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necrobaron
03-21-2004, 02:16 PM
Why is there a window in the cockpit that lets you see the nose-wheel? And is it just me,or does the nose-gear seem much stronger than the 2 main gear?

"Not all who wander are lost."

necrobaron
03-21-2004, 02:16 PM
Why is there a window in the cockpit that lets you see the nose-wheel? And is it just me,or does the nose-gear seem much stronger than the 2 main gear?

"Not all who wander are lost."

-HH-Dubbo
03-21-2004, 02:21 PM
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I see you tried to get it to shear off to see if you could look out the floor "window" LOL Me too.

Did you have any luck? I couldn't even get it off by bouncing it into the ground, although I'd managed to get rid of the rest of my gear in a high speed dive. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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necrobaron
03-21-2004, 02:26 PM
Lol! You're exactly right Dubbo. Great minds think alike.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I've gone 500km/h+ and the nose gear still remains! The other two shear off as expected. I've done some high-speed,somewhat rough touch-and-go landings and still the nose gear remains!

"Not all who wander are lost."

-HH-Dubbo
03-21-2004, 03:57 PM
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Yeah but it is a good question as to why. I'm assuming it's not open to the wheel-well and that there is some form of glazing between the pilot and the wheel. But what was the purpose of the design? (And I doubt it's to see if the wheel is up or down....there's indicator lights for that)

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Maj_Death
03-21-2004, 04:00 PM
That might well be it, there might not be any glazing.

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Gooner01
03-21-2004, 05:20 PM
I have an exploded diagram of the He-162 in an old issue of Air Enthusiast (June 1972), and it identifies this feature as "Window panel - (visual nose gear retraction check)". It may be that this was considered necessary due to the muscle-powered, spring-assisted nosewheel gear retraction mechanism in this a/c.

-HH-Dubbo
03-21-2004, 05:30 PM
Manual powered. Wow. Even in the Jet age.
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tfu_iain1
03-21-2004, 05:41 PM
to call the he-162 jet-age is going a bit far... more bodged together wooden deathtrap with flame spitting flame out machine stuck on top.

this is the only thing that disappoints in aces for me... the he162 just isnt dodgy enough. i want bits falling off for no reason dammit! i want horrible stalls and spins, i want accidental ejection seat activation, i want glue to come unstuck! give me calamity or give me death! in fact both would be nice.



don't get me wrong, im not whining, just having a laugh.

necrobaron
03-21-2004, 08:12 PM
Lol! That'd be a pretty interesting feature to model structural weaknesses. I bet people wouldn't whine as much about "uber" VVS planes if this was implemented. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

"Not all who wander are lost."

necrobaron
03-21-2004, 08:14 PM
Also,shouldn't the gear-up and down be mapped to manual use? I believe the I-16 is like this.

"Not all who wander are lost."

Magister__Ludi
03-21-2004, 10:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tfu_iain1:
to call the he-162 jet-age is going a bit far... more bodged together wooden deathtrap with flame spitting flame out machine stuck on top.

this is the only thing that disappoints in aces for me... the he162 just isnt dodgy enough. i want bits falling off for no reason dammit! i want horrible stalls and spins, i want accidental ejection seat activation, i want glue to come unstuck! give me calamity or give me death! in fact both would be nice.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Of course none of this was true for the operational model. Read more.

HarryVoyager
03-22-2004, 01:19 AM
What I want to see are the roll coupled yaw effects. The P-38L seems have some of them in high speed rolls, but those were more due to the boosting of the ailerons, rather than low wingspan effects found in the He-162 and F-104.

Harry Voyager

Adair_Smith
03-22-2004, 03:04 AM
Its been quite a few years but I remember Capt. Eric Browns account of his test flights in a captured 162 just after the war. I recall him saying that it was quite a good performer. Very good roll rate and excellent brakes but so many 'things to do' that it was not for the novice.