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okb001
07-05-2007, 09:44 AM
Hello,

I'm having a lot of fun practicing to fly the I-153, but its constant tendency to right-roll is wearing out my right arm and wrist. This is mostly painful when trying to maintain it in a level flight for a long time as I need to apply a constant left roll. Is there a speed at which the engine torque will balance this air frame property (I presume as the right-roll is more pronounced when the torque realism if OFF of when the engine is OFF)? For example, I found the I-16 very stable in level flight around 300km/h ...

Thanks in advance for any tip/advice(s).

Cheers,

LStarosta
07-05-2007, 09:48 AM
Hows about you take the plane out for a spin yourself and figure it out. Not being mean or anything, but that's usually the best way to learn a plane. Off the top of my head I can't give you any speeds, but just fly the aircraft by the seat of your pants.

I-153 is a blast, though. I like using it in early war servers, especially Finland scenarios where it is a pretty decent strike aircraft with it's 8 rockets or complement of bombs. I love killing pilots with those machine guns, and in Finland it can pretty much keep up with anything and you can sucker many a Hurricane or Buffalo into an angles fight and go straight for the pilot kill.

GIAP.Shura
07-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Oh, the Chaika is a great wee plane. Flown at 80%-85% throttle and 80%-85% pitch will give you fairly balanced flight but there is always a slight torque that you have to counterbalance. That will give you somewhere around 280kph.

okb001
07-05-2007, 09:51 AM
Well I have tried various speed for level flight but it keep rolling right for me ...

okb001
07-05-2007, 09:52 AM
Thanks GIAP.Shura. I never though about changing the pitch setting.

leitmotiv
07-05-2007, 10:10 AM
It is a powerful little biplane, and probably my favorite IL-2 airplane. It is a great plane for learning how to virtually fly and fight. As LS wrote above---use it. Nothing beats experience. The machine guns are superb, as they actually were. They will buzz saw just about anything. That torque is due to its powerful engine in a light frame. It has no trim tabs. You have to compensate with rudder. Another great Soviet fighter is the I-16 Type 18. Both of these are great learning planes. Make sure you watch your supercharger settings, mixture, and prop pitch. If they are not set right, both the 153 and 16 will dead ducks.

VW-IceFire
07-05-2007, 03:06 PM
I think there are general notes in various books about the I-16 and I-153 that they are definitely a pilots "hands on" type of plane so I guess this is showing up in this way.

BaldieJr
07-05-2007, 05:04 PM
Yeah what Shura said. When you get that low, throaty sound from the engine she'll start to fly straighter.

LStarosta
07-05-2007, 05:31 PM
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Lead-Brick
07-05-2007, 07:17 PM
A bit off topic but check out the throaty engine sound from the real thing.

http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/Flamwagon/?action=view&current=Poly.flv

That was the best engine noise we heard that day. The Mustang couldn't even compeat!!

dangerlaef
07-05-2007, 07:50 PM
Dous the il153 have aileron trim?

okb001
07-05-2007, 11:46 PM
Thanks guys for all the tips. dangerlaef, no it doesn't (sadly).

BaldieJr
07-06-2007, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
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GIAP.Shura
07-06-2007, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by dangerlaef:
Dous the il153 have aileron trim?

The Chaika has no trim whatsoever.

okb001
07-06-2007, 09:51 AM
Thanks for the video Lead-Brick, it's nice to see the real thing in flight http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

I took the I-153 last night for some more test flights, and sadly I don't seems to be able to reach any stable state. It either keep rolling-right or pitching-up ... oh well, I guess I'm not cut to fly it, I'll stick to the I-16 for now.

Thanks again to all that replied.

Cheers,

GIAP.Shura
07-06-2007, 11:07 AM
Don't feel downhearted okb001. As I said before, there is always some torque to counterbalance. I don't think you are missing anything, just a little bit of stick time to get used to flying the thing, 100% of the time.

If you are getting tired your joystick sensitivity levels might be too low, forcing you to push too far to keep it in check.

Anyway, if you choose not to continue with it, have a lot of fun with the I-16 instead. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

-HH- Beebop
07-06-2007, 11:15 AM
Great link Lead Brick. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Thanks.

okb001
07-06-2007, 12:23 PM
If you are getting tired your joystick sensitivity levels might be too low, forcing you to push too far to keep it in check.

That's a good suggestion, thanks Shura. I'll give that a try.

okb001
07-07-2007, 10:21 AM
I have found the following settings to allow the I-153 to be flown level with minimum joystick input (still have to correct for the torque regulary):

Throttle : 66%
Pitch : 60%

This gives a (slow) speed of 240kph.