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Pirschjaeger
09-11-2006, 12:00 PM
Hi guys,

I need your assistance on something I'm working on for the community. During my last trip to Germany a friend gave me all of the saved ID and documentation of a man who had passed away a few years earlier.

The stuff I have goes back to the times before 33' to 45'. I can read some of it but not all since I am not used to the old German handwriting. What I want to do is scan all of this and post it in a thread for the community, with translations, details, and explanations, for the purpose of showing some aspect of the life in Germany before and after the Nazi's rise to power.

I believe this would offer a very interesting insight into just how deeply the Nazis got their hooks into everyday civilian life. Basically we'd be creating a journey through a period of one man's life.

If any of you are interested in helping with this, please let me know here. I will start a PT in about 4 days to week where we can work on this.

The invitation for this PT is exclusive to native German speakers. Our results will be posted in a thread in GD once we are finished.

Some of the documents include:

Deutsche Reichspost Postparbuch
Deutsches Reich Arbeitsbuch
Deutsches Reich Reise-Pass
Inlaender-Jahresjagdschein (viele stuck)
Wehrmacht-Fuehrerschein
Jagdmunitionskarte
Kreisjaegermeisterkarte
Die Rechnungen
DDAC Karten
Braunschweiger Verein Fuer Radfahrwege(mit "Heil Hitler) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
und mehr.

This gentleman was also a Fabriksdirektor in Oberbayern so a little research into what his factory was doing during the war might also prove to be interesting. Maybe 109 parts? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


Anyone interested?

Fritz

MEGILE
09-11-2006, 12:53 PM
Guten tag, und vee gates mein uberklinker, die ubermeister ist in session.

Odirroh
09-11-2006, 12:59 PM
I can try to do some translations.

Odirroh

Foo.bar
09-11-2006, 01:23 PM
I can try to translate and rewrite old german hand writings.

DuxCorvan
09-11-2006, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
This gentleman was also a Fabriksdirektor in Oberbayern so a little research into what his factory was doing during the war might also prove to be interesting. Maybe 109 parts? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Maybe things you wouldn't like to know, about who and how were working there. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

flower-power_0
09-11-2006, 09:30 PM
Hi -

I'm interested. I'm able to translate some german and am also versed in the old german writing system (I've been doing some translations from old kurrent & sütterlin texts since 1999 (nothing very serious tho...))

Although I'm not a native speaker of German I might be of help.

C-B

Capt.LoneRanger
09-11-2006, 11:38 PM
If you still need another one for the translation, count me in, too. I don't exactly know, though, what you want to find out with that?

A driving license, a hunting-license, bank accounts and bills. Sure, interesting, but well, dunno if there's so much to learn about the period of time or the war in it.
For a second I thought about translating my grandpas Soldbuch (Sort of a logbook for the foot-soldiers), but well, I do have time, but not THAT much http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Pirschjaeger
09-12-2006, 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
I don't exactly know, though, what you want to find out with that?


Well, it think it's interesting to see how controlled things were in a very important part of history. For example, das Postparbuch, if I understand it correctly, it's a mandatory log book for sending and receiving mail.

Can you believe that during the Nazi reign, you needed a bicycle license? I have one of those too.

The Braunschweiger Verein Fuer Radfahrwege document closes with "Heil Hitler!" which I think is interesting considering there's no Nazi stamp on it. The documents with the stamp don't have that phrase.

BTW, I have the family's permission to do this but out of respect his name will be blacked out.

I know many in N.America are curious about the life in Germany at that time. This simply gives us a little window.

Fritz

KIMURA
09-12-2006, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
For example, das Postparbuch, if I understand it correctly, it's a mandatory log book for sending and receiving mail.
Fritz

Post<span class="ev_code_RED">s</span>parbuch = post office account book = logbook about received and sent money orders

Capt.LoneRanger
09-12-2006, 02:25 AM
Pah - you were faster than me, Kimura!

That's what I meant, Pirsch.

The German mailservice "Post" also acts as a bank. What you have there, is a bank-account-listing. As that time it was very rare people payed with anything else than money they got from the bank, there's probably only + and - numbers in it. Little more. Nothing that says something more than how much money he got from his account at what date.

To the other things:
Deutsche Reichspost Postparbuch:
see above

Deutsches Reich Arbeitsbuch:
That is a book that states what you worked at - as people used to work at a single job most of the time, this will probably bear little information. Much like todays "Lohnsteuerkarte".

Deutsches Reich Reise-Pass
A travellers pass. Maybe you find stamps in there, where he was, but going on vacation was not that common these days.

Inlaender-Jahresjagdschein (viele stuck)
A hunting Lizense for a season for guests.

Wehrmacht-Fuehrerschein
A driving license

Jagdmunitionskarte
Probably a sheet which states which munitions are allowed to be used for hunting.

Kreisjaegermeisterkarte
A hunting license

Die Rechnungen
Bills - probably the most clues about the person.

DDAC Karten
DDAC = Deutscher Damen Automobil Club. (GermanWomenCarClub)
I guess that are streetmaps.

Braunschweiger Verein Fuer Radfahrwege(mit "Heil Hitler)
That is not a bicicle license, but a membership-license in a bicicle club. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

joeap
09-12-2006, 03:32 AM
OMG, you need a bicycle license in Switzerland. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Actually a sticker for the insurance, hehe.

This sounds like a great idea, I have picked up some German, well my IL2 German is ok I can yell "schiesse dumkopf!" at my wingmen when I fly for the Luftwaffe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I also picked up some written German the way many Canadians picked up French, reading labels in the supermarket. Gotta admit those old German characters are pretty tough to make out.

KIMURA
09-12-2006, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by joeap:
OMG, you need a bicycle license in Switzerland. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif Actually a sticker for the insurance, hehe.

This sounds like a great idea, I have picked up some German, well my IL2 German is ok I can yell "schiesse dumkopf!" at my wingmen when I fly for the Luftwaffe. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif I also picked up some written German the way many Canadians picked up French, reading labels in the supermarket. Gotta admit those old German characters are pretty tough to make out.

In Switzerland you need a bicycle sticker for insurance reasons to drive your bicycle on public street, that's true. It's meant that the insurance comes ot bear in case of 3rd party liability thing. It costs aound 3 USD/year.

But the thread above is related to German bicycle knickknack. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

joeap
09-12-2006, 03:50 AM
Kimura, I am an ex-pat Canuck in Geneva so I know that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Get the sticker every year.

KIMURA
09-12-2006, 04:33 AM
but you're living in the french part of Switzerland, there's maybe a difference in handling things........ http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

BBB_Hyperion
09-12-2006, 04:51 AM
Count me in if it is not that time consuming .)

LeOs.K_Walstein
09-12-2006, 12:40 PM
Vielen danke, meine Herren!

Wallstein

flower-power_0
09-18-2006, 08:28 PM
I was reeeally interested. Is this topic dead? (it seems so......)