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01-14-2006, 11:14 AM
Hello all you vets and rookies,

I have bought the following software and need advice on what to install and the sequence of installations, including patches.

Pacific Fighters
IL2 Sturmovik
IL2 Forgotten Battles

Also have a new copy of Lock On. Will it co-exist with the 3 titles above?

Many Thanks,


Previously AMA Bravo7 of Air Attack Rookies fame :-)

01-14-2006, 11:14 AM
Hello all you vets and rookies,

I have bought the following software and need advice on what to install and the sequence of installations, including patches.

Pacific Fighters
IL2 Sturmovik
IL2 Forgotten Battles

Also have a new copy of Lock On. Will it co-exist with the 3 titles above?

Many Thanks,


Previously AMA Bravo7 of Air Attack Rookies fame :-)

01-14-2006, 12:07 PM
You'll need Ace Expansion Pack if you want a PF merged install.


01-14-2006, 12:36 PM
Thanks for the swift reply.

I assume that if I don't have the AEP then I can still fly each game but not have all the aircraft available in PF?

Or am I being too simplistic, and there are other reasons to consider buying the AEP?



01-14-2006, 12:53 PM
With the PF+FB+AEP merged install you get all the aircraft in one program, and the ability to play online with hundreds of other players.

I used to just play PF Stand-alone, but I really wanted to jump online so I picked up a copy of Forgotten Battles Gold (Ace Expansion Pack and Forgotten Battles in one box) and haven't looked back.

I suggest you get it for the above reasons as well as it saving hard drive space. If you look at the information each plane contains on disk its relatively small, its the game engine that takes up the most room. If you install the 3 programs you have all seperately, you're going essentially have installed the same game engine 3 times.

Its also very nice to be able to just quit flying a Bf109 over Europe and jump into a Hellcat in the Pacific with just a few quick clicks and not having to exit and reload another game.

01-14-2006, 12:59 PM
Thanks for the advice.

So assuming I have IL2, IL2 FB, AEP, and PF what is the minimum to install, e.g. can I miss out installing IL2 or other parts of the programs thus making a more efficient install in disk space terms without loosing out on any features?

I appreciate the advice as HD space seems to become less by the hour here :-)

BTW is this the Gold pack...
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=search&searchtype=PC...search&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=search&searchtype=PC&searchstring=f orgotten+battles+gold&page=search&Go.x=0&Go.y=0)


01-14-2006, 01:17 PM

You could leave out the Original IL2 Sturmovik.
(Though you'd surely miss out on some fun!)
All the aircraft/maps/stuff of the Original are present in FB.

So, most efficient would be FB+AEP+PF (Patched up to 4.02m.)

Or, for the most fun, you could do as the vets have done before:

(Pretend it's 2001)
Install IL2 Sturmovik, have some fun with it. Patch it up to 1.22

(Pretend it's 2002)
Install FB, patch it up, have some fun with it.

(Pretend it's 2003)
Install AEP on top of FB, patch it up to 2.04, have some fun with it.
You can uninstall the Original now.

(Pretend it's 2004)
Install PF on top of FB+AEP, patch it up to version 3.03m, have some fun with it.

(Pretend it's 2005.)
Install Patches 4.01m and 4.02m, have some fun with it.

Note: Prevent downloading and installing all them great community-made campaigns and missions and utils.
They will cost too much diskspace (Just kiddin', surely)

Have Fun!

01-14-2006, 02:31 PM
Alabama the link in your post is NOT the gold pack.The gold pack is just 2 games.Forgotten Battles and the Ace Expansion Pack(AEP).AEP is not the same as Aces expansion.

AEP is very scarce and you may have to get the Gold Pack to get it.

Look here for AEP:

http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=008888681786&category=PC (http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=008888681786&category=PC)

Look here for gold pack:
http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=008888681809&category=PC (http://store.ubi.com/item.jsp?item=008888681809&category=PC)

Forgotten Battles is a standalone game.AEP is an expansion to Forgotten Battles.Pacific Fighters can be installed as a standalone game or as a merged install.(FB+AEP+PF).With the merged install you get all the planes and maps in one game.95% of online players used the merged installed patched to current level.(4.02m)

01-14-2006, 10:36 PM
hey alabama where u from and did u get the sims in a store or offline ?
im curious because i've been tryin to find them forever

01-15-2006, 12:40 AM
Forgotten Battles is an expanded version of IL-2 Sturmovik so you really don't neeed IL-2 Sturmovik at all. However, you could install IL-2, copy the missions folder and insert the scripted campaigns that come with it into Forgotten Battles (which has a different campaign system) and then uninstall IL-2 Sturmovik. Or keep IL-2 Sturmovik for a while and enjoy its differences in sound effects and flight models that many people argue are better than they are in the 'sequel' Forgotten Battles ...

Ace Expansion Pack normally installs to Forgotten Battles. Without AEP, you can still download a few upgrade patches for FB to bring it up to v1.22 that gives you some additional maps and objects and a flyable P-51D and two Japanese fighters. All the patch stuff plus more is also available in AEP.

Without AEP, FB v1.22 is perfectly playable offline. It may be difficult to find online players as few people are flying FB v1.22 and you can only connect to people who are using the same version number you are. Installing AEP brings you up to v2.0; there are two AEP upgrade patches that will bring you up to v2.04. These AEP patches add flyable Spitfires and Soviet I-185s plus an new online 'desert' map. AEP itself adds about 30 additional flyables that cover a wide range, from US piston fighters like the P-38 to Spitfires to Luftwaffe rocket interceptors to various jets. You can only install Ace Expansion Pack to Forgotten Battles.

Pacific Fighters can be installed two ways (and both ways at the same time, as each version goes to a different directory) -- as a stand-alone game or as an an expansion pack to FB+AEP. If you install as a stand-alone, PF is named v3.0. If you install as an expansion, PF becomes v3.0m. Each option has a series of patches that are similarly numbered except the letter 'm' at the end to designate for 'merged.' The merged version patches have additional content that is not available in the PF standalone patches, like Murmansk and NW Europe maps, several flyable aircraft and new ground objects like armored trains and tanks.

So ... go ahead and install both Forgotten Battles and Pacific Fighters now. Patch up FB to v1.22 and consider looking around for the Ace Expansion Pack to install over it. Patch up Pacific Fighters using the 3.03, 4.01 and 4.02 patches. After you get the Ace Expansion Pack installed, install Pacific Fighters again over that using the FB+AEP+PF option and patch that up using 3.03m, 4.01m and 4.02m.

01-15-2006, 11:43 PM
Click here and read (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/6651099693/r/9541021793#9541021793)

01-18-2006, 09:50 AM
To all who replied thanks for the great advice.

To SLO123 I bought the software almost a year ago in PC world in UK - sad to say I have not had time to do anything other than have a quick blast with LOMAC since then. Now with more time at my disposal I can really get to grips with the rest of the software.

I have a Saitek Cyborg EVO force stick.


01-18-2006, 10:08 AM
just so you know, Lock-on has an expansion called "flaming cliffs", you have pay for it, but it is well worth it. If its do-able, you def want to use the merged install for the prop sims. Not only for the good reasons stated above, but because you will be discovering what a great game it is for the next year, it has come a LONG way since the original IL-2 (and the original rocked).