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VinSoft1982
08-03-2005, 08:04 AM
My favourite is submerged attacks: I find it easier to get to 500m or so from a merchant undetected and let some fish fly. I never made it close to convoys or warships undetected if at surface.. From a submerged (Pdepth)position I can take more time lining up my shot (i have manual targeting active)than being on the surface where I get spotted from more than 1 km in good weather. In nasty weather I tend to stay on the surface a little longer, but still launch from Pdepth.

JU88
08-03-2005, 08:13 AM
Heh, I just had a surface deck gun battle with a flower corvett and won, in my IXB. I sneaked up behind it..heheh, really good fun - though It left me with flooding and and hull integrity down to 67%. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

KapYodan
08-03-2005, 09:13 AM
I just had a deck gun battle with a VW, and lost BIG TIME. I hung in there though. Thought for a minute I was going to get him (after he killed my best officer). He was the only escort to a good size convoy in calm seas. I had visions of tonnage in my eyes and it clouded my judgement.

homerthedoomer
08-03-2005, 10:15 AM
I even managed to take out a destroyer with the deck gun once. I didn't submerge, manned the gun at a distance of about 2000m and went backwards at full speed. The DD started firing like crazy but kept missing except for one hit that brought me down to 80 % hull integrity. After a couple of hits from my gun crew they must've hit something critical and the DD suddenly went ablaze in a giant fireball :-)

I've never been able to repeat that though...

Mylo42
08-03-2005, 01:29 PM
I will attack on the surface at night at a range of about 1200m if the opportunity presents itself. I appreciate the sharp eyes and judgement of my WO and use his expertise to give me range / distance which allows me to plot a very accurate firing solution. I also like the added maneuverability / speed of the sub and zoom power of the UZO. (7x). If weather permits the use of the deck gun...bonus. Of course, this approach is for non escorted merchants only.

aaronblood
08-03-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Mylo42:
I also like the added maneuverability / speed of the sub and zoom power of the UZO. (7x).

I wish the UZO had a 1.5x mag setting... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

I get within 500M and it's like... "OK, guys just fire a torpedo and we should hit it."

Mylo42
08-03-2005, 06:55 PM
Agreed, an adjustable UZO would be nice. Was the real thing adjustable ? If not, I prefer it left as is and just be "surprised" every once in a while by a big boat.

Funkasoar
08-03-2005, 06:58 PM
I take advantage of surfaced night attacks on convoys as I'm still in 1940. By the time I hit 1942 I won't be able to surface for one cigarette let alone a torpedo attack.

The_Gill_738
08-03-2005, 10:36 PM
The U boat commanders handbook seems to favor surface attacks. But I dont know why exactly.

blue_76
08-03-2005, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by The_Gill_738:
The U boat commanders handbook seems to favor surface attacks. But I dont know why exactly.

well, when you're surfaced you have a wide view with several people looking out for targets and destroyers.. i'd say thats a significant advantage over the periscope view. plus, you have the advantage of speed, thus allowing you to avoid the destroyers and to maneuver to a good position to fire. but, with the advent of radar, surface attacks were not much of an option during the later stages of the war.

captsteubie
08-04-2005, 02:20 AM
I usually just move in front of a convoy and submerge. I then go to silent running and wait for them to come to me. I get to pick out the big targets at leisure then. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Akula_971
08-04-2005, 02:41 AM
I real life, you couldn't see very much at all from a periscope at night, not much light to gather. I do the same as captsteubie, but later in late 43, 44 I have got to carry a few acostic torps to take out the lead escort and the one from the side I'm attcking from, then I get the pick of the convoy.

horribleron
08-04-2005, 02:43 AM
Yea, I'm in 1943 now. Surface attacks? HaHaHa! Only if you have a deathwish. Actually there is still the lone merchant that is lightly armed or unarmed once in awhile. But I just ran into a convoy that had 6 DD's guarding it plus Liberty and Victory merchants on each side (don't mess with those on the surface - they are armed to the teeth) PLUS P-38's overhead. I fired 4 FAT pattern running fish at the convoy from 1000m and bugged out. Somewhere in the middle of the convoy a T3 tanker blew up and sank (another hit but only wounded a C3 cargo). I spent the next hour evading the 2 Flower Corvettes that came after me. Flower Corvettes (the ones with 4 depth charge racks) are deadly to Type IX U-boats as they can turn tighter than you can so it's nearly immpossible to slip out of their circle patterns. But I used a couple of decoys for the first time and they worked! The DD's ended up camped out over the decoys and depth charged the snot out of them as I slipped away. I surfaced 2 hours later to get air to only be promptly pounced on by B-24's. 1943 is soo much fun.

Horribleron

PS - Did I mention my favorite key on the keyboard is "C" now? I never take my finger off of it.

Maj_Solo
08-04-2005, 05:47 AM
For every top deck hit that creates fireworks there is a chance you just blow one of the main turrets off deck. If you are lucky you can strip a DD naked. And usually you can sink them too. Though the risk involved is HUGE ..... you must strip it naked A.S.A.P. preferablyt before you are within 4500m distance, if you can do that then you have 4000m of approch to sink it.

aaronblood
08-04-2005, 07:44 AM
Originally posted by Mylo42:
Agreed, an adjustable UZO would be nice. Was the real thing adjustable ? If not, I prefer it left as is and just be "surprised" every once in a while by a big boat.

In reality, no, I don't think it was adjustable. So maybe not a 1.5x mag, but if you think about it a 1x mag setting would make sense right?

All I'd be doing is turning the UZO and looking with my own eyes perhaps slightly above the UZO optics to see in 1x mag if the direction I'm pointing the UZO is lining up a good shot.

Essentially, I'd just be using the UZO as an interface to the TDC for my eyeballs.