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neural_dream
05-18-2009, 01:53 PM
Hi old friends,

That's just to advertise my new blog,

http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.com/

where I present information about any type of equipment used by the Greeks since their independence (1821-today). If you find modern Greek history interesting, you may want to follow it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. 2-3 articles every week.

The latest article is about the use of SB2C Helldivers in the Greek Civil War.

You may also find this short youtube video interesting. It summarises the Greek participation in WW2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuF6x7venH0

neural_dream
05-18-2009, 01:53 PM
Hi old friends,

That's just to advertise my new blog,

http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.com/

where I present information about any type of equipment used by the Greeks since their independence (1821-today). If you find modern Greek history interesting, you may want to follow it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. 2-3 articles every week.

The latest article is about the use of SB2C Helldivers in the Greek Civil War.

You may also find this short youtube video interesting. It summarises the Greek participation in WW2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuF6x7venH0

Metatron_123
05-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Very interesting, euxaristw!

A bit of greeklish for you. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

M_Gunz
05-18-2009, 09:19 PM
I see you have much to keep you occupied for a long time filling it in. Good hobby.
I had a plastic model once of a vehicle named Ontos that was supposed to be used by the Greek Army.
I had a friend who lived in Athens for a while and when I described it she said she saw one in a
parade there. But when I look for history of any in Greece, I can't find it at all.

And yet the name is Greek!

Dance
05-18-2009, 09:54 PM
Good stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

neural_dream
05-18-2009, 11:16 PM
I'm very happy you liked it. That's my favourite of the colorizations I've done up to now:

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h46000/h46708.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/LimnosandTorpedoBoatDafni1919-Const.png

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by M_Gunz:
I had a plastic model once of a vehicle named Ontos that was supposed to be used by the Greek Army. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontos

I don't think it was ever used by the Greeks.

joeap
05-19-2009, 06:47 AM
Great stuff ND. I am very interested as my own Grandfather fought for the Greek Army in the 1921 war but I know very few details about that other than he was decorated and a photo with some of his comrades with the name Smyrna on a flag in the background.

neural_dream
05-19-2009, 10:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by joeap:
Great stuff ND. I am very interested as my own Grandfather fought for the Greek Army in the 1921 war but I know very few details about that other than he was decorated and a photo with some of his comrades with the name Smyrna on a flag in the background. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
My father's grandfather fought with your grandfather then. He was in Plastiras' Evzones, nicknamed by the Turks as "Devil's army". I'll write articles about that war too (choose "asia minor campaign" from the categories). It's extremely interesting. Practically the war that created Greece and Turkey as we know them now. If you find any nice photo, send them to me and I will add it in the blog, when I write something relevant.

wheelsup_cavu
05-19-2009, 10:37 AM
My dad was in the Marine Corps in the 60's when they were using the Ontos.
He said they had a nasty habit of sinking if the engine quit running. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


Wheelsup

neural_dream
05-20-2009, 07:44 AM
And one more today:

http://koti.welho.com/msolanak/xzdorandar1.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/DorandAR1.png

I hope I didn't mess up with the colours. It's very difficult to be certain about WW1/Asia Minor campaign Greek colours.

Dance
05-22-2009, 02:38 PM
That's a good one http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

neural_dream
05-25-2009, 04:06 PM
I think I'm getting better at this, so a few tips in case you want to try it.

First, zoom in 1000% and with judicious copy-paste from nearby sections, remove text and damaged parts. Then, use NEAT to make it less grainy and finally RECOLORED to add colours. Again, use zoom. The details matter a lot.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/gr-dorand-ar1-photo-a-old.jpg http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/gr-dorand-ar1-photo-a_filtered.jpg http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/dorandar1-colorized-firsttry.jpg

Then, photoshop to fix mistakes, improve the face, etc. I haven't done this yet. Usually increasing the contrast helps a lot.

DuxCorvan
05-26-2009, 02:57 PM
Hey, that guy is not muscular and half-naked. He must be a bit Persian. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Choctaw111
05-26-2009, 03:34 PM
Tikanis http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
I wonder how many people from Greece we have in this forum? I grew up with a Greek family.
Nice photos http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

neural_dream
05-27-2009, 05:26 AM
Greek Helldiver. In 1949 they were dropping Napalm bombs against the Communists (during the Greek Civil War).
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/GreekHelldiver1949.png

and
a terrible earlier attempt to colourise a Greek Bloch MB.151

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/BlochMB151damaged.png

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
Tikanis http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
I wonder how many people from Greece we have in this forum? I grew up with a Greek family.
Nice photos http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif How come?

Choctaw111
05-27-2009, 07:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by neural_dream:

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif How come? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I grew up in a very rural area and a Greek family lived "behind" us about a 1/2 mile back. That was the closest home back that way. He was my best childhood friend. He and I were always doing something together. His father was an artist and came over from Greece when he was a boy. Back then I had two families really. My own, and his.
If I was gone from the house all day or even over night, my parents knew that he and I were playing together. I was given a lot of freedom from the time I was about 6 years old.
It is a much different world today where parents really have to worry about letting their young ones out like that.
That was a very magical time for me and has greatly influenced who I am today.

neural_dream
05-28-2009, 06:56 AM
I wonder if there are still such neighbourhoods in the western world, where parents don't have to worry.

neural_dream
05-28-2009, 12:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Hey, that guy is not muscular and half-naked. He must be a bit Persian. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
You never thought I would find a photo for this, but I did http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/BlochMB151-D173.png

Oh yes, a half-naked Greek on a Bloch 151 during the early stages of the war.

The similarities with our ancestors are obvious:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4LiZOFT08do/SVjIGTN_81I/AAAAAAAABI4/APZbLcTBKSw/S1600-R/%CE%B4%CE%B9%CF%83%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%B2%CE%BF%CE%BB%C E%BF%CF%82.jpg

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

neural_dream
06-15-2009, 03:03 PM
In case there is still any interest in colorizations of rare aircraft,

that's the Do.22, used only by Yugoslavs, Greeks and Finns IIRC:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/Do22G.png http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/Do22G1938.png
The funny thing with this German seaplane torpedo bomber is that it was never used by the Germans, it never dropped a torpedo and it was rarely used as seaplane
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/NeuralDream/blogger/Do22Kg-Hydroplane.png
I have details for the Greek use of this plane in the blog: http://greek-war-equipment.blo.../dornier-do22kg.html (http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.com/2009/06/dornier-do22kg.html)