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kamenjar1971
09-16-2006, 12:41 PM
Would somebody post some good joystick settings for P-51?There is no way for me to find any good settings.Please help!

Bearcat99
09-16-2006, 12:50 PM
Be more specific..

kamenjar1971
09-16-2006, 01:02 PM
No Stall!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Bearcat99
09-16-2006, 01:29 PM
Download This program (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1021) and fiddle with the elevator settings.

horseback
09-16-2006, 02:22 PM
kamenjar, the fact is that settings are very rig specific; one's computer and controller setup are fairly unique and joystick settings that work for me may not work for you.

I've always had terrible problems with the Mustang since the introduction of the 4.0x patches, and on two very different computers, to boot.

Much of it seems to do with trim settings. With the CH Throttle Quadrant, the Saitek X52 rotaries, or buttons assigned to trim, the control surfaces of the in-game Mustang seem just too damned sensitive for accurate trimming-I get gross reactions from minor trim inputs from both of my rigs when flying the Mustang, which means that I'm always fighting the tendency to either climb or dive.

I can accept that some folks' setups give them good results for flying the Pony (or that they just don't care if it's accurate to the same degree as the other late-war birds' modelling), but some will insist that if you're not happy with how the Mustang is modelled in-game, that you either don't know what you're doing or that you know nothing about the 'real' Mustang.

My only advice is to tell us what kind of joystick or HOTAS setup you have, ad people with similar setups will happily advise you. You, however, will still need to experiment quite a bit to get the desired results.

cheers

horseback

carguy_
09-16-2006, 02:25 PM
It depends how much resistance your joystick has.If there`s no resistence you`d best apply a dead zone of 4-6 in the program Bearcat linked to.

Apply this for all input settings.P51 can be a very iritating plane to fly without dead zone.
You can also add some filtering to the pitch.

Those changes work wonders.

F19_Ob
09-17-2006, 08:04 AM
I agree with the above posters.

It took quite some time for me to find a middle way setting that worked ok on many planes.
For my stick (Microsoft forcefeedback stick ) these settings has been very stable and might be worth trying.

Ob's sticksettings:
http://f19vs.se/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=474

NonWonderDog
09-17-2006, 09:25 AM
I would suggest starting the sliders at 45 or so and increasing them towards 100 either linearly or in a concave down curve. The standard settings make the joystick incredibly more sensitive near the edges of a stall -- exactly what you DON'T want.

It's not just the height of each slider that determines the sensitivity at that point. The interval between consecutive sliders has just as great an effect. If you set the sliders to a parabolic curve upwards, as used to be standard, the joystick takes on a cubic sensitivity curve. A seemingly linear increase in the sliders creates a quadratic sensitivity curve, etc.

HayateAce
09-17-2006, 09:45 AM
You might as well be using the one below until mr oleg decides to make the P51 flyable.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002SAHS0.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

BillyTheKid_22
09-19-2006, 11:54 AM
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p1ngu666
09-19-2006, 12:03 PM
i did liner with the top at 70%
amusingly i couldnt stall a spitfire with those settings http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

SithSpeeder
09-19-2006, 12:04 PM
There are many reasons for "stall"-ing. IMO, the best course of action is to understand all those situations to the best of your ability and then choose the best course of action (or combination of actions) to remedy or mitigate those situations (in-game stick settings are just a small part).

Stick and Rudder covers this topic fairly well. See http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Rudder-Explanation-Art-Flyi...8130?ie=UTF8&s=books (http://www.amazon.com/Stick-Rudder-Explanation-Art-Flying/dp/0070362408/sr=8-1/qid=1158688965/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-9620061-0368130?ie=UTF8&s=books)

YMMV.

* _54th_Speeder *

Double_A2006
09-19-2006, 12:04 PM
One thing that worked for me was the stiffening on my flight controller. I am using a X52 that is real wimpy to move. I took foam and made a 5/8 " washer out of it and placed it between the spring and the base cone. Thickness of the washer you make will be up to you and how much stiffness you want. I have heard of guys doing this but loosing full motion of the stick. With foam rubber, you will have full movement and spring tension will double. This will aid you not move the stick so fast during turns and such and will provide a feedback to you as to haow far you have moved the stick. The only down side is your arm will get tired after a couple of hours of DF. With this stiffness, I can use all the default settings that the game has without stalling all the time but I do have my own profile. And it will make flying all planes easier.


And Of course this only applies if you have a saitek stick. Sorry my bad.

WB_Outlaw
09-19-2006, 12:13 PM
If you trim with an analog axis (slider, rotary, etc.), remember, you can set the sensitivity of the trim just like you can with the pitch/roll/yaw controls. I have the trim sensitivity decreased quite a bit near the center. This keeps the trim from bouncing the aircraft all over the place.


--Outlaw.

KaleunFreddie
09-19-2006, 01:20 PM
Here we go...
http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Pics/Pitch.JPG

With these settings I can 'yank' a FW190 into a tight turn (vapout trails) and hold it there without stalling. This setting (works for all sticks)is fine tuned for only the FW and has it's limitations for other a/c that are more 'user friendly'. Some might say that this is cheating, but it's not far from reality as one might think. All mechanical levers and chinks are 'tunable' on these non-fly-by-wire a/c, and you can get your 'groundies' to set this up for you.

With these setting you'll learn to use a lot more combinations of aerolons, rudder and pitch. This is what makes it more interesting.
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Edt: I noticed that a lot of people don't like the X52 spring weakness. I'm not sure whether this is just my PC but I move my stick full left and it takes a full second or so, for the aerolons to get to the required position. This is too slow for my likings so the X52 now has no spring, no filtering and no dead-band. Still doesn't make a difference though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Tully__
09-20-2006, 03:11 AM
Edt: I noticed that a lot of people don't like the X52 spring weakness. I'm not sure whether this is just my PC but I move my stick full left and it takes a full second or so, for the aerolons to get to the required position. This is too slow for my likings so the X52 now has no spring, no filtering and no dead-band. Still doesn't make a difference though
The graphical representation of the control surfaces is set up to respond as though you're using keyboard input. When using a joystick the flight model response is instant when you have no filtering applied even though the graphical representation shows a delay. The only exceptions are for trim controls which still have a slight delay.

Haigotron
09-20-2006, 08:14 AM
Best joystick setting:

Out the window I say, use your soul to fly man

OD_79
09-20-2006, 08:41 AM
For the P-51 the best setting is to just unplug it... then you can't crash!

shahram177
09-20-2006, 01:51 PM
As i recall many moons ago some one posted Mr. Oleg's stick settings and many people really liked it.
I'm guessing thats is what is being asked.
If any one has this information could they pleas post it?
Thanks!

FoolTrottel
09-20-2006, 03:39 PM
The profile published with IL2-Sticks, the contents of the file called 'Oleg.ini':

[Remarks]
ProfileRemark=Oleg's Profile settings

[rts_joystick]
elevator=0 1 4 8 15 24 33 44 60 77 100 0
rudder=0 0 10 19 32 43 54 63 74 86 100 0
aileron=0 1 3 6 12 21 32 44 61 81 100 0

Have Fun!

BillyTheKid_22
09-20-2006, 03:43 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif Oleg!!!!!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif