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zetazot
05-11-2007, 09:41 AM
I just picked up IL46. And I have to say I'm enjoying it so far!

Just a few quick newbie questions for old-hands here:

I've seen 3rd party add ons like "Battle for Europe" on-line. Are these worth getting?

Figuring out how to get on to online games mystify me still. Any suggestions?

Thanks for any help!

BrotherVoodoo
05-11-2007, 09:50 AM
Welcome!!! First I recomment you read the sticky in this forum called a nuggets guide to getting off the ground. Great information in that post. Most of the folks here fly online at hyperlobby. Go here : http://hyperfighter.sk/ and download the client and set yourself up an account (it's free).
I can't speak to the add-ons. I havn't purchased any.

FoolTrottel
05-11-2007, 09:51 AM
"Battle for Europe" on-line. Are these worth getting?
Yes, if you like Western Front action...


Any suggestions?
Go get the Hyperlobby Client (http://hyperfighter.sk)

And, as yer new: Welcome here!
Also: A Nugget's Guide To Getting Off The Ground.. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9121094645)

Have Fun!

*** EDIT: I see BrotherVoodoo beat me to it.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

So you can ignore my advices, and follow his...

So what's left is me welcoming you... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

***

Huxley_S
05-11-2007, 09:53 AM
I've seen 3rd party add ons like "Battle for Europe" on-line. Are these worth getting?

BoE is an excellent add-on but before you shell out on paid add-ons you should try the vast amount of free 3rd party add-ons made by the community.

Lowengrin's DCG is a dynamic campaign generator that can replace the stock generator of IL2 46 and create a much greater variety of campaigns, in every possible theatre, including those very similar to BoE.
www.lowengrin.com (http://www.lowengrin.com)

Also there are hundreds of static campaigns and missions to download from Mission 4 Today.
www.mission4today.com (http://www.mission4today.com)

The great thing about BoE is that it is ready to go out of the box with all the aircraft skins you need. However, again there are hundreds of beautifully made free skins made by community members and you can find these on Mission 4 Today and other sites to download.

SithSpeeder
05-11-2007, 10:28 AM
Aforementioned advice is gold.

So, I'll just say "Welcome aboard!"

* _54th_Speeder *

zetazot
05-11-2007, 10:34 AM
Thanks for the pointers. I've installed the Hyperlobby client. Now I just have to get some more flight time under my belt before I'm comfortable going online.

I don't have a problem taking off. Its the landing that kills me! I'll be practising Nugget's wisdome over the coming days.

Huxley_S, you've made my day! Free missions to download. Komet missions too! I might be a big 190 fan, but right now my heart is set on the single Komet mission in '46. Now I have more. Out-freaking-standing.

Time for some sharp take offs tonight!

Old_Canuck
05-11-2007, 10:45 AM
Welcome. You're in for a long run of good fun. Those who can handle the learning curve tend to stay with it for a long while. It could hit your pocket book too if you let it. If you haven't already checked it out, you'll want to give Track IR (http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/) a look as well. It's the best peripheral next to the joystick ever invented for sims like ours. Happy landings.

tagTaken2
05-11-2007, 10:46 AM
Just out of curiosity, what hardware/joystick etc do you have?

I've been wondering what a new person's experience is like, there's so many hardcore people online in particular.

Remember, you're going up against virtual pilots who've been playing this for 4-5 years, and have TIR, HOTAS controllers and more.

zetazot
05-11-2007, 11:08 AM
Well I got a PC about a year ago. I've been eyeing IL2 since it came out, but I had a Mac at the time so I wasn't able to play until I made the switch.

I'm working on a bit of a budget so the track IR is just a dream right now. I'm using my mouse to deal the views. Its a little clunky, but its working so far to help orient myself with the other aircraft in flight. Track IR is a distant maybe right now. I have to make sure I love the game before I make that kind of commitment. Its sooooo tempting though!

Currently I'm using an ancient macally joystick. Its complete junk. I have to calibrate it every few days or it goes completely off center. It works, but I really could use a better stick. Its been good for getting a feel for the game. By the end of the month I'm hoping to get a Saitek Cyborg EVO stick. It seems like a good mid-range stick. Any suggestions?

I'm positive that online play will be a horrible experience for me. It always is in most games I play online. The only one I've had any luck in is Red Orchestra: Ostfront.

I played flight sims on an Apple IIe back in the day. When I got back into PC gaming it was all about the FPS. That is about to change! The only problem I have is a very excited three year old who likes to 'help' daddy out when I'm trying to fly... I was amazed when he actually brought down a B17 by accident. Every plane is a Focke-Wulf for him, so I have my work cut out to show him otherwise.

PF_Coastie
05-11-2007, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by zetazot:
Thanks for the pointers. I've installed the Hyperlobby client. Now I just have to get some more flight time under my belt before I'm comfortable going online.

I don't have a problem taking off. Its the landing that kills me! I'll be practising Nugget's wisdome over the coming days.



Don't worry about landing for your first few hundred flights online, you will be using your Bailout key and refly most of the time as your plane will be canon fodder! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

There is no better place to shorten the learning curve than online. But you must get on comms so that you can gleen info from the old timers.

tagTaken2
05-11-2007, 11:53 AM
TrackIR is a nerd toy, unless you have a lot of money (as I did when I bought it), or you ARE DEADLY SERIOUS ABOUT SIMMING.

A good joystick is essential, I thought I sucked hard until I picked up a decent one. Look at the reviews, and search these forums for opinions before spending any money.

From what I hear, online is lethal with this game. Ask, and look for an easy server.

Discourage your 3-year-old from repeating "Focke"...

zetazot
05-11-2007, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by tagTaken2:
TrackIR is a nerd toy...

A good joystick is essential...

Discourage your 3-year-old from repeating "Focke"...

Thats why I'm holding off from getting it. If I stumble upon a bunch of cash lying around, I think I would rather get a HOTAS system before the Track IR.

The EVO was suggested by a friend who plays IL2. The reviews have been promising. Right now the keyboard is sometimes better than the joystick I currently have.

Currently my son says "Focke Wulf" in its entirety so I'm relatively safe and he only says it while pointing to planes.

Bearcat99
05-11-2007, 12:24 PM
I recommend that you try Saiteks reconditioned site.. Im at work on my laptop now... can someone post a link to the site?

FoolTrottel
05-11-2007, 12:30 PM
.. can someone post a link to the site?
http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/recprod.html
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

zetazot
05-11-2007, 12:36 PM
Ah! You're killing me! The shiny toys are cheaper?! Ahhhh! Now I don't know what to do!

Is the X52 any good?

Friendly_flyer
05-11-2007, 12:50 PM
Hi, and welcome to the madhouse! The local residents are mostly harmless.

If you like skins for your plane (or your oponents), Flying legends http://www.flying-legends.net/php/downloads/downloads.php?cat_id=17 is a nice place to start.

Jaws2002
05-11-2007, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by zetazot:
Ah! You're killing me! The shiny toys are cheaper?! Ahhhh! Now I don't know what to do!

Is the X52 any good?


Hello and welcome.

i don't have x52 but from what i heared is a great tool. I use the throttle from an older x45 together with my CH stick and pedals and i love it.
X52 should be way better then evo because it has a lot of butons and most important sliders and rotaries for trim, prop pitch and other functions that work better on sliders then butons.
X 52 should be great for now and even better for the future, because the better you get to this game the more controls you want at your "finger tips".
Anyway someone that has x52 will eventualy join in and let you know how it is from hands on experience.

Have fun.

carguy_
05-11-2007, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by tagTaken2:
TrackIR is a nerd toy, unless you have a lot of money (as I did when I bought it), or you ARE DEADLY SERIOUS ABOUT SIMMING.


Deadly serious maybe not but it sure does not pose a good purchase to those who don`t have loose cash lying around.



A good joystick is essential, I thought I sucked hard until I picked up a decent one. Look at the reviews, and search these forums for opinions before spending any money.

Hear the man.A comfortable,smooth,ergonomic joystick IMO beats anything else.It`s really enough.I never got any of this deadly serious stuff and I still didn`t meet a pilot who beat me with TIR or pedals alone.



From what I hear, online is lethal with this game. Ask, and look for an easy server.



Yes,unless you want to be owned every single time after 20secs and get discouraged,fly against easy opponents.Then if you feel strong go choose a server with better pilots.But basically there will always be someone that owns you in a 1v1.

SithSpeeder
05-11-2007, 03:36 PM
X-52! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Rudder pedals http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
TrackIR 2, 3, or 4 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
USB headphone/mic combination http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Total immersion: priceless!

* _54th_Speeder *

Xiolablu3
05-11-2007, 09:06 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Get online as soon as you can, its where the real magic in this sim is.

zetazot
05-12-2007, 06:57 AM
Priceless is something I can't afford right now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif And even with my low end PoS stick the immersion is pretty freaking incredible! Things have definitely improved since I played F15 Strike Eagle. Someday I may get all the gear, just for the cool factor. Probably once my son learns to respect my things a little more. Its not that he doesn't already, but one rough session with an over excited little guy can lead to disaster!

As soon as I land at an airfield without killing myself I'll be online. Although I have a feeling Komets are all that common online! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif