View Full Version : Takeoffs in a Mistel

02-20-2005, 10:44 PM
I searched, but darned if I could find anything... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I have been trying the stock Mistel mission that comes in FB Gold Pack. About 50% of the time I crash or have to abort the takeoff. This is due to the a/c swerving strongly to the right shortly after the takeoff roll starts (between 60-80kph). For the life of me, I've tried everything (lower difficulty, different throttle and flap settigns, etc.) and the only thing that seems to work is cranking the rudder full left immediately after brake release. This rolls me off the runway, but the right-hand swerve throws me back on. Any suggestions? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

02-21-2005, 12:18 AM
start snd engine and stay off the glue

02-21-2005, 01:25 AM
Several planes in this game are a nightmare to take off.
The Bf 109 pulls to the left quite violently, the P-40 rocks from side to side like the pope and the B-239 has a habit of going into a spin while still on the ground! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif
There are three things that can be done about this:

1. Since the Mistel is a multi engine AC there can be an asymetric thrust if the engines are not running at the same RPM at the start of takeoff. Start the engines seperately and make sure that you heat them all up before you apply any throttle. Switch to all engines and handle them as one during the takeoff.

2. When starting the takeoff, try to apply the throttle very gently, don't just crank up to 110%! Start by gaining some speed by slowly increasing throttle to about 55 - 60%. Wait until the airspeed has passed 80 km/h before exeeding 60% throttle. Remember: most AC - including the Mistel - take off just fine with only 75% throttle, but once your tailwheel has lifted it's fairly safe to apply full throttle.
This method uses a bit more runważ but it's the only safe way to take off in for example the B-239.

3. If you're still having trouble you might consider using your controlls to compensate for the pull to the right. Start by trimming the rudder fully to the left before takeoff, and then compensate if necesary. Generally: Always trim your aircraft for takeoff and then make the necesary adjustments when you reach cruising speed.

Hope that this helps you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

02-21-2005, 01:27 AM
Jarink, maybe you're not holding you tongue right. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Seriously though, I've found that there's no real trick to the Mistel. At most I've had the slightest of drift to the right that I compensate with just a touch of rudder. I generally don't use flaps with it though. I'm not sure why it's drifting for you. Is that the only plane that does it? It may be one of your settings... like maybe you've forgotten to centre you aeleron trim (if you're using it at all).

02-21-2005, 03:10 AM
Flaps to takeoff.

Throttle up slowly ish to 100%

Keep her straight.

She comes up nicely at 220km

Gear up... nothing to it.

02-21-2005, 09:45 AM
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">THE MISTEL IS PORKED!!</span>

I cannot take off from a static carrier or worse when it is moving backwards with extra fuel and at only 50% throttle to save the engine!!.............

Ok that's a lie, never tried just thought I'd horn in on this valid threads question to poke fun at the allied PF whiners http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

02-21-2005, 11:10 AM
Thanks, all, for the replies. I'll try some of them out when I get home from work tonight.

I was just concerned since it's such a violent pull that doesn't happen until partway into T/O. I've also noticed in PF when taking off from a carrier there is often a similar behavior (pulling or snappin to the right after rolling a bit), but since that usually brought me back to center, it was not really a 'problem'! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

02-21-2005, 09:04 PM
Sounds like your trying to force the aircraft to rotate instead of allowing it to due so with just a bit of persuasion. Try to attempt to get more ground speed and just pull back gently. You can't force an aircraft into the air by pulling back hard you'll just exceed max AoA and stall it.

02-21-2005, 09:08 PM
Ironically enough, none of the planes in this game have enough torque...or so we're told. Just imagine fighting more torque than we already have....woo.

02-21-2005, 10:46 PM
OK, it seems the problem I was having was when the tailwheel rotated. That's when the nose would snap right. I've practiced and am pleased to announce that I can now take off in (on?) a Mistel with relatively little difficulty.

This really must be the plane for me 'cause it's supposed to crash!