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theres-no-names
04-07-2007, 07:35 AM
this sounds evil probably but will you be able to just walk up behind someone and stab them?

madkosai
04-07-2007, 07:48 AM
I don't see why not. Didn't show innocent people dying in the demo but Jade did mention annoying people in the crowd and how it could affect you some way!?

RetiredHatch
04-07-2007, 11:08 AM
I'm sure you could kill innocents

notice in the demo they were pushing them around well they were hitting the "hand without weapon" button well what do you think will happen if you hit the "hand with weapon" button

Howler13
04-07-2007, 11:15 AM
You probably can kill anyone you want (I may try that on my second playthrough =]), but I'm pretty sure it's not a good idea. It would probably attract alot of guard attention, and the chances of you winning over anyone who witness it would be slim. But it could be fun.

RetiredHatch
04-07-2007, 11:21 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif well yea of course

i'll probably stab a few people every once and a while knock over a few fruit stands just be plain mean in one game to make the game be extremely difficult because everyone will hate me so after i assassinate a guard all the people will start throwing stones at me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ahh good times...

Anubis14_360
04-07-2007, 04:08 PM
but will there be blood and how much? will it be like kill bill (lol) or like a g rated game.

LiTos456
04-07-2007, 06:55 PM
i dont think there will be a lot of blood... as i seen in the x06 demo when you kill it looks kinda weird, like in a cartoon. thats really weird

quicksilver_502
04-08-2007, 06:24 AM
not really gonna help you keep a low cover if you run around mindlessly slaughtering innocents. but i'm definitely sadistic. all who are sadistic say AYE!

RetiredHatch
04-08-2007, 10:50 AM
The blood will be realistic it won't be a waterfall but there will definately be some look at the Pre-E3 trailer there's blood after he stabs that one guy but it's realistic blood

Harmor1
04-08-2007, 02:29 PM
I will deffo recreate the havoc I caused in the Mardis Gras level in Hitman Blood Money for kicks ... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif .. but also play this (gorgeous looking) game on a more serious note ofc.

tailstriker
04-08-2007, 04:53 PM
never did quite manage to kill everybody in that map

quicksilver_502
04-09-2007, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by tailstriker:
never did quite manage to kill everybody in that map

almost managed that. did it on almost every other map. i like killing. the trick is to take a shield. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

G_T_S
04-09-2007, 11:49 AM
im 100% sure u can killl innocents...
one of the main characteristics of the game is freedom so i dont see why not...
+ crowd is interactive :P

assassin1994
04-14-2007, 09:36 AM
it will be bad though if u kill innocent people because then people wont like u and after u assassinate a guy then nearly every1 in the whole city will tell the guards where u are and the guards will easily ambush u, and then u'll be in a bit of a pickle.

RetiredHatch
04-14-2007, 12:07 PM
Does that pickle taste good? Because if it does then maybe you can just eat yourself out of it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

EDIT: I honestly started smelling a pickle right now that's kind of strange http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

ok now that i think of it i wanted to say something real quick about this, killing everything is going to be a thing you do in a game where you want to be in a "pickle" you'll make a couple games

one where you play the game fresh doing helping missions and the main mission simultaneously where you play like it's a fresh game (one you haven't played before) you'll do all your exploration and side quests and do everything you just feel like doing when you want to do it cause you just honestly don't know what's going on etc

another where you kill everything in site to make everyone hate you to make the game extremely hard and play the main mission

one more where you play nothing but the main story and everyone is neautral towards you to see how that works out

jerx
04-15-2007, 05:32 AM
like everyone else says
you probably can
but the assassin clan this guy was apart of had a thing of not wanting to kill innocents
just thier target
tho they didnt mind spreading fear by assassinating in public

sieg1990
04-15-2007, 09:54 AM
Maybe it wont have any effect if you kill someone while there is no one else around. how could you get in trouble if no one sees what you did.

RetiredHatch
04-15-2007, 10:38 AM
chances are someone will be looking you're not going to find an innocent bystander on the roof of a building or anything

sieg1990
04-15-2007, 10:51 AM
you never know maybe as you are going between cities there will be lone travelers

RetiredHatch
04-15-2007, 11:56 AM
i guess that's true

adio540
04-15-2007, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by assassin1994:
it will be bad though if u kill innocent people because then people wont like u and after u assassinate a guy then nearly every1 in the whole city will tell the guards where u are and the guards will easily ambush u, and then u'll be in a bit of a pickle.

well then you pull your sword and fight like a man

ryukoken69
04-15-2007, 07:55 PM
no accually the thing is if you kill innocent people... you might kill someone who has a potentil side quest of you.

sieg1990
04-15-2007, 08:19 PM
no accually the thing is if you kill innocent people... you might kill someone who has a potentil side quest of you.

if thats true then your saying that each ai character in the game has its own look and name (like in oblivion) and there wont be any spawns. if thats not it then the characters that would give you quests would probably stand out from the rest. so just dont kill that guy

ryukoken69
04-15-2007, 09:35 PM
I dont remember alot of people sticking out in Oblivion... I know there were certain people you couldnt kill but I got the giude to it and before I had that I killed off 4 different quest givers and they dont respawn.
and with the attention to detail and the realizum factor in this game I doubt people will be coming back to life....
second most not all but most assassins only kill there mark, maybe the bodygaurds protecting them but back then I would highly doubt they would go out and start slaughtering people just cuz they can.

assassin1994
04-17-2007, 01:39 PM
its true though u can kill innocent people it was done in a demonstration ubisoft did of the game!paragraph below

But back to the social stealth system: Altair then attacked and killed an innocent civilian, causing the crowd to go bonkers and frantically flee the scene of the crime, while subsequently drawing the attention of a few nearby guards.

link:http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/assassins_creed/preview-198.html Hope that answers all ya questions http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif(luks lik altair is one of the assassins who dont only get 2 kill their mark, hey ryukoken lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif)

evasion438
04-20-2007, 03:04 AM
thats not it then the characters that would give you quests would probably stand out from the rest. so just dont kill that guy

or it might not let you kill those people (like in neverwinter nights)

assassin1994
04-21-2007, 01:58 PM
there's probly about 20 people in each city that giv the sme quest,1nce ya dun that quest, the other people will offer u a different quest becos there is no point in a quest gettin lost if u kill the guy who is offerin it, and 20 people aint that much considerin how many people there r in a HUGE city.its just my guess! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

andy276
04-22-2007, 01:40 AM
There weren't so many people in cities in the medieval times... especially after the crusaders killed many of them.

assassin1994
04-22-2007, 05:27 AM
in the game theirs alot of crowd

King32Gofather
04-24-2007, 01:49 AM
hey how about stabbing innocents but only injuring them if thats what u wanna do or will it always be a 1 hit thing...

and how about killing innocents to cause a diversion to then kill ur target whilst he is unatended or he may be curious as to wat is going on and while hes amougest the crowed stabb him in thhe back

quote:RetiredHatch

chances are someone will be looking you're not going to find an innocent bystander on the roof of a building or anything
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but to this i say we've only seen gameplay when it is daylight and if there is option of playing in the night which i hope there is maybe there are innocents out at night by themselves...

i like the idea of social stealth but i do hope that hiding in the dark still has some effect

annd as for the blood im pretty sure it'll b a MA15+ game so there had better b some realistic blood and lots of it but not as much as kill bill...

quicksilver_502
04-24-2007, 09:30 AM
if you stab a innocent the guards aren't gonna go over to make sure he's ok. theyll just try to stab you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

King32Gofather
04-24-2007, 07:21 PM
not if they dont see u do it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

and it only an idea http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

sieg1990
04-24-2007, 08:10 PM
there will probably be people yelling to the guards that you did it and the guards will probably just try to find you

Boromir323
04-24-2007, 08:41 PM
it said in a couple of the articals mention in the known facts section that ubisoft dev's had killed innocents for a demo so i think u can, you just have to run away very fast afterwards.

ryukoken69
04-24-2007, 09:56 PM
but if your trying to blend into the crowd why would you kill an innocent? also, you know you can get side quests form people and as ubisoft hasnt said if these people will be killable would you think its a good idea in the off chance that some side quest givers might be the ones your killing for kicks?
we really know nothing about how the kill of anyone other then the gaurd and your target will affect the gameplay. and thus in real life you wouldnt know its a quest giver before you kill someone and I doubt that you will know in the game either. but maybe its like oblivion where certain npc's cant be killed just rendered unconsious.

ParadiseFH
04-24-2007, 11:20 PM
define "innocent"

King32Gofather
04-25-2007, 02:20 AM
yeah we know bout the side missions and stuff and how killing innocents isnt really very sensible...

But can anybody tell me if we can play in the night time of the game because that would mean an entirly different gameplay in the dark

oh and an innocent is just the other people wandering around throughout the game (their called NPC's)

RetiredHatch
04-25-2007, 06:57 AM
these quest givers i think are going to be random and spuradic things not you walk up to someone he says do this and you go do that that's too ridiculous really (i could be wrong) but it might be something more random like in spider-man 2 you're swinging along and you hear the cars going crazy so you go check it out and you see there's a speeding car (the purple dots on the map sure did help) but something more random like that

take that example and put it into assassin's creed your climbing around and you hear a woman scream then you climb down to the source of the panic and you find her getting mugged by some thugs so you beat down the thugs (or maybe help the thugs whatever) and she thanks you and runs along now that you helped her she runs around and tells all her friends what a good man you are and the crowd sorta kinda likes you now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif priests believe in your cause and let you blend in with them and more stuff could be of result of that or something

therefore what i'm saying i don't really think it'll be possible to kill quest givers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

noobfun
04-25-2007, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:

take that example and put it into assassin's creed your climbing around and you hear a woman scream then you climb down to the source of the panic and you find her getting mugged by some thugs so you beat down the thugs (or maybe help the thugs whatever) and she thanks you and runs along now that you helped her she runs around and tells all her friends what a good man you are and the crowd sorta kinda likes you now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif priests believe in your cause and let you blend in with them and more stuff could be of result of that or something

therefore what i'm saying i don't really think it'll be possible to kill quest givers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif
yeah from what ive heard its more a matter of conciounce then specific quest givers like anarchy on line or the other games mentioned

another side quest ive heard of in interviews is while traveling you come across a soldiers encampment and they have a woman they have kidnapped(or just grabbed as she traveled past) and you can either help her, which means fighting the soldiers or just ignore her and keep going

so you can doing a good thing or ignore it and let someone suffer

same goes with the begger weve heard of, he will try and trip you as you run past, but weve been told of a part you can steal money, my guess is steal some cash(pickpocket or just pick up) and give to him so he trips the guards instead of you

and yeah you need to help the priests so they will hide you(see x06 demo for jade saying somthing like 'now these priests becasue we have helped them in the past will allow us to hide amongst them')we just dont know how yet

RetiredHatch
04-25-2007, 02:50 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif yea i've heard about the beggar not the other one you mentioned but that's basically how it works well how it sounds like it's going to work

noobfun
04-25-2007, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif yea i've heard about the beggar not the other one you mentioned but that's basically how it works well how it sounds like it's going to work

hatch stop flirting with me ^_^

RetiredHatch
04-25-2007, 06:21 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif lol in your dreams http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif