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klower
06-12-2004, 06:54 PM
I just bought a new Saitec Cyborg Evo because the rudder pot in my Logitech Wingman Force 3D was giving out. It seems like my flying offline has improved markedly. The centering is much better and the stick seems more accurate. It seems to have improved my gunnery and it certainly makes trimming easier (thanks to the more positive centering). The stick force seems a little high, but I think I'll get use to it.

klower
06-12-2004, 06:54 PM
I just bought a new Saitec Cyborg Evo because the rudder pot in my Logitech Wingman Force 3D was giving out. It seems like my flying offline has improved markedly. The centering is much better and the stick seems more accurate. It seems to have improved my gunnery and it certainly makes trimming easier (thanks to the more positive centering). The stick force seems a little high, but I think I'll get use to it.

Scragbat
06-12-2004, 07:09 PM
I've been using a Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold USB stick for nearly two years now. No trouble with it yet but I'm sure it will give up on me one day!
I hear that the Evo is very nice but the base is not very heavy. Do you find that you are lifting the stick off the table if you manouver with it too vigorously?
If my old stick gives out I may consider this as a replacement.
The Evo has nice glowy lights on it which must be a consideration http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Mitlov47
06-12-2004, 08:20 PM
I made the same switch a month ago when my Logitech's rudder gave out. The Saitek takes getting used to, because it's such a light joystick, but it's much more precise and I like the shape and button locations better.

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klower
06-12-2004, 10:29 PM
Yes, the light base is a problem. In particular when combined with the stick's rather stiff action. I found myself lifting corners quite a bit. I think after a few more hours it won't be a problem

Mitlov47
06-12-2004, 11:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by klower:
Yes, the light base is a problem. In particular when combined with the stick's rather stiff action. I found myself lifting corners quite a bit. I think after a few more hours it won't be a problem<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was actually referring to the light action, not light base. I had a slightly different Logitech than you did--I forget the model name--and it had a much heavier action than my Saitek.

As for the light base--I place a dictionary on my lap, then place the joystick on the dictionary. Problem solved.

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pik_as
06-13-2004, 06:37 AM
On your lap? You must be kidding. That doesn't seem very stable at all. I use the pull-out keyboard shelf to mount my Cyborg 2000 on. I just rolled up 3 pieces of duct tape, applied them to the underside of the base, and stuck it down with that. It adheres so well, the tape is actually pulling the finish off my desk, one small speck at a time. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
By the way, I'm on my 3rd Cyborg 2000 since I started flying.... somewhere in '98 I think it was. A new one every 2 years isn't bad. I find the potentiometers go after a while, making false inputs. Like right now, my current stick is creating throttle spikes at certain settings. Not good when flying the Me-262 on approach. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

pielkop
06-13-2004, 11:30 PM
I recently also bought a Saitek cyborg evo and man i love it .As you said klower the light base is a problem but my gunnery as also improved quite a bit and i am a lefty so it helps that it can be switched.but there is one little prolblem and that is that the evo does not hold its calibration after a windows shutdown ,i have to move my stick in a full circle and twist it other wise when i play Il2 the plane will tend to go into a right habd roll .Does anyone know if this as been fixed ?. i have dowloaded the newest patch (i think) but it still does this.Any one els have this problem ?

Inadaze
06-14-2004, 04:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pielkop:
I recently also bought a Saitek cyborg evo and man i love it .As you said klower the light base is a problem but my gunnery as also improved quite a bit and i am a lefty so it helps that it can be switched.but there is one little prolblem and that is that the evo does not hold its calibration after a windows shutdown ,i have to move my stick in a full circle and twist it other wise when i play Il2 the plane will tend to go into a right habd roll .Does anyone know if this as been fixed ?. i have dowloaded the newest patch (i think) but it still does this.Any one els have this problem ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That right hand roll is probably the engine torque, not the stick. If the plane has em use aerolon trim to stop it. Some planes don't have aerolon trim (Spits spring to mind).

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Raul_TT
06-14-2004, 05:46 AM
I also have an Evo got after the Throttle in my Thrustmaster ABII gave out.
I like the Evo very much and the light base doesn't bother me. I like the long trigger. I don't find it is very comfortable at the top of the hand becasue of the separation for the swiveling head.
Pielkop I don't think that they have found a solution for the problem you report. But it is not a question of torque. you just have to give it a full circle for it to recalibrate just think of it a pre-flight testing of the control surfqaces http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Tank50
06-14-2004, 09:49 AM
I made the switch to an evo recently after my Logitech finally became inaccurate (2+yrs). I had the same concern about the lighter base, but it hasn't been a problem. A while ago i made a lapboard out of 3/4 inch plywood. Mine is 18 x 8 inches and provides a very stable place for the joystick. Puts it in a more realistic position also.