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x__CRASH__x
01-18-2005, 11:27 AM
3.04 has no new planes like we were told there would be. Just a minor FM tweak. So, may I freak out now? Is that ok? I wanted to ask before I totally flipped my lid.

VW-IceFire
01-18-2005, 11:29 AM
Depends on what freak out means? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yeah, I was not expecting any more patches till teh addon. I guess they were thinking something else. It'd be nice to know a little more about what they are thinking...

Manage the information guys. I really don't care when the addon stuff comes except that we know a little more about whats going on. Everything is interpreteted and implied and we don't really know much...so we assume, and we're wrong....naturally http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

cueceleches
01-18-2005, 11:29 AM
Minor??? Do your really consider being able to take off from a carrier loaded a minor change?? IMHO this was my nº 1 bug to be solved in the patch, and fortunately, it is.

Good-Taters
01-18-2005, 11:35 AM
Two weeks be sure, Crash.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SeaFireLIV
01-18-2005, 11:41 AM
I was jumping like an insane Gremlin when I saw 102mb! Then installed and it was only 20meg?! Then I looked at the Readme... and what the? Nothing there. I dunno if it was even worth me d\l ing....

Yes, Crash, you are authorised to `freak` out. Add extra from me too.

crazyivan1970
01-18-2005, 12:13 PM
Nobody said that 304 will have a new planes. 304 was described as a PATCH from the beginning. There was possibility of inclusion planes in it... but wasn`t promised 100%. So no, you are not authorised to freak out as SeaFire claims.

Just FYI, Graphics optimization and FM tweaking took some time to complete. Addon in works, when i know something, you`ll know too. Untill then, a little patience please. Cause there are quiet a few surprizes coming your way.

Cheers!

20thFG-PirAnha
01-18-2005, 12:16 PM
remind me to talk to u about something that needs to be fixed, CrazyIvan, on Hyperlobby when i see you next

crazyivan1970
01-18-2005, 12:20 PM
You can PT me anytime mate

ComradeBadinov
01-18-2005, 12:25 PM
Fixed?.... try to take off on full size carrier goin 34kmph, with 50% fuel, 2xTiny Tim, 8xAPHVAR with take off flaps only..... oh yeah, make sure you have on yer Mae West, and swim fins.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif

crazyivan1970
01-18-2005, 12:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ComradeBadinov:
Fixed?.... try to take off on full size carrier goin 34kmph, with 50% fuel, 2xTiny Tim, 8xAPHVAR with take off flaps only..... oh yeah, make sure you have on yer Mae West, and swim fins.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was testing 304, please don`t make me laugh... every carrier based plane was tested with different loadouts.

If i can take off with 1943 Corsair MK1, 50% fuel from static carrier, with 2x500lbers... I donno what to say to you.

Asgeir_Strips
01-18-2005, 12:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ComradeBadinov:
Fixed?.... try to take off on full size carrier goin 34kmph, with 50% fuel, 2xTiny Tim, 8xAPHVAR with take off flaps only..... oh yeah, make sure you have on yer Mae West, and swim fins.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was testing 304, please don`t make me laugh... every carrier based plane was tested with different loadouts.

If i can take off with 1943 Corsair MK1, 50% fuel from static carrier, with 2x500lbers... I donno what to say to you. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats good, but the thing is, the carriers is running TOO Slow, 33 knots isn't 34kph its Nearly 65kph!!! Thats the major bug, a ship running on 34 kph is ca 15 kts WAY to slow for safe flight ops.. Its okay that the jeep carriers only move at max 21 kts but that again is abouth 43 kph!! And they used cats to launch the heavies or, fighters loaded with bombs or other air to ground ordnance, so Saying that 34 kph is realistic, that is total BS!!

x__CRASH__x
01-18-2005, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Nobody said that 304 will have a new planes. 304 was described as a PATCH from the beginning. There was possibility of inclusion planes in it... but wasn`t promised 100%. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm pretty sure Oleg himself said 3.04 for the new planes. I went looking for the thread and the quote in the ORR, but it's been cut loose and I can't find it.

Anyway, I'm pretty patient, but it's wearing pretty thin. If we weren't told 2 weeks every month, then I don't think half the people would mind. I presonally am good with just some info. Just keep us informed. It's the lack of information... or the little nuggets that we get... that drives most of us nuts. Then we get another patch without the stuff we were told would be there, and have no clue why.

Asgeir_Strips
01-18-2005, 01:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Nobody said that 304 will have a new planes. 304 was described as a PATCH from the beginning. There was possibility of inclusion planes in it... but wasn`t promised 100%. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm pretty sure Oleg himself said 3.04 for the new planes. I went looking for the thread and the quote in the ORR, but it's been cut loose and I can't find it.

Anyway, I'm pretty patient, but it's wearing pretty thin. If we weren't told 2 weeks every month, then I don't think half the people would mind. I presonally am good with just some info. Just keep us informed. It's the lack of information... or the little nuggets that we get... that drives most of us nuts. Then we get another patch without the stuff we were told would be there, and have no clue why. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I personally hate release dates, Can't they just say Its released when its finished? Is that so 'kin hard?

TX-EcoDragon
01-18-2005, 02:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Asgeir_Strips:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ComradeBadinov:
Fixed?.... try to take off on full size carrier goin 34kmph, with 50% fuel, 2xTiny Tim, 8xAPHVAR with take off flaps only..... oh yeah, make sure you have on yer Mae West, and swim fins.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was testing 304, please don`t make me laugh... every carrier based plane was tested with different loadouts.

If i can take off with 1943 Corsair MK1, 50% fuel from static carrier, with 2x500lbers... I donno what to say to you. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats good, but the thing is, the carriers is running TOO Slow, 33 knots isn't 34kph its Nearly 65kph!!! Thats the major bug, a ship running on 34 kph is ca 15 kts WAY to slow for safe flight ops.. Its okay that the jeep carriers only move at max 21 kts but that again is abouth 43 kph!! And they used cats to launch the heavies or, fighters loaded with bombs or other air to ground ordnance, so Saying that 34 kph is realistic, that is total BS!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Set the speed in the FMB

DeathRaider9
01-18-2005, 02:27 PM
Or you could just look at it along these lines:

Oleg and Co are still working on adding the new aircraft and what have you, but seeing the comments of the community have decided to address these issues before the next update was planned.

Personally I also seem to remember there was a thread saying new a/c would be available in 3.04. Do I mind that something else has been fixed first and there may now be a 3.05 in place of the original 3.04. Do I *insert phrase of choice here* !!!!

BlitzPig_Frat
01-18-2005, 03:10 PM
Nothing better than UBI Forums the day of a patch release!!! These threads are good ole' entertainment! Now where is the popcorn? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

x__CRASH__x
01-18-2005, 04:51 PM
I just want a little bone of information thrown to us every now and again. It would cause less shock when they change their minds on a patch.

turnipkiller
01-18-2005, 05:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BlitzPig_Frat:
Nothing better than UBI Forums the day of a patch release!!! These threads are good ole' entertainment! Now where is the popcorn? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Haha! Yup that's fer sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Call_me_Kanno
01-18-2005, 05:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Cause there are quiet a few surprizes coming your way.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This makes me tingle all over. To me the anticipation is part of the fun.

x__CRASH__x
01-18-2005, 05:36 PM
Please tell me you are a chick that uses a chick in your siggy pic, and uses phrases like "makes me tingle all over."

Otherwise... thats just WRONG!

Wolf-Strike
01-18-2005, 05:42 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifCRASH

JG52Uther
01-18-2005, 05:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
Nobody said that 304 will have a new planes. 304 was described as a PATCH from the beginning. There was possibility of inclusion planes in it... but wasn`t promised 100%. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm pretty sure Oleg himself said 3.04 for the new planes. I went looking for the thread and the quote in the ORR, but it's been cut loose and I can't find it.

Anyway, I'm pretty patient, but it's wearing pretty thin. If we weren't told 2 weeks every month, then I don't think half the people would mind. I presonally am good with just some info. Just keep us informed. It's the lack of information... or the little nuggets that we get... that drives most of us nuts. Then we get another patch without the stuff we were told would be there, and have no clue why. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well Crash i hate to say it as i like to think of myself as a 'fanboy' but i agree with you http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Recon_609IAP
01-18-2005, 05:49 PM
"Cause there are quiet a few surprizes coming your way."

sweet!

There is your bone Crash http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I recall for sure that Oleg said patch next, then soon after addon. This is exactly what is happening now.

Call_me_Kanno
01-18-2005, 05:59 PM
Yes, I'm a chick and I tingle.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Kanno/Shakinthem.gif

LEXX_Luthor
01-18-2005, 06:30 PM
lol Crash has the Patch Tingles

johann63
01-18-2005, 07:12 PM
sourpuss says

go freak out!

it may be good for ya

x__CRASH__x
01-18-2005, 08:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Call_me_Kanno:
Yes, I'm a chick and I tingle.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
*slides stool closer*

And what is the lady drinking? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BaldieJr
01-18-2005, 08:20 PM
Maybe she could drink some of the desperation you're swimming in.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

sunflower1
01-18-2005, 08:55 PM
My strategy was to shelve PF completely and just come back to it later. The memory leak is fixed, what in the **** are you guys complaining about??

At least it runs now.

crazyivan1970
01-18-2005, 09:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Maybe she could drink some of the desperation you're swimming in.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

x__CRASH__x
01-18-2005, 09:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BaldieJr:
Maybe she could drink some of the desperation you're swimming in.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
...and the water is fine

VMF-312JarhedEd
01-19-2005, 06:58 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/JarheadEd/pfnewt1.jpg

BSS_Goat
01-19-2005, 07:23 AM
A NEWT?!

402Cdn.Valkyrie
01-19-2005, 09:01 AM
I believe some of you are to spoiled, first of Oleg and others have said that the planes on the back of the box, witch have caused all sort of problems, was a mistake print. Second i give Asgeir_Strips somewhat right, release dates are not bad but MANY people put to much into them, a release date is a reference date that they believe it can be released, hence i dont mind the 2 weeks notice.

And then i dont think some of the people are here and just want and want think about what it takes to keep something like this running and pleaseing everybody as much as possiable.

ANGRY PARThttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
If you wanner talk planes that should/ should not be in this game, lets take a look at the GO the 109Z and planes in those ranks... So many in here keep asking for more planes, better FMs/ DMs, weapon loadout/ -adjustments and just plain bug fixes ALLL of the time and he does what he can to please us all witch i admire that he can.
And then if some error, human or other, like the time they had sick programmers, delay it you are over him like he was some villan. I think people just need to relax sit back and wait for the addon, it will come and i'm sure there will be something there you can kick Oleg for.
ANGRY PART OVER http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

I have the greatest of respect for Oleg and his team and what they have done for you and me, the flightsimmer junkies, and that he can keep the high quality this game has.

WUAF_Black-Rose
01-19-2005, 09:28 AM
I want the new clouds... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

GT182
01-19-2005, 10:04 AM
Give Oleg and 1C a break will yas. Your lucky that he's even doing a patch or the addon after all the whining done around here. He's not "obligated" to do a dam thing. He'll get the addon out if and when he and 1C feels it's ready.

And with all the cryin some of you are doing I wouldn't blame him if he walked away. Growup and act like responsible people. Never demand anything, ask nicely. When you do that maybe Oleg will listen more.

Waldo.Pepper
01-19-2005, 10:23 AM
This is an example of just how good PF really is.

http://www.errthum.com/troy/warbirds/pics/topgun.zip

Yes we are spoiled (by the game). But not by patch announcements.

x__CRASH__x
01-19-2005, 11:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 402Cdn.Valkyrie:
blah blah blah <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://everton.blogspot.com/leghumper_blair.gif

Asgeir_Strips
01-19-2005, 12:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TX-EcoDragon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Asgeir_Strips:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ComradeBadinov:
Fixed?.... try to take off on full size carrier goin 34kmph, with 50% fuel, 2xTiny Tim, 8xAPHVAR with take off flaps only..... oh yeah, make sure you have on yer Mae West, and swim fins.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was testing 304, please don`t make me laugh... every carrier based plane was tested with different loadouts.

If i can take off with 1943 Corsair MK1, 50% fuel from static carrier, with 2x500lbers... I donno what to say to you. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats good, but the thing is, the carriers is running TOO Slow, 33 knots isn't 34kph its Nearly 65kph!!! Thats the major bug, a ship running on 34 kph is ca 15 kts WAY to slow for safe flight ops.. Its okay that the jeep carriers only move at max 21 kts but that again is abouth 43 kph!! And they used cats to launch the heavies or, fighters loaded with bombs or other air to ground ordnance, so Saying that 34 kph is realistic, that is total BS!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Set the speed in the FMB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But that doesn't increase the actual wind over the deck!! Also its not realistic at all! A ship running at 33kts should generate well over 20kts of wind over the deck, over 33kts wind over the deck on a good day... Im no programmer, but i still cant understand the difficulty of just pressing a button, and the speed will increase like in RL so you could get safely into the air.. In Lock On, you just press "U" and you are positioned on the launch spot. In MP games the launch spot, aka the cat button will not be available until the aircraft before you take off.... PF is THE best sim out there, but there's still many flaws in it, Just Like The corsair!!! (Corsair is my fave bird)

402Cdn.Valkyrie
01-19-2005, 01:24 PM
Crash i'm glad you can keep the nice tone we did, and thanks for the very constructive snawer. When we speak to eachother try to keep the posts as calm as possiable because flamimg eachother wont get us anywhere.

Yes we are spoiled by the game but thats not what i ment.
I think some of the people in here are to used to just getting what they want... But from where they get the idea that just because they want that way that its gonna be that way i dont know where they get.

GT182 <> I agree with you 100% but try and keep the frustartions out of the forums.

XyZspineZyX
01-19-2005, 01:33 PM
The ban stick shall strike all ..... be sure.

TheEngine88
01-19-2005, 01:42 PM
"Just be patient..."

"Suprises are coming..."

"Two more weeks..."

Where have I heard all these before? Oh yes, i remember! Here. A million times.

BTW, nice fake Oleg above.

ElAurens
01-19-2005, 04:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Asgeir_Strips:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TX-EcoDragon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Asgeir_Strips:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ComradeBadinov:
Fixed?.... try to take off on full size carrier goin 34kmph, with 50% fuel, 2xTiny Tim, 8xAPHVAR with take off flaps only..... oh yeah, make sure you have on yer Mae West, and swim fins.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/1072.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was testing 304, please don`t make me laugh... every carrier based plane was tested with different loadouts.

If i can take off with 1943 Corsair MK1, 50% fuel from static carrier, with 2x500lbers... I donno what to say to you. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats good, but the thing is, the carriers is running TOO Slow, 33 knots isn't 34kph its Nearly 65kph!!! Thats the major bug, a ship running on 34 kph is ca 15 kts WAY to slow for safe flight ops.. Its okay that the jeep carriers only move at max 21 kts but that again is abouth 43 kph!! And they used cats to launch the heavies or, fighters loaded with bombs or other air to ground ordnance, so Saying that 34 kph is realistic, that is total BS!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Set the speed in the FMB <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But that doesn't increase the actual wind over the deck!! Also its not realistic at all! A ship running at 33kts should generate well over 20kts of wind over the deck, over 33kts wind over the deck on a good day... Im no programmer, but i still cant understand the difficulty of just pressing a button, and the speed will increase like in RL so you could get safely into the air.. In Lock On, you just press "U" and you are positioned on the launch spot. In MP games the launch spot, aka the cat button will not be available until the aircraft before you take off.... PF is THE best sim out there, but there's still many flaws in it, Just Like The corsair!!! (Corsair is my fave bird) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Um, did you not understand that you can increase the speed of carriers in the FMB? And when last I checked on my Triumph, relative wind does increase with vehicle speed.

Setting the carriers to 64kph (their max speed) absolutely has an effect on takeoff in teh game.