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spiren2008
01-12-2008, 04:37 AM
Dear IL2 community


I am a squad member of the 501st and am interested in buying this but I have a few basic questions about hard wear and population just basic stuff that a squad likes to know before going to the trouble and expense of starting a new game.

1. First question is being based in Australia we would like to ask how much of an Australian community there is in the game so if we choose to start the game we will know that we will have friends and opponents online at the same time as we are. It may also be required for us to learn trick of the trade from these other Australian squads and even for an alliance with them


2. The next question is where are the main servers based and what is the ping like for Australian players eg is it impossible to play online over seas and if so are there any Australian servers


3. What is the most popular of all the games as I can gather the top 3 are 1946 (crazy planes) pacific fighter and IL2 we would like the pros and cons of each if its not to much trouble just to get a grasp of the difference between each game its hard to find info on all the different games and how they are different.

4. Most of the squad have medium style rigs as in we can all play call of duty 4 on medium to high settings I'm guessing that this will be enough to cope with all of the games

5. Last question is we have had a choice between IL2 and warbirds now from what I can tell IL2 has far better graphics and seeing where looking for predominantly a WW2 fighter plane sim what would be better for us in relation to all the questions above (Australian players, ping whilst playing, online game play ect )

thank you all so much for taking the time out to read this post thew 501st prides its self on being a mature clan looking for new challenges we are small 5 to 6 at most but we have had experience in flight Sims lock on modern combat and falcon 4.0 which we played but found impossible to play online due to lag also we have more passion for ww2 style are craft and the thrill and skill it takes for a gun kill and the utter joy of flying such a simplistic yet beautiful planes eg a spitfire or a 109. We have seen how steep a learning curve sim games can be so we are prepared for that as well. thank you so much for replying and cant wait to join u in thew sky's.

GIAP.Shura
01-12-2008, 05:12 AM
S! Spiren,

Welcome to the IL-2 forums. I'll try to answer your questions as best I can.

1. Being a Europe based pilot I haven't had any direct contact with the Australian based pilots. However, some of our West coast US based pilots have flown quite a lot with the II/JG2 (http://www.jg2experten.com/) who are Australia based. There are three Australian squadrons in the list (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/48310655/m/3541009365) of active squadrons. This list is organised by the "virtual country" of the squadron so there may be more Australia based squadrons than those three, not to mention U.S. based West Coast squadrons.

2. Can't comment too much on this point.

3. 1946 is a compilation of all the versions of the game so far published and is by far the best option and the only viable one if you are interested in online play.

4. The rigs you describe will have no problem playing IL-2.

5. As far as I am concerned IL-2 is the best WWII flight sim currently available. Indeed I would say, without contest, the best flight sim for online play.

I hope that you choose to play IL-2 and, who knows, maybe you will shoot me down one (European) morning some time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

x6BL_Brando
01-12-2008, 05:45 AM
I came here direct from Warbirds six years ago along with most of our squaddies and never looked back. Apart from giving up the constant forking out for membership and play we were pleased to find that IL2 was several steps in front as far as online flight is concerned. Don't get me wrong - I enjoyed the years in WB and it's little brother Dawn of Aces, but I didn't miss the inflexible, profit-oriented management and the way inferior off-line game. I made a lot of friends in the iEN arenas, although most of them are now to be found in the Hyperlobby (http://hyperfighter.sk) where the majority of on-line arenas and co-operative missions kick off.

Because any of you will be able to host a dogfight arena or a coop, you will also certainly be able to get the 501st up just by exchanging IP addresses. I suggest you pick the person with the fastest, most reliable connection and a fixed IP address. Someone could even host a dedicated server, and you don't need a powerful rig to do that with. You do need a PC with at least a Gb of RAM and a DVD-player, along with a good graphics card and XP or Vista installed to be able to play smoothly over the Internet. There's tons of info here and at sites like Mission4Today (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Knowledge_Base)

I'm a Pom, but I do see quite a few of your compatriots on Hyperlobby if I get there in the (my) a.m. They seem a decent crowd, for Ozzies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist. Don't worry, my brother-in-law, who hails from Tasmania and reads here, will beat me next time he's over http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (Hi Ben! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif )

Version-wise, the only item you need is the IL2 Sturmovik '46 DVD. Every evocation of the game is there merged into one seamless program, covering the evolution of the game. You can fly in every theatre of war that the series covers. Only one patch (free) is currently required to fly on-line, although the final patch has been issued in beta and some of us are flying that.

The flight characteristics of just about every plane are different, but there are no great differences between the games that make up the series. The original game, IL2-Sturmovik, is not included because the 'engine' was different, although all the missions from Sturmo have been included on the DVD and are flyable.
Each release, and the many free patches has brought more planes, maps and features. Pacific Fighters, for example, brought aircraft carriers and most of the paraphernalia involved with carrier ops in the Pacific. Because the game is a merge, as above, you are not limited to where you use any feature like this. You can, and probably will, find yourself flying the elderly Gladiator off a flight-deck, somewhere off the coast of North Africa, or Norway, or where-ever. Just for the hell of it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The learning curve is pretty steep, but the number of people who are happy to set you on your way will pleasantly surprise you. There's even an on-line flying school running from somewhere!

I could go on at length, but I'm off to hit Hyperlobby and Teamspeak, and have a chat to the Canadian, American and British guys who make up our little gang. Then we'll get down to some serious air warfare.

I hope to be the first to welcome the 501st to the home of the best combat prop-sim in the world!

cheers,

B

Edit: 2nd 'll do! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Swivet
01-12-2008, 09:31 AM
Greetings Spiren!...

I think this squad is in your neck of the woods as well http://wte-anga.com/ They claim to be Australasian? Dont know if you heard of them already.

Copperhead311th
01-12-2008, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Swivet:
Greetings Spiren!...

I think this squad is in your neck of the woods as well http://wte-anga.com/ They claim to be Australasian? Dont know if you heard of them already.

They are Swivet. good guys too. there's a few squads from Oz around il-2. some are very old & have been here fora long long time. WTE being one of them.

Spiren
PM me a way to get in touch with you guys and i'll get you on our teamspeak & answer any questions ya have. i'm been here since 2002 and pretty much know everything that'd you'ld probly need to know. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

if i can be of any help juts lest me know.

AA_Double_Tap
01-12-2008, 07:16 PM
Salute! spiren2008,

My squadron, The Older Gamers, tend to fly on our own server, or the GA server, and access them through Xfire rather than Hyperlobby. Most of us are Aussies with a couple of Kiwis chucked in.
We fly with and against No.5 squadron, and RAF. They are a great bunch of blokes, and very friendly.
See you in the skies sometime.

Bearcat99
01-12-2008, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by spiren2008:
Dear IL2 community


I am a squad member of the 501st and am interested in buying this but I have a few basic questions about hard wear and population just basic stuff that a squad likes to know before going to the trouble and expense of starting a new game.

1. First question is being based in Australia we would like to ask how much of an Australian community there is in the game so if we choose to start the game we will know that we will have friends and opponents online at the same time as we are. It may also be required for us to learn trick of the trade from these other Australian squads and even for an alliance with them


2. The next question is where are the main servers based and what is the ping like for Australian players eg is it impossible to play online over seas and if so are there any Australian servers


3. What is the most popular of all the games as I can gather the top 3 are 1946 (crazy planes) pacific fighter and IL2 we would like the pros and cons of each if its not to much trouble just to get a grasp of the difference between each game its hard to find info on all the different games and how they are different.

4. Most of the squad have medium style rigs as in we can all play call of duty 4 on medium to high settings I'm guessing that this will be enough to cope with all of the games

5. Last question is we have had a choice between IL2 and warbirds now from what I can tell IL2 has far better graphics and seeing where looking for predominantly a WW2 fighter plane sim what would be better for us in relation to all the questions above (Australian players, ping whilst playing, online game play ect )

thank you all so much for taking the time out to read this post thew 501st prides its self on being a mature clan looking for new challenges we are small 5 to 6 at most but we have had experience in flight Sims lock on modern combat and falcon 4.0 which we played but found impossible to play online due to lag also we have more passion for ww2 style are craft and the thrill and skill it takes for a gun kill and the utter joy of flying such a simplistic yet beautiful planes eg a spitfire or a 109. We have seen how steep a learning curve sim games can be so we are prepared for that as well. thank you so much for replying and cant wait to join u in thew sky's.

Now let me see if I can answer these..

1- There are Aussies here.. how many and who I cant say as far as squads go.. but there are more than one...
2- See above. The pings may be a little high.. depending on host and clients... if all of you are in Australia then you should be gold. Even if you arent.. we host guys from all over...
3- Get IL2 1946.. See the Nugget's Guide link in my sig below for more on that.
4- The sim is very scalable... there are guys here with Athalon XP1800s on up to the latest Quad cores..
5- IL2 ... at least for me.

~!S!~

WskyStr8
01-12-2008, 11:13 PM
Try this site to see what sort of ping you get from your location http://www.speedtest.net/ .

KG66_Gog
01-12-2008, 11:25 PM
G'Day Spiren and your fellow squad mates!

There are plenty of Aussies flying IL2, some very active units and some not so.

From memory I will give you a run down,

My own unit, KG66 is a very active Axis Bomber unit with about 6 members, much the same as yourselves size wise. For more info on us, www.kg66.net (http://www.kg66.net)

Our sister unit is The Southern Cross Fighter Group (SCFG), they are an Axis Fighter unit and they have about 15 members. Together, we team up in campaigns against all comers.

The units above are very hard core, we fly full real and take our flying very seriously but not at the cost of having fun. If learning war winning fighter and bomber tactics in German aircraft is appealing to you then please drop us a line. In a nutshell, the units above are mainly into historical realism and advanced tactics.

SCFG website is at www.scfightergruppe.com (http://www.scfightergruppe.com)

The website for the current campaign system we are using can be found at
http://www.southerncrosswar.com/news.php

There are several other Aussie units,

As mentioned above, there is the Wedge Tailed Eagles, a unit that most of KG66 started with. I hope i'm not insulting them when I say they are an excellent entry level-intermediate unit to start flying with though there are many stand out individuals there. They fly in many campaigns and run a variety of special events. They are one the largest aussie units with about 25 flyers.
They have both Allied and Axis sub-units, fighters and bombers. Thier website is www.wte-anga.com (http://www.wte-anga.com)

There is also 450 Sqn. A RAAF Fighter/Bomber unit that loves (for some unknown reason), the P-40. KG66 and SCFG are involved in a campaign with them now. They are an elite fighter unit and worthy opponents. They have about 16 members. Thier website is at http://forums.dusta.net/index.php?act=idx

Another large Aussie unit is RAAF, they are dedicated RAAF boys obviously and are also involved in a campaign against us. They are a good sized unit with I believe about 12 members. I do not know thier web address.

There are several other units active in Australia that I have forgotten or just don't know much about, my apologies to them for leaving them out.

As for your system specs and capability, I think you will be fine. If you can run COD4 then I reckon your safe.

Pings for Aussies to Aussie servers are generally excellent, around the 50 - 80 range or better, occasionally only slightly worse. The units above have servers all over the place. Look for,

Australian Skies, Australian FISC etc.

There will be no shortage of Aussie pilots keen to help you though I will admit to you now, most will have an ulterior motive (like I do), and that is to get you and your boys either IN thier own unit or involved in a campaign as an allie or protaganist. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Feel free to drop any of the KG66 boys a line or PM me direct and I will do what I can to help you in whatever way you want to go.

Cheers,

KG66_Gog
CO
KG66

kid_SA
01-13-2008, 12:53 AM
il2, PF and 46 are not different games, they are evolutions of the same game. il2 is the overall name (and the name of the first incarnation, old engine, as mentioned) followed later by PF (amongst others) and then 46, which also includes smaller addons. Get 46, it's the whole package. Getting anything else will have you playing alone online with an unpatched game.

Pings are fine, even far away across the globe. The game does change a bit with pings of 500, but it's certainly playable. I'm from South Africa, so high pings are a non-negotiable reality. Just remember that the plane you see behind you is not where he is on his screen, and your position is not where you are on his screen. Besides that, play the game normally. Noone will warp or do funky stuff, and bullets hit without needing any extra deflection of any kind. Steady pings are key. Any packet loss and the whole thing goes belly up. I play on servers doing better than certain locals, even with my high pings (but unfortunately there are too many very good locals all over the world for my meagre skills)

Rigs fine.

Good luck friend. I hope to see you up there.