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cdn_hunter
03-26-2010, 08:27 AM
Much as I hate the DRM and as a consumer , decided not to buy SH5 because of it , in fairness to UBI maybe your rage should be directed at the ignorant , selfish , spoiled brats that are creating the DDOS attacks on UBI's servers and depriving you a playing time.

You knew (or should have known) about the DRM before buying the game and have a legitimate reason to be ****ed if you can't connect , but it isn't all UBI's fault.

They simply tried a moronic way of protecting their investment form the types of users that create the DDOD attacks.

Athlonics
03-26-2010, 09:40 AM
Well said !

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

andy3536
03-26-2010, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by cdn_hunter:
Much as I hate the DRM and as a consumer , decided not to buy SH5 because of it , in fairness to UBI maybe your rage should be directed at the ignorant , selfish , spoiled brats that are creating the DDOS attacks on UBI's servers and depriving you a playing time.

You knew (or should have known) about the DRM before buying the game and have a legitimate reason to be ****ed if you can't connect , but it isn't all UBI's fault.

They simply tried a moronic way of protecting their investment form the types of users that create the DDOD attacks.

Eer, well i hate to dampen your enthusiasm. But it wasn't a DDOS attack.

There was an article on Toms hardware Germany that said they have spoken to someone that was working on the servers that said they had noticed no such attack.
The servers went down through high usage, and the fact that the SW running the severs wasn't adequately tested, nothing else. So yes, it is all UBIs fault http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You should read some threads before you post UBI propaganda http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1062387/m/3311031248 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121062387/m/3311031248)

Athlonics
03-26-2010, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by andy3536:

Eer, well i hate to dampen your enthusiasm. But it wasn't a DDOS attack.

There was an article on Toms hardware Germany that said they have spoken to someone that was working on the servers that said they had noticed no such attack.
The servers went down through high usage, and the fact that the SW running the severs wasn't adequately tested, nothing else. So yes, it is all UBIs fault http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You should read some threads before you post UBI propaganda http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1062387/m/3311031248 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121062387/m/3311031248)

Errrrr,

And what about this :


#The network was a massive protest against the DRM protection from UbiSoft.
#
#This new method of digital rights management, which requires a complete game for #the availability of a permanent Internet connection.
#
#DRM does no longer start the game and record the checkpoint passage in case of #absence or break the Internet connection.
#
#Games that already have this mechanism: Assassin's Creed 2 and Silent Hunter 5.
#
#Join the protest!
#
#Remember Only Moscow Time! 15:00, 18:00, 20:00, 22:00, 00:00 <<<Today 13 Th Of #March! Change Local Time To Moscow...


and this a week later :


Nigu22 Aka "Axuyan" Proudly Presents DDOS Tools For Attacking Ubi's Servers!
Torrent Includes:
1)anti_drm.bat (Ping Ubi's Servers) Updated Adresses!
2)LongCat Flooder (Http,TCP/Ip,Syn Flooder)
3)BlackOut Flooder (TCP/HTTP/ICMP/UDP Flooder)Little Effective Then LongCat
~~~~~~~~Your Anti Virus Might Have Problem With LongCat Flooder,But Don't Worry It's Virus Free! Tested!~~~~~~

News: Ubi's Servers Are Dead Almost 1 Or maybe 2 Days,if you look On Steam Forum There Are ***ing War Between customers And Ubi,The Can't Play!
This Week We're Going on Revansh!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)



Found on a famous PirateBoy site, so check your sources.

THERE HAS BEEN DDOS attacks, period !

andy3536
03-26-2010, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Athlonics:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by andy3536:

Eer, well i hate to dampen your enthusiasm. But it wasn't a DDOS attack.

There was an article on Toms hardware Germany that said they have spoken to someone that was working on the servers that said they had noticed no such attack.
The servers went down through high usage, and the fact that the SW running the severs wasn't adequately tested, nothing else. So yes, it is all UBIs fault http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You should read some threads before you post UBI propaganda http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1062387/m/3311031248 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121062387/m/3311031248)

Errrrr,

And what about this :


#The network was a massive protest against the DRM protection from UbiSoft.
#
#This new method of digital rights management, which requires a complete game for #the availability of a permanent Internet connection.
#
#DRM does no longer start the game and record the checkpoint passage in case of #absence or break the Internet connection.
#
#Games that already have this mechanism: Assassin's Creed 2 and Silent Hunter 5.
#
#Join the protest!
#
#Remember Only Moscow Time! 15:00, 18:00, 20:00, 22:00, 00:00 <<<Today 13 Th Of #March! Change Local Time To Moscow...


and this a week later :


Nigu22 Aka "Axuyan" Proudly Presents DDOS Tools For Attacking Ubi's Servers!
Torrent Includes:
1)anti_drm.bat (Ping Ubi's Servers) Updated Adresses!
2)LongCat Flooder (Http,TCP/Ip,Syn Flooder)
3)BlackOut Flooder (TCP/HTTP/ICMP/UDP Flooder)Little Effective Then LongCat
~~~~~~~~Your Anti Virus Might Have Problem With LongCat Flooder,But Don't Worry It's Virus Free! Tested!~~~~~~

News: Ubi's Servers Are Dead Almost 1 Or maybe 2 Days,if you look On Steam Forum There Are ***ing War Between customers And Ubi,The Can't Play!
This Week We're Going on Revansh!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)



Found on a famous PirateBoy site, so check your sources.

THERE HAS BEEN DDOS attacks, period ! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you'd rather trust a link on a pirate site than those at Toms Hardware???

Hmm, right oh...

Just like when you get a terrorist attack a couple of useless groups that want to make themselves seem important take the credit when it's not them.

Toms Hardware is more reputable that anything that you might find on torrent sites.

So there wasn't a DDOS attack Period, i'd get you facts right before posting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

/Sarcasm.

Tinker1971
03-26-2010, 03:26 PM
There are usually between 1000 and 3000 users on line on these forums daily. Last Saturady when the page finally loaded there was 22500+ users on line. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Also, if there was no craphead pirates, we would not have this DRM to start with.

Please send your blame to the pirate sites. THEY are the people who are hurting us all.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Gekkibi
03-26-2010, 03:38 PM
There is no solid proof that the servers were DDoSed. This is just yet another cockhorse to blame "the pirates" ("Cockhorse": Something you use to force an idea through. Politicians uses this "cockhorse method". For example internet censorship to prevent child abuse. "Please think of the children" / "If you oppose this law proposal you are a pedophile"...).

MWolfe1963
03-26-2010, 03:48 PM
The fact is when you do things like DRM, unless you have all the proper security walls and people constantly working with it you're wasting your time. It's like saying attack us and pirates of every sort for the fun of it will do so. Blaming pirates just silly, they enjoy it and will always be there in numbers, so blame th company that doesn't have the skill or the means to deal with them.

When a company blames things on pirates when their services fail, it's just saying the pirates have much more skill than you.

However, I don't think this is pirates, just overloaded servers and will be a constant issue and you'll just have to hope you can play the game when you want. I'd be peod if I signed on to play and could not over and over.

Athlonics
03-26-2010, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by andy3536:


So you'd rather trust a link on a pirate site than those at Toms Hardware???

Hmm, right oh...

Toms Hardware is more reputable that anything that you might find on torrent sites.

So there wasn't a DDOS attack Period, i'd get you facts right before posting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

/Sarcasm.

Tom's Hardware ?

Ah yes I got it, this is the site telling nVidia cards are better than ATI ?

So yes I don't trust them !

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Just kidding here.

But I trust what I see, and what I saw the 2 weekends following the release of SH5 is UBI server down exactly at the planned DDOS attacks.
UBI changed their server's IP and magicaly all ran like a charm.
Pirates updated their stuff and boom, servers down again.

Dig it ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

A pirate is one thing, but several thousands of them is another story...

anyawow
03-26-2010, 06:59 PM
The DRM fiasco and related problems are ALL Ubisoft's fault. They instigated the entire situation with this ridiculous DRM method. It does not matter if the server connection problems are due to DDOS or overloading, Ubisoft created this mess!

Ubisoft cared more about 'beating the pirates' than serving their own paying customers. This DRM is a massive failure, they have lost a large amount of sales because of it; this is obvious.

I am one of the people who decided to NOT purchase SH5 due to this DRM. I can not support a company that does not care for it's customers, first and foremost.

Wolferz
03-26-2010, 08:03 PM
A DDOS attack would fall under the category of external source of trouble and I don't think Ubisoft would offer compensation if there really was an attack. The fact that they are offering comp games is pretty much an admission of guilt on their part. Your mileage may vary.
After perusing the latest quarterly report, Ubi is not doing as well as they'd like to be. This current path will take them over a cliff if they don't do something fast. If they close shop, kiss yo money goodbye and enjoy your coaster or roll the dice and hope whoever buys them up will be more reputable.

burntham113
03-26-2010, 11:41 PM
There wouldn't be any DDOS attacks if the UBI dev team hadn't smoked so much crack while making this game. Its already cracked, It was cracked THE VERY SAME DAY IT WAS RELEASED! Big companies never f-ing learn. If people want to steal it, they're gonna steal it. No If's, and's, or buts about it.

The DRM was a waste of resources, instead of developing that, MAYBE they should have been more concerned about finishing their own product rather then protect a half finished one. All its doing for UBI is increasing costs, and lowering profits, that's it.

andy3536
03-27-2010, 06:03 AM
Originally posted by Athlonics:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by andy3536:


So you'd rather trust a link on a pirate site than those at Toms Hardware???

Hmm, right oh...

Toms Hardware is more reputable that anything that you might find on torrent sites.

So there wasn't a DDOS attack Period, i'd get you facts right before posting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

/Sarcasm.

Tom's Hardware ?

Ah yes I got it, this is the site telling nVidia cards are better than ATI ?

So yes I don't trust them !

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Just kidding here.

But I trust what I see, and what I saw the 2 weekends following the release of SH5 is UBI server down exactly at the planned DDOS attacks.
UBI changed their server's IP and magicaly all ran like a charm.
Pirates updated their stuff and boom, servers down again.

Dig it ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

A pirate is one thing, but several thousands of them is another story... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Actually i think you'll find that the servers continually went down at 'peak gaming times' so quite frankly i could have predicted that.

DavyWonderful
03-27-2010, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by Wolferz:
A DDOS attack would fall under the category of external source of trouble and I don't think Ubisoft would offer compensation if there really was an attack. The fact that they are offering comp games is pretty much an admission of guilt on their part.

This..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Dreamwind1967
03-28-2010, 11:54 PM
Hence why it's called UPLAY BETA.

or U don't play Beta as it should be called. lol

Silvensis
03-29-2010, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by cdn_hunter:
Much as I hate the DRM and as a consumer , decided not to buy SH5 because of it , in fairness to UBI maybe your rage should be directed at the ignorant , selfish , spoiled brats that are creating the DDOS attacks on UBI's servers and depriving you a playing time.

You knew (or should have known) about the DRM before buying the game and have a legitimate reason to be ****ed if you can't connect , but it isn't all UBI's fault.

They simply tried a moronic way of protecting their investment form the types of users that create the DDOD attacks.
Difficult, this one. Very chicken-and-egg. IF the hackers hadn't launched their attack, then SHV players wouldn't have had problems playing the game. On the other hand, IF Ubisoft hadn't used what you yourself call a 'moronic' DRM system, then those players wouldn't have had problems playing the game anyway.

Granted, without that DRM system, Ubisoft stand to lose sales to piracy. But - and this is the key point here - even WITH the system, they're going to lose sales to piracy.

In this case, though, the question is whether the piracy they prevent by using this despotic system outweighs the sales they lose by treating all potential purchasers like criminals - especially bearing in mind the demonstrated principle that DRM inconveniences the honest purchaser far more than it inconveniences pirates.

You're right to condemn those who launched the DDOS attack - or whatever we're calling it. They were wrong regardless. But the problems the players faced were based on a combination of two conditions: the attack, and the DRM that the attack fouled up.

If nothing else, the attack shows precisely why single-player games should not be shipped with ridiculous DRM of this sort.

shoppingtrolley
03-29-2010, 07:54 AM
Was there an attack? Has the DRM effected piracey? And what happened to Trenken http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif One thing I do know, UBI lost 1 sale because of the DRM. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

AUSBoris2k
03-29-2010, 08:02 PM
if they didnt make **** games that rely mostly on gimmicks and novelties rather than substance then people would not be so willing to "try b4 you buy" too many times have i sunk money on a game to find it was gimmicky dog ****.