Nowadays, they're doing just the other way round -making fresh cr*p of old good stuff.

I'd like to have a good adaptation of Walter Scott's "Quentin Durward", in a credible 15th century France, and not that sh*tty thing with ballet tights and 'Star Trek suits' that Robert Taylor made in the 50s. They should have burned Hollywood only for that film.

Rjel
09-11-2006, 04:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
IMO, these great films should NOT be remade...what made them great in the first place STILL makes them great, and timeless
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There's a great tag line that is used between fims on Turner Classic Movies that sums it up best for me -

"There are no old movies, just movies you haven't seen yet."

Too many people dismiss a film because it's B/W. What a shame to miss out on hundreds of classic films because they don't sport the latest in computer generated graphics or feature someone's idea of a modern day "star"

HayateAce
09-11-2006, 05:10 PM
...and pack it to the rafters with big hollywood stars. Second vote for more burning fuel drums.

http://www.toyadz.com/toyadz/movies/battleofthebulge1.jpg

Fox_3
09-11-2006, 05:20 PM
I'd like to see a remake of Fantastic Voyage.

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-11-2006, 06:01 PM
I think an updated version of Patton would be good. I would love to see a movie based on **** Bong or of coarse the Black Sheep.

LStarosta
09-11-2006, 06:40 PM
Top Gun, this time with more homoerotic volleyball action.

hotspace
09-11-2006, 06:44 PM
Debbie does Dallas...........I mean, it's soooooo 70's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bearcat99
09-11-2006, 06:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
also known as "nothing new on the western front" was actually already re-made in 1978, in a made-for-TV movie starring "john-boy" walton..whatever his name was...it totally sucked

IMO, these great films should NOT be remade...what made them great in the first place STILL makes them great, and timeless

better to remake the ****, like pearl harbour, or U-571, and turn em into something worth the time and $$ to see, not degrade something that wasnt "broken" in the first place </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didnt see the film you are referring to.... but I disagree with your overall premise.... I think that remakes should just not change the story... unless of course new facts are available.... dispite the love story.. I think Titanic was a better film than A Night To Remember.... I think the remake of Cape Fear was an EXCELLENT remake.... and the original was a great film..... I think the remake of King Kong was also another example of a good remake.... it stuck to the story and used modern technology to tell the same story better... the sets.. the cinematography... the effects of course..... the costumes..... it was all better.. but it was a decent remake because it didnt stray from the original but so much.

You of course are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.....

Daiichidoku
09-11-2006, 08:13 PM
tehre are some remakes that indeed, surpass the originals, Bearcat, i agree

but these are far and few in between, lets face it....a fraction of remakes are even remotely as good as the originals


i dont know where you are getting about changing any stories though....i didnt say that, did i?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



i wont even start a list of films that hollywood has butchered, its far too long a list

Zeus-cat
09-11-2006, 08:23 PM
Hotspace beat me to it with my original recommendation.

Battle of the Bulge could be remade. The original was badly acted and just silly in parts.

Bridge on the River Kwai is horribly inaccurate, but the acting puts it up there as something that would be hard to make better.

I also think Patton could be remade, but it would be hard to find someone who could do a better job that George C Scott.

Why remake U-571? It was fiction, and bad fiction. Throw all available copies in some depth charges and fling them overboard.

Rjel
09-11-2006, 09:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Zeus-cat:
Battle of the Bulge could be remade. The original was badly acted and just silly in parts.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I could recommend a pretty good Battle of the Bulge movie it would be "Battleground". Directed by William Wellman, it follows a squad of GIs from the 101st Airborne thru out the battle. It follows history pretty well (I think) and stars a lot of actors you will recognize. Best of all, it shows the battle in a winter setting, something "Battle of the Bulge" seemed to have forgotten.

Bearcat99
09-11-2006, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
i dont know where you are getting about changing any stories though....i didnt say that, did i?http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wasnt saying that you said that.. I was saying that when remakes are done... any remakes... IMO they work out best when the original story is maintained.. unledss as I said there are new facts. Again.. as an example King Kong... out of the 3 Hollywood remakes of Kong... he last one was the best one by far... because it was a true remake.... of the original.. same timeframe and all...... not like that silly one froim the 80s.. oir that other unforgettable bomb. Thats what I meant..... and I do thing that AQOTWF.. if done right... would be a great remake.... I think we need to revisit WWI....

Tater-SW-
09-11-2006, 10:22 PM
I think remakes are fine as a general concept. Take a movie based upon a book, the movie itself is a "remake" of the book. The first movie might suck, even though the book was great. Some movies are more original and/or iconic, and you can remake them, but at your own peril. The remake(s) of Casablanca are a case in point. OTOH, the TV version of Dune, even if lacking, was far far superior to the movie of the same name.

Here';s one on topic:

I'd love to see a movie of Starship Troopers. That AWFUL movie they did (as bad as Pearl Harbor within its genre) had nothing at all to do with the book, and in fact, they removed the coolest parts---that would have been totally possible with modern special effects, AND far more interesting than what they did.

tater

Scharnhorst1943
09-11-2006, 10:36 PM
I would like to see a remake of "Sink the Bismark." It is in B/W, but even then is fairly historically inaccurate. Today we know alot more about what happened and could tell it more accurately with really awesome CG effects. However, I must add that with the greatest CG, you can have a movie that really sucks balls with bad acting.

I also dissagree about remaking "Patton." George C. Scott is as big a S.O.B. as Patton was. No one <span class="ev_code_RED">BUT</span> George C. Scott could pull off that role.

CAF96th_Sillyak
09-12-2006, 12:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I think an updated version of Patton would be good. I would love to see a movie based on **** Bong or of coarse the Black Sheep. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

what was wrong with the first patton?

R_Target
09-12-2006, 12:47 AM
It'd be nice if they used CGI to update Patton with the real tanks that were used.

WOLFMondo
09-12-2006, 02:23 AM
I hate remakes.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
Kelly's Heroes and Battle of the Bulge

http://www.happydeathinc.com/bowling/Pictures/telly.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Remaking Kellys Heroes would be a flop. The actors were perfect for the roles.

stathem
09-12-2006, 02:32 AM
Barbarella.

Anyone want to kick of recommendations for the Jane Fonda role?

AWL_Spinner
09-12-2006, 03:07 AM
I agree with Daiichidoku, name one or two good remakes (and yes, there are a couple) and I can show you ten or twenty lame ones, or worse. On the whole, I think it's a detrimental activity.

I can't see anything wrong with Kelly's Heroes, Patton or Bridge on the River Kwai. Remaking them would just serve to update the acting cast with less able counterparts. Where Eagles Dare would be another example. Why would you want to replace Burton and Eastwood?

I agree that there's a huge stock of wonderful films that no-one watches these days because they're deemed "old" and the industry only deals in "new". I think it's a little patronising to thing that the current generation are unable to appreciate the older media, it's just that it's practically airbrushed out of existence by the industry.

I LOVE watching old black and white movies, they're a window into how that generation approached events and, without the aid of whiz-bang CGI cheese and huge budgets, often present a story based solely upon acting and script, which seems largely to have been forgotten in these days of attention-deficit cinema.

Why is this affliction related primarily to film? Old books are often revered and regularly republished in their original state. Imagine the outcry if someone rewrote "Lord of the Rings" every ten years to reflect current societal trends.

Tater-SW-, regarding Starship Troopers - whilst it's true that on the surface it may appear just a dumb actioner, there is some clever comment in there about militarised culture, propaganda and the media which are quite relevant in today's world. It's worth ten Pearl Harbours (mind you, so is my toilet paper so that's not saying much). But that's an OT to this OT http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

mattinen
09-12-2006, 04:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
Top Gun, this time with more homoerotic volleyball action. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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smokincrater
09-12-2006, 05:56 AM
Forget fellas you will never see films like the Battle of Britian and that ilk ever again. First the aircaft are vintage meaning they are so expensive no one will insure them.
Second to get all the big names in one picture without the egos and without the huge pay packets is impossible(they are exceptions which I will come to).
Thirdly and most importantly the film studios would not be interested in telling the stories of Battles anyone. Its got to have love story or something that totally pisses off the war buffs and the war stuff annoys everyone else.

Mind you Mars Attacks by Tim Burton had a big name cast and all the big names die in it.

smokincrater
09-12-2006, 05:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mattinen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by LStarosta:
Top Gun, this time with more homoerotic volleyball action. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Deary Me!!!!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Vanderstok
09-12-2006, 06:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
I hate remakes.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HayateAce:
Kelly's Heroes and Battle of the Bulge

http://www.happydeathinc.com/bowling/Pictures/telly.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Remaking Kellys Heroes would be a flop. The actors were perfect for the roles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif Don't touch Kelly's Heroes! It's perfect as it is.

However.... Why not make a decent film about the flying tigers? Should be perfect for a script. I believe the 1942 (John Wayne) version has it all completely wrong....

Tater-SW-
09-12-2006, 06:58 AM
Spinner, Starship troopers was an abomination, and I saw no useful comment whatsever in it, particularly given the way the same material was handled in the book. It was every bit as awful as Pearl Harbor, if not worse (to me, anyway). YMMV.

tater

AWL_Spinner
09-12-2006, 07:00 AM
Fair enough, maybe I was blinded by Denise Richard's assets.

DuxCorvan
09-12-2006, 07:17 AM
And then we have the remakes -good or bad, it does not matter- that are a complete waste of time and money. I mean: Hitchcock's "Psycho". Why they did a 'remake'? It was an exact clone of the original. It was the SAME movie, the same screenplay, every scene was cloned, only they didn't have Perkins's genial Norman Bates. That movie was done YET. Why doing it again? Because it was B&W? But it was better in B&W! If you're gonna film a remake, at least don't COPY the original. It is done yet, and you can only make it worse.

Tater-SW-
09-12-2006, 08:16 AM
OK, that WAS a redeeming component--even a stopped watch is right twice a day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

tater

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-12-2006, 08:26 AM
You know, just once I'd like to park my arse in front of the telly on Boxing Day and see Steve McQueen make it over that last bit of wire on the motor-bike. Just once. Is it too much to ask? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

ploughman
09-12-2006, 08:41 AM
Funnily enough, I just finished watching The Warlover on Beeb 2 and he doesn't make it over the cliffs neither. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

Worf101
09-12-2006, 08:43 AM
Remakes... errrr.
Too few are decent, most are no talent hatchet jobs... The remakes of "Psycho" and "The Omen" stand out to me as absolute wastes of celluloid and money. I just don't get it. "King Kong" was "alright" but too few others worth mentioning. Leave the originals alone... I'm surprised no one's decided to remake "Gone With The Wind" or any of those other staples.

Da Worfster

panther3485
09-12-2006, 08:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
You know, just once I'd like to park my arse in front of the telly on Boxing Day and see Steve McQueen make it over that last bit of wire on the motor-bike. Just once. Is it too much to ask? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From my POV, if someone's gonna do a remake of 'The Great Escape', then far better to do one that's actually somewhere near historically accurate.

Yeah, yeah, I know the original was an entertaining, commercially successful piece of movie-making that is fondly remembered with nostalgia by many, and still enjoyed today.

fordfan25
09-12-2006, 08:52 AM
ww2 movies- midway and black sheep.
nonww2 movies- pearl harbor LMFAO ,

Chuck_Older
09-12-2006, 09:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by stathem:
Barbarella.

Anyone want to kick of recommendations for the Jane Fonda role? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You mean as a traitor, or just as a hot chick in a cellophane dress? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

They could get Simon le Bon to play Duran Duran. That would be a hoot. Kitana Baker could play Barbarella. I'm all for this actually. I vote your post Post of the Month

Chuck_Older
09-12-2006, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
You know, just once I'd like to park my arse in front of the telly on Boxing Day and see Steve McQueen make it over that last bit of wire on the motor-bike. Just once. Is it too much to ask? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be fun. Did you know McQueen played the German on the bike as well, during the chase?

I'd like to see the final scene in the Sand Pebbles in which McQueen lives. According to the story, McQueen put up such a fuss about his character dying that they filmed an alternate ending just to shut him up

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-12-2006, 10:16 AM
Yep, knew about him playing the German. The Sand Pebbles much underrated IMHO - loved the way he talked to the engine. Didn't know about the alternative ending. I'd like to see it, too.

panther3485
09-12-2006, 10:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
The Sand Pebbles much underrated IMHO - loved the way he talked to the engine. Didn't know about the alternative ending. I'd like to see it, too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, I agree. A very under-rated movie and one of my favourites.

Chuck_Older
09-12-2006, 10:24 AM
They should never remake the Sand Pebbles. Too obscure a film and so on...but more importantly they'd have to find somebody cooler than Steve McQueen. No actor today is cooler than McQueen. Would Ben pukeAffleckpuke drive his car into a tree on purpose, just to get out of a TV contract and go make a film? Not bloody likely! Would Ashton Kutcher jump barbed wire fences on a motorcylce? Bah! He'd get a stunt double to play catch!

panther3485
09-12-2006, 10:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
They should never remake the Sand Pebbles. Too obscure a film and so on...but more importantly they'd have to find somebody cooler than Steve McQueen. No actor today is cooler than McQueen. Would Ben pukeAffleckpuke drive his car into a tree on purpose, just to get out of a TV contract and go make a film? Not bloody likely! Would Ashton Kutcher jump barbed wire fences on a motorcylce? Bah! He'd get a stunt double to play catch! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed. As one of my favourite movies, I would definitely NOT like to see a re-make.

In fact, with a few exceptions, if it's a movie I thought was really good, I have mostly not liked re-makes and generally do not approve of the concept.

On the other hand, if it's a movie I didn't like to begin with, I'd hardly care anyway. And if it's something that was thought by many to have been done badly the first time, there should be little to lose, and perhaps much to gain, by trying again. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Scharnhorst1943
09-12-2006, 12:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
They should never remake the Sand Pebbles. Too obscure a film and so on...but more importantly they'd have to find somebody cooler than Steve McQueen. No actor today is cooler than McQueen. Would Ben pukeAffleckpuke drive his car into a tree on purpose, just to get out of a TV contract and go make a film? Not bloody likely! Would Ashton Kutcher jump barbed wire fences on a motorcylce? Bah! He'd get a stunt double to play catch! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif
There <span class="ev_code_GREEN">IS</span> no one cooler than Steve McQueen! Not even Sean Connery or Harrison Ford comes close! Steve McQueen is the ultimate manbeast.

F6_Ace
09-12-2006, 12:37 PM
Steve Buscemi is cooler than Steve McQueen.

John_Pimlott
09-12-2006, 12:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F6_Ace:
Steve Buscemi is cooler than Steve McQueen. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Granted. But nobody else is.

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-12-2006, 01:00 PM
I am. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Chuck_Older
09-12-2006, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by F6_Ace:
Steve Buscemi is cooler than Steve McQueen. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sure, but McQueen's been dead some time. Buscemi still pumps blood through his talentless heart

Or are you not speaking of skin temperature?

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-12-2006, 01:23 PM
There are some great stories from the time Keith Moon was living in the beach house next door to McQueen. McQueen literally ended up drawing a line in the sand according to some accounts.

Daiichidoku
09-12-2006, 01:26 PM
i would submit that Ann Margaret, or Maria Schneider, or Catherine Deneuve was WAY cooler than McQueen, or Buscemi, or any of those guys

youre all phaegs http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

F6_Ace
09-12-2006, 01:30 PM
McQueen was alright in 'The Blob' but it was all downhill from there. After all, McQueen was out-acted by a Ford Mustang in Bullitt - that's hardly something to be proud of http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

John_Wayne_
09-12-2006, 01:36 PM
Woulda liked to have seen that n00b take the car jump over an open London Tower Bridge like I did in Brannigan.

Chuck_Older
09-12-2006, 01:43 PM
McQueen would have really been in the car, Duke

BillyTheKid_22
09-12-2006, 01:53 PM
Howdy!!!!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif BATTLE OF THE BULGE and KELLY'S HEROES!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

F6_Ace
09-12-2006, 02:00 PM
Nah, leave Kelly's Heroes alone.

I only recently realised why Kelly's Heroes was so good - it was penned by Troy Kennedy Martin who was also responsible for such gems as 'The Italian Job' (craply remade), Edge of Darkness and also had some involvement with The Sweeney.

Then again, he did write 'Red Heat'

Low_Flyer_MkVb
09-12-2006, 02:13 PM
And another thing - 'Tom Horn' was a darn fine western. Another underrated gem.

Good point about 'The Italian Job', too F6-Ace - should be held up as a warning about the dangers of tinkering with the classics. 'The Sweeny' - trend setter, or what? Well apart from that dodgy episode with Morecambe & Wise in it...

"Get yer trousers on...you're nicked."

VMF-214_HaVoK
09-12-2006, 02:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CAF96th_Sillyak:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
I think an updated version of Patton would be good. I would love to see a movie based on **** Bong or of coarse the Black Sheep. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

what was wrong with the first patton? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nothing. I would like to see it with todays tech is all. Band of Brothers style.

F6_Ace
09-12-2006, 03:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
And another thing - 'Tom Horn' was a darn fine western. Another underrated gem.

Good point about 'The Italian Job', too F6-Ace - should be held up as a warning about the dangers of tinkering with the classics. 'The Sweeny' - trend setter, or what? Well apart from that dodgy episode with Morecambe & Wise in it...

"Get yer trousers on...you're nicked." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed - series 4 wasn't quite up to scratch (I think the M&W one was late on in that series) but I think it's mainly not so good because the brown 3 litre grannie isn't in it so often http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Just going through all 4 series on DVD now - absolutely classic TV.

"We're the Sweeney, son, and we haven't had any dinner...so unless you want a kicking"

"You just want to squeeze her toothpaste George"

"Brenda - if your family had a coat of arms it would have crossed jemmys on it"

I think they're thinking of making a Sweeney remake, too.....I just wish "they'd" leave things alone instead of going for 'safe bets' that are cr*p but which get bums on seats for little or no effort whatsoever.

Rjel
09-12-2006, 05:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
McQueen would have really been in the car, Duke </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have always been a big fan of Steve McQueen. His cool tough guy persona overshadows the fact that the man just plain knew how to act.

One of his stuntman buddies has claimed several times that he did a lot of the driving in Bullitt, wearing a Steve McQueen mask. I hope that isn't true. I'm sure most of you have seen it by now, but after watching the great chase scene, God knows how many time, it's disapointing to realize how much of it is spliced together. So many shots are shown from multiple angles so that after a bit you notice the same cars passing by. Still, it's great watching and hearing the big V8 Mustang and Charger getting worked hard.

wayno7777
09-12-2006, 08:59 PM
Von Ryan's Express without Me 108's....

horseback
09-12-2006, 09:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
You know, just once I'd like to park my arse in front of the telly on Boxing Day and see Steve McQueen make it over that last bit of wire on the motor-bike. Just once. Is it too much to ask? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From my POV, if someone's gonna do a remake of 'The Great Escape', then far better to do one that's actually somewhere near historically accurate.

Yeah, yeah, I know the original was an entertaining, commercially successful piece of movie-making that is fondly remembered with nostalgia by many, and still enjoyed today. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I seem to recall that 'The Great Escape' was a remake, or rather, an Americanization based on a British film; I saw the original many years ago, and frankly, except for the parts where Bader was raising hell with the Germans, it wasn't that memorable.

Great films are rarely done again right, and good films are rarely re-done as well as the original. There are books I'd love to see done as a mini-series (even then, you're looking at a severe compression of the author's work), but few that would be recognizable to someone who had read the book as a two or even three hour movie.

I think re-makes of the bad ones may be the best option of all, if the producers and money men of Hollywood can't wrap their tiny imaginations around original concepts, and 'Pearl Harbor' sans Ben Affleck and the phony USAAF fighter pilot who goes to Britain and shows 'em how it's done and returns just in time to blow a few Zeros out of the sky and then joins Doolittle for the Tokyo raid (he's a fighter pilot, dammit!) seems a good place to start.

Just stick with the story of Welch and Taylor, with a clear statement that America started getting ready for WWII with less than world class equipment or training, and still wasn't ready for almost 18 months after the starting bell rang...

And Tater, I agree with you about 'Starship Troopers'-but I read the book, and I suspect that was why they waited for the Heinleins to die before they made the movie. Even in their twilight years, Robert & Virginia Heinlein woulda kicked Paul Voerhaven's butt.

Still, it would be cool to see 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress' or 'Glory Road' done as mini series.

cheers

horseback

heywooood
09-12-2006, 10:02 PM
Kellys Heroes is not to be touched- thanks.

The Dolittle Raid
In Harms Way
Tora Tora Tora
Midway
Guadalcanal Diary
A Bridge too Far
Fighter Squadron

...this time with the real stories, told honestly and close to the bone - not 'embellished' (and with better actors.)

Dawn Patrol - both a remake and a re-release of the Errol Flynn version for DVD

WWI and WWII films remade in High Def. wide screen format with good audio for the home theaters we have now would be a huge deal.

leitmotiv
09-13-2006, 12:40 AM
BAMBI, POLLYANNA, and BORN FREE starring wolverines.

panther3485
09-13-2006, 01:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by horseback:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:
From my POV, if someone's gonna do a remake of 'The Great Escape', then far better to do one that's actually somewhere near historically accurate.
Yeah, yeah, I know the original was an entertaining, commercially successful piece of movie-making that is fondly remembered with nostalgia by many, and still enjoyed today. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I seem to recall that 'The Great Escape' was a remake, or rather, an Americanization based on a British film; I saw the original many years ago, and frankly, except for the parts where Bader was raising hell with the Germans, it wasn't that memorable.

cheers

horseback </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Hmmmm yes, I can remember the movie 'Reach For the Sky' about Bader's life and in that, he gives the Germans a bit of curry while he's in POW camp. I also remember a different early British B&W movie depicting the events on which the later movie, 'The Great Escape', was very loosely based. I think it may have been called 'The Wooden Horse' or something along those lines? Or maybe I'm confusing this with another movie? Some of these early British films were less than completely successful because they tended to be rather too 'turgid' and 'stiff-upper-lipped' for wider audiences - rather than because of historical considerations.

Anyway, guess what I'm really saying is, it's possible for a movie to be both entertaining/memorable and reasonably close to historically correct. I don't subscribe to the myth that large doses of studio-created bull, blatant twisting of or embellishments to history, are necessary just to make a movie successful. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

But based on the high percentage of slack-jawed, bull$hit laced, soapy pap we've seen over the last several decades, some of the 'Movie Moguls' appear to believe otherwise.


Best regards, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
panther3485

Rjel
09-13-2006, 06:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:
...I also remember a different early British B&W movie depicting the events on which the later movie, 'The Great Escape', was very loosely based. I think it may have been called 'The Wooden Horse' or something along those lines? Or maybe I'm confusing this with another movie? Some of these early British films were less than completely successful because they tended to be rather too 'turgid' and 'stiff-upper-lipped' for wider audiences - rather than because of historical considerations....
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The movie you mentioned is the correct title - The Wooden Horse. It was made in 1950. Considering movies had been around for more than 50 years at that point, not exactly an "early" movie. By that time movie making was a rather refined industry. Or maybe I'm just getting old too...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

panther3485
09-13-2006, 06:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:
...I also remember a different early British B&W movie depicting the events on which the later movie, 'The Great Escape', was very loosely based. I think it may have been called 'The Wooden Horse' or something along those lines? Or maybe I'm confusing this with another movie? Some of these early British films were less than completely successful because they tended to be rather too 'turgid' and 'stiff-upper-lipped' for wider audiences - rather than because of historical considerations....
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The movie you mentioned is the correct title - The Wooden Horse. It was made in 1950. Considering movies had been around for more than 50 years at that point, not exactly an "early" movie. By that time movie making was a rather refined industry. Or maybe I'm just getting old too...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's not what I meant. I meant 'early' as far as movies about WW2 subjects are concerned.

And, while I don't know your age, I'm not exactly 'young' myself! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Best regards, http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
panther3485

Chuck_Older
09-13-2006, 07:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
McQueen would have really been in the car, Duke </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have always been a big fan of Steve McQueen. His cool tough guy persona overshadows the fact that the man just plain knew how to act.

One of his stuntman buddies has claimed several times that he did a lot of the driving in Bullitt, wearing a Steve McQueen mask. I hope that isn't true. I'm sure most of you have seen it by now, but after watching the great chase scene, God knows how many time, it's disapointing to realize how much of it is spliced together. So many shots are shown from multiple angles so that after a bit you notice the same cars passing by. Still, it's great watching and hearing the big V8 Mustang and Charger getting worked hard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Neither car would have survived if it was all the same car!

A guy wearing a Steve McQueen mask...I dunno...certainly McQueen's ego would have required it if true, but that sounds fishy. Somebody had to have made the mask, so this story should be verifiable. But whether or not Steve was in 100% or 10% of the driving scenes, the guy was a race car driver and daredevil motorcyclist

I contend that the Chrager would have beat the Mustang. The Ford just would never have held together. My Pop had a '65 Mustang, and it was a piece of junk. It needed three manual transmissions before I was born in '71! I've had automatic trannys that worked fine after 25 years, behind engines with twice the torque they were designed for. Pretty car, but that Mustang was not a quality car

Breeze147
09-13-2006, 07:27 AM
Historical Accuracy blahblahblah

DAMMITT!!! THAT GERMAN SOLDIER, 4TH FROM THE LEFT, HIS SHOULDER PATCH IS WRONG!!!!!!OMG!!!!!!WTF!!!!!!!BBQ!!!!!!!!

Some movies just plain suck and should be forgotten. Big Red One and Battle Of The Bulge leap to mind. Why would anyone want to remake The Battle Of The Bulge? That movie was so terrible, why not start with a BRAND NEW Battle Of The Bulge?

Why do people go off the deep end over Pearl Harbor? That movie was awful, made by a pack Hollywood rich kids. You could tell that in the first 30 seconds. It was actually hilarious in many parts. I think it was intended to be a comedy, sort of a reverse Springtime For Hitler.

Don't touch my Bridge On The River Kwai. Bill Holden, Alec Guiness, Sessue Hayakawa, Jack Hawkins, et al are dead. They CAN'T be replaced!!!

12 O'Clock High without Gregory Peck? The Great Escape without Steve McQueen?

The Longest Day. At the top Pointe du Hoc. A German soldier pops out of a bunker and pleads, "Bitte!" A GI guns him down. The GI turns to his Sergeant. "Hey Sarge, what does Bitte mean?" Classic.

Don't mess with the classics. MAKE NEW MOVIES BASED ON ORIGINAL SCRIPTS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE HISTORICAL INACCUARCIES, PETITION THE PRODUCERS BEFORE OR DURING PRODUCTION!!!

See, most of you guys are so hung up on technicalities, you spend days on end making charts about the roll rate of the Bf-109. Why can you not come down from your intellectual tower and just enjoy a QUALITY film?

Okay, I'm done. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

Chuck_Older
09-13-2006, 07:33 AM
Oh, good news! I found your pills

Scharnhorst1943
09-13-2006, 08:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Oh, good news! I found your pills </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


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Scharnhorst1943
09-13-2006, 08:15 AM
Hey Chuck, about those pills you found ...

Were they <span class="ev_code_RED">RED</span> pills or <span class="ev_code_BLUE">BLUE</span> pills? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Daiichidoku
09-13-2006, 09:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
Historical Accuracy blahblahblah

Some movies just plain suck and should be forgotten </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm yea...take the BLUE pill, then
re-read the thread dude..most ppl seem to think that
these **** movies are the best to be remade

either they will be turned into a GOOD product, or they will again be lousy, in which case, NO LOSS


as for historical accuracy....yea, many are concerned about it, but IMO not "hung up" on it to the extent you say...most dont care about a shoulder patch or two here in there

but **** like rocket-firing me108 taifuns in "von ryans express" standing in for 109s, that could never fire rockets is nonsense.....

super71957
09-13-2006, 10:10 AM
My remakes;

Pearl Harbor- Could be much better
The Flying Tigers-With modern CG,nice
Battle of the Bulge-Again with modern techniques

Leave these alone;
The Great Escape-You can"t replace Garner,McQueen,Attenborough,Bronson,etc.
Murphy"s War-A Classic,almost as good as the above.
The Enemy Below-Robert Mitchum,can"t replace him
Tora,Tora,Tora-Pretty darn good for it"s time
Dirty Dozen-A Classic,great storyline,great actors.
Just to many to list!My take on it tho.
Craig http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Chuck_Older
09-13-2006, 10:17 AM
There are at least two Flying Tigers movies in pre-production right now, but neither of them should be called remakes of the Flying Tigers film with John Wayne

The John Wayne film was very odd and quite wrong. Wayne was friends with Tex Hill, by the way

At least one of the crew in pre-production of one of these films has been over at the Flying Tigers' website and asking for help from real Flying Tigers, which is a good sign

Daiichidoku
09-13-2006, 10:45 AM
WHICH flying tigers?

many consider the original 1st AVG the one and only flying tigers, as the moniker was later attached to a USAAC sqd, or grp, after AVG was dissolved

Breeze147
09-13-2006, 04:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Oh, good news! I found your pills </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's hilarious. How do you know I'm not on pills? It's an insult to everyone who must take medication to control emotional problems and attempt to live a somewhat normal life.

You are a jerk, Chuck, always have been, always will be. I don't care how many pats on the back you get for your second rate campaign.

That's about the third or fourth time you've gotten off an insult at my expense. You are a very funny person.

Breeze147
09-13-2006, 04:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Breeze147:
Historical Accuracy blahblahblah

Some movies just plain suck and should be forgotten </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm yea...take the BLUE pill, then
re-read the thread dude..most ppl seem to think that
these **** movies are the best to be remade

either they will be turned into a GOOD product, or they will again be lousy, in which case, NO LOSS


as for historical accuracy....yea, many are concerned about it, but IMO not "hung up" on it to the extent you say...most dont care about a shoulder patch or two here in there

but **** like rocket-firing me108 taifuns in "von ryans express" standing in for 109s, that could never fire rockets is nonsense..... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You don't even have the slightest inkling as to where I am coming from. I don't know why I continue to make attempts at humor, dude. Ignorant dolts like you just don't get it. Take a flying leap into hell, you jerk.

Dude.

Taylortony
09-13-2006, 05:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by horseback:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by panther3485:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Low_Flyer_MkVb:
You know, just once I'd like to park my arse in front of the telly on Boxing Day and see Steve McQueen make it over that last bit of wire on the motor-bike. Just once. Is it too much to ask? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

From my POV, if someone's gonna do a remake of 'The Great Escape', then far better to do one that's actually somewhere near historically accurate.

QUOTE]I seem to recall that 'The Great Escape' was a remake, or rather, an Americanization based on a British film;

cheers

horseback </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Naaaa wouldn't of be a British original, by the time we had got through the planning departments, the several public enquiries and the peace protesters, on top of that the Health and safety committees.... the war would have been over many a year ago..



The Sink the Bismark I gotta adnmit sounds sweet and as for the Battle of Britain comment , not enough planes etc surviving.... CG will soon take care of that in the future.... look at Brandon Lee in the Crow......... he died 1/2 way through the shooting..... err ans that is not meant to be a pun and CG replaced him ok

wayno7777
09-13-2006, 09:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Rjel:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
McQueen would have really been in the car, Duke </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have always been a big fan of Steve McQueen. His cool tough guy persona overshadows the fact that the man just plain knew how to act.

One of his stuntman buddies has claimed several times that he did a lot of the driving in Bullitt, wearing a Steve McQueen mask. I hope that isn't true. I'm sure most of you have seen it by now, but after watching the great chase scene, God knows how many time, it's disapointing to realize how much of it is spliced together. So many shots are shown from multiple angles so that after a bit you notice the same cars passing by. Still, it's great watching and hearing the big V8 Mustang and Charger getting worked hard. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Neither car would have survived if it was all the same car!

A guy wearing a Steve McQueen mask...I dunno...certainly McQueen's ego would have required it if true, but that sounds fishy. Somebody had to have made the mask, so this story should be verifiable. But whether or not Steve was in 100% or 10% of the driving scenes, the guy was a race car driver and daredevil motorcyclist

I contend that the Chrager would have beat the Mustang. The Ford just would never have held together. My Pop had a '65 Mustang, and it was a piece of junk. It needed three manual transmissions before I was born in '71! I've had automatic trannys that worked fine after 25 years, behind engines with twice the torque they were designed for. Pretty car, but that Mustang was not a quality car </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The '68 Mustang was better built than the '65. I don't remember which car mag it was, but they did do road tests between the Charger and Mustang. Don't remember the results, either, but a recent mag ran the new Charger and Mustang GT. The Mustang won. That's neither here nor there, though. On another note, there is a remake of All Quiet On The Western Front. A TV remake.(1979) lol

Maybe instead of remakes, call it an update?
How about 'They Were Expendable' made in 1945 about PT boats?