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GH_Klingstroem
09-05-2007, 02:39 AM
Ok I have been around long enough... Actually since the Il2 Demo came out...

Now I must ask something that has bothered me since Il2 came out.
Did we ever get a good explanation why tracers in this game have all the collours of the rainbow?!?!
I mean Ju88 gunner tracers are pink or light blue.
Carrier tracers purple and green (and some white)
German cannon rounds are blue.
Russian Tracers are green as lasers etc etc
Well guys u know what I mean.

I know some people will say that they contained stuff to give them certain colours but these colours are just not real..

The new A/C however seem to have properly made tracers. i.e some new Jap planes and some of the new italian ones...
Why was it made like that?! As it is now when flyng around, u can look at the type of tracers for a distance and see wether its an enemy or not...
Lots of people have made jokes about it (Tie fighters and X-wings come to my mind...)
Anyway did we ever get a really good explanation to this??

Cheers

FritzGryphon
09-05-2007, 02:42 AM
Did it occur to you that they might be correct?

Not all of them are red or white, despite what war films would have you believe.

Its difficult to find references to tracer colors in WWII, but I do know I've read about blue tracers in German 20mm.

Also consider that George Lucas based Star Wars on WWII, and was probably copying tracer colors as well. It is probably not a coincidence that the empire had green tracers and the rebels had red.

Some further info on Russian 7.62 ammo used during the war.

Tracers came in two forms. One version burned for green five seconds and covered 1200 meters (although it was required to reach 1500 meters). An anti-aircraft tracer was also created. It was unique in that it burned red for 800 meters as it ascended, then burned green as it fell back to earth. This version was soon discarded, but the first model was kept to the present day.
http://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain.htm?1890Ammo76254R.htm&1

GH_Klingstroem
09-05-2007, 10:25 AM
Well both german and allied pilots tell about seeing yellow/orange tracers when being attacked...
Never ever have I heard any pilot saying something like this:

-Suddenly I saw purple and pink tracers passing by my head!!!
I fired back but couldnt aim for my blue tracers were blurred out against the blue sky...- http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Jaws2002
09-05-2007, 11:44 AM
I'm not sure if all of them are exactly right but most of them are.



"That evening, two Japanese tanks charge the 10th Battalion. "The men were quiet," records the official history, "the silence was broken by a strange sound coming from the east...when a light was seen through the jungle, an angry voice yelled 'Put out that bloody light!' It was thought to be one of the battalion's Bren carriers." Instead the Japanese open fire. The Australians have no anti-tank weapons, and take heavy casualties. The night battle is brilliantly lit by red, green, and blue tracers, as both sides open up with everything they have, amid pouring rain and stinking jungle. "


"Left) Figure 25: A sample of two paper labels to be found on both the side and the end of the ammunition boxes and ammunition containers. All ammunition boxes and containers, no matter what calibre, had these paper labels attached on the outside to identify the contents. The paper labels normally measured 7x10cm Some of them could have a green, blue, yellow or red 3cm-wide bar running across them or in the middle of the label from top to bottom to identify what colour of tracer/fuse there was within. In addition, triangles in the corners of the label in the colours of the tracers are also visible "


http://www.missing-lynx.com/library/german/flakarticle_dmouritzsen26.jpg
http://www.missing-lynx.com/library/german/flak2_dmourtizsen.html

"Tracers came in two forms. One version burned for green five seconds and covered 1200 meters (although it was required to reach 1500 meters). An anti-aircraft tracer was also created. It was unique in that it burned red for 800 meters as it ascended, then burned green as it fell back to earth. This version was soon discarded, but the first model was kept to the present day."
http://www.russianwarrior.com/STMMain.htm?1890Ammo76254R.htm&1