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fordfan25
12-31-2004, 04:55 PM
ok as some of you know i have made a few post about not being able to get the sair and hellcat as well as a few other planes up to there rated speed. with the sair its rated i think 670km/h at 6000m alt. fastest i have been able to get it was about 550 km/h or so. well i think i figured out my problem. i play with complexe engien mangment/off. i just play this game for fun and just never wanted to be botherd with haveing ajust things like that. well just for sh!ts and giggles i turned it on set my mixture at 100% "120% made the plane smoke like a chevy" and set the charger to 3. trimed out just a bit and BANG im hiting 680 km/h in Lv flight. so im happy i figured that out but now im a bit peeved as to why when a player chosses to cut off that option his plane is robbed of so much power. is there something else im doing wrong when i play with Complex engine mng set to off that is causeing me to lose so much power. like i said i have no asparations of actully flying a plane of any kind"lol can you beleave im scared of hights" so i just play for the fun of it. if its some kinda bug or some crazy thing like that do you guys think if i wrote to Oleg and reported it he might fix it?

fordfan25
12-31-2004, 04:55 PM
ok as some of you know i have made a few post about not being able to get the sair and hellcat as well as a few other planes up to there rated speed. with the sair its rated i think 670km/h at 6000m alt. fastest i have been able to get it was about 550 km/h or so. well i think i figured out my problem. i play with complexe engien mangment/off. i just play this game for fun and just never wanted to be botherd with haveing ajust things like that. well just for sh!ts and giggles i turned it on set my mixture at 100% "120% made the plane smoke like a chevy" and set the charger to 3. trimed out just a bit and BANG im hiting 680 km/h in Lv flight. so im happy i figured that out but now im a bit peeved as to why when a player chosses to cut off that option his plane is robbed of so much power. is there something else im doing wrong when i play with Complex engine mng set to off that is causeing me to lose so much power. like i said i have no asparations of actully flying a plane of any kind"lol can you beleave im scared of hights" so i just play for the fun of it. if its some kinda bug or some crazy thing like that do you guys think if i wrote to Oleg and reported it he might fix it?

IL2-chuter
01-01-2005, 03:19 AM
And don't forget: U.S. Military performance numbers are based on normal gross weight (no externals) and military power, not WEP.



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TheGozr
01-01-2005, 04:39 AM
make shure you are reading the correct gage. it's on the none cockpit view..

123-Wulf-JG123
01-01-2005, 06:03 AM
What's a Sair???
I can't find any Sair in the game, is it some sort of secret uber plane?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

fuser59
01-01-2005, 06:20 AM
It's not a 'Sair, it's a HAWG!

John_Stag
01-01-2005, 06:47 AM
Seems to me not using CEM is the root of most complaints regarding performance.

VMF223_Smitty
01-01-2005, 08:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 123-Wulf-JG123:
What's a Sair???
I can't find any Sair in the game, is it some sort of secret uber plane?? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SAIR -

South Asia Intelligence Review (SAIR), a project of the Institute for Conflict Management's website South Asia Terrorism Portal (www.satp.org (http://www.satp.org)), brings you regular data, assessments and news brief on terrorism, insurgencies and sub-conventional warfare.

SAIR - Scottish Archaeological Internet Report (http://www.sair.org.uk/)

SAIR - Southern Association of Institutional Research (http://www.sair.org/)


'Sair - An affecionate and rather silly pet name for:

http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/f4u-01.jpg

VMF223_Smitty
01-01-2005, 08:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fuser59:
It's not a 'Sair, it's a HAWG! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

HAWG - HAWG (http://www.babeonhd.com/)

HAWG - http://www.wonderfullywacky.com/pocketbikephattymarklarge.jpg

HAWG - Slang - 1a. Any of various mammals of the family Suidae, which includes the domesticated pig as well as wild species, such as the boar and the wart hog. b. A domesticated pig, especially one weighing over 54 kilograms (120 pounds). 2a. A self-indulgent, gluttonous, or filthy person. b. One that uses too much of something. 3. also hogg a. Chiefly British A young sheep before it has been shorn. b. The wool from this type of sheep. 4. Slang A big, heavy motorcycle.

That should clear that up methinks

Latico
01-01-2005, 09:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 4. Slang A big, heavy motorcycle <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hawg - Term generally associated with the Harley-Davidson 74cui and bigger. All others are wannabes.

Maple_Tiger
01-01-2005, 09:47 AM
Atleast Smitty will get awsome fuel economy. You'r back may become sore after long periods of sitting though.

VMF223_Smitty
01-01-2005, 01:24 PM
&lt;S!&gt;

I certainly don't mind if the correct nicknames for the World war Two aircraft we fly are used. They are both historical and a part of the color and glamor of these birds.

People who insist on using 'sair and "hawg" and the like are welcome to do so. Sounds rather dorky to me.

For accurate historical names for aircraft of the period see the link provided. You will notice that birds like the F4U had more then one, for example: Bent-Wing Bird, Whispering Death


Aircraft Nicknames (http://history1900s.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.mit.edu%2Fbtyung %2Fwww%2Fnickname.html)

fordfan25
01-01-2005, 02:35 PM
yea well im a trend starter i dont feel the need to conform to your opinions of what something should be called. so keep keep eating your grass sheep. ill keep flying my SAIR. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

yes i am useing the out of cockpit gauge. when in the diffuculty option menu i cut complex engien mangment off i can get the .....f4u up to about 680 km/h at about 6000 to 7000m alt. how ever when i cut that opyion on so the game sets the supercharger ect it will only get to about 550 kmh. same with the hellcat.

Takata_
01-01-2005, 03:05 PM
Planes are using two way to reccord speed: One is for pilots (cockpit gauge) and it's called Indicated Air Speed (IAS) and show plane speed vs air (recorded with plane's speedometer). The other one is for the rest of the world (enginers) and it's called True Air Speed (TAS) -&gt; the one show in no-cockpit gauge. The last one is the speed of the plane relative to the ground.

Planes performances are given with TAS, but your plane is flying vs air (IAS), and air density change with temperature and altitude. TAS is equal IAS at see level with perfect temperature, then, IAS decrease with altitude, bla bla bla.

Open a book or use google.

Takata_
01-01-2005, 03:12 PM
hmm, sorry, didn't read your last post
did you use second stage or third stage supercharger ?
u need to set to second stage at around 2500 m and third stage at around 8000 m for both plane.
You will have more power.

You will find more informations about that in readme files. It's different for each plane.

Takata_
01-01-2005, 03:36 PM
ok... lol
Forgot everything I said. It seems you do it right and both speed are not the same with or without CEM option. You are faster with CEM, I just tried it. Looks like a bug, you are right here.

Takata
(who should read carefuly before answering stupidities)

VMF223_Smitty
01-01-2005, 08:34 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fordfan25:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gifyea well im a trend starter <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

MuerteColorado
01-01-2005, 08:41 PM
the term sair sounds completely moronic.

sounds like a frickin sewing machine. very WEAK term to use .

clint-ruin
01-01-2005, 08:51 PM
I think the non-CEM setting uses quite conservative mix and charger settings [quite possibly - wrong ones entirely], and it also switches the radiator into a kind of forced-auto mode if I remember correctly. It will be very hard to hit the absolute top speed for the plane you're testing if the radiator is fully opened up.

woofiedog
01-01-2005, 09:29 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifSomeone say Hawg's!

http://www.rallyinfo.com/images/boss.jpg

http://www.rallyinfo.com/pictures/images/mainstreet.JPG

And of course the One We Ride Right Here!

http://www.aviation-history.com/vought/98023.jpg