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neo7333
05-15-2007, 12:22 PM
Im new to flight simulaters, but they are really fun. I just bought il2 sturmovik 1946 and the game is really frusterating becasue I have no idea what im doing. Is there a complete newbies guide somewhere where it will tell me what flaps are for and rudders and trim and all that does?

Im desperate for help i really want to learn this game so I can have fun. The whole 3 hours that I played it I only managed to shoot down 1 japanese plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

PS I got this joystick along with it http://www.amazon.co.uk/Saitek-ST290-Joystick-Pro/dp/B0000AW9RE

FE_pilot
05-15-2007, 12:41 PM
Bearcat99 wrote a beginners guide for all the new cadets who are new to IL-2 sturmovik. it will help you get more familiar with the game:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9121094645

Here is another guide to patching up the game:

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&...9&page=1#Post2163129 (http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2163129&page=1#Post2163129)


If you need anymore help just ask.(there are many people here who are willing to help many of the new flight sim enthusiasts).

neo7333
05-15-2007, 12:43 PM
Thank you very much

Mercwolf2
05-15-2007, 12:45 PM
Here is a link to landing and takeoff missions. It is a great help getting off the ground.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/8911062445.

Here is a link to all the helpful articles and sites.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=400102&f=23110283&m=51910959

probably one of the best websites out there

http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&c=545

T_O_A_D
05-15-2007, 12:45 PM
Hello neo733

Look in my sig there is an upcoming Basic Flight School coming up in June over at Joint Ops Virtual Flight School, If it works into your sqedule maybe you can take it.

Other than that its a tough learning process, you might get on HyperLobby and try finding someone willing to take th time with you.

I'd offer too, but the next couple of weeks are booked for me on the weekends.

Next one small thing, here at UBI we adopted awhile back, not to use the slang terms for countries. From now on, just go ahead and spell out the Japanes in full please. We are an International community, and slang sometimes harmlessly used or not, tends to offend some of our members.

Huxley_S
05-15-2007, 12:46 PM
Im desperate for help i really want to learn this game so I can have fun. The whole 3 hours that I played it I only managed to shoot down 1 jap plane

Shooting down a plane within 3 hours is actually pretty good.

The fun of this sim is learning how to fly a plane as much as it is shooting stuff down.

You will need to learn about trim, about prop pitch and fuel mixture, how to stop the aircraft from overheating, how to take off and land.

Eventually you'll learn how to shoot down lots of aircraft, but it's not a quick and easy process. It's challenging.

Welcome to the forums!

Friendly_flyer
05-15-2007, 12:48 PM
The only way ti get the hang of this sim is to practise, practise, practise. The important thing is to have some fun while doing so:

Go to the quick mission builder. There you'll find a button labelled difficulty. You want most of the options turned off, but keep realistic gunnery and limited fuel. Then take IL2's with rockets and bombs and go harass an airport. Bring a wing of comrades, or you'll be shot to pieces on approach.

The old IL2 is a nice and trusty bird; just don't expect it to be a fighter. When you feel you get the hang on things, start to turn on various difficulty settings. The last one you want to turn on is complex engine management, that's really for the experienced players.

DKoor
05-15-2007, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by neo7333:
Im desperate for help i really want to learn this game so I can have fun. The whole 3 hours that I played it I only managed to shoot down 1 jap plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif Don't worry much, everyone that is playing this game didn't do well from the start

It's a tough game... but, you can always ask for help as FE_pilot suggested, in fact I also encourage you to do so... community will help you.

In the meantime here's the link to see how some of this stuff is done.... P-51D Vs 6 JPN fighters (http://www.esnips.com/doc/ddb4e551-b3f1-4385-9ef0-088103a7555a/DKoorP51D-vs-6xJPN-408) in the track you can specifically see why 51 rocks on high altitudes... no Japanese fighter comes near, with proper engine management & trim it just owns practically anything high up

BTW you can check out my 190 sig for tons of various online/offline tracks

Hanglands
05-15-2007, 12:51 PM
Hi,

As previous posters have said, its all about practice.

As somebody once said :

"The more I practice, the luckier I get"

Good luck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Xiolablu3
05-15-2007, 12:52 PM
Do you have a joystick? You really need one bad.


Imagine trying to fly a WW2 fighter with a keyboard - not pretty.

Try using some of hte easier options to get used to things, leave external views and padlock on, and also no cockpit view. Use full icons. This will ease the learning curve.

Ctrl F1 - I thjink is remove the cockpit, this should give you a better view of things.

F2 - is outside view.

F6 - is padlock closest enemy plane, keep tapping to flick through them

F7 - is padlock close enemy ground.


Fly something easy to start with such as the Spitfire IXc or the BF109G2. Get used to flying the plane around and keeping fast.

Always try and stay faster and above the enemy so that he cant get his guns onto you. Try not to turn really tight all the time, this slows you right down and leaves you vulnerable. Always keep as fast as you can.

Once you get a bit better you can turn off some of the easy options. But its overwhelming to go straight into full difficulty - I dont reommend it. I used to fly around with evey option on easy except for invulnerability and realistic gunnery! I used to love the game too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Blasting everythign to bits in my unstallable BF109G10 with unlimited Mk108 30mm cannon! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Remember that a WW2 fighter is not a Modern Jet, you need to treat it like a glider with a bit of power. It takes time to build up speed and height, and these are easily lost if you are not careful. Try to concentrate on mantaining your speed and height throughout a fight.

horseback
05-15-2007, 12:53 PM
neo, there is a .pdf manual on the dvd, and the Pacific Fighters Manual is listed on my Programs menu under Ubisoft: Il-2 Sturmovik 1946/Pacific Fighters Manual, so I assume that it was also installed on your hard drive along with the games as well.

Much of the basic information you are looking for is there, although you may have to dig for it a bit. There is also a thread 'stickied' at the top of this page titled "A nugget's Guide To Getting Off the Ground..." which you will find even more useful.

For the time being though, here are the main things newbies usually ask:

1. Why is my German gunsight suddenly offset to the right? The game is set up for two viewpoints within the cockpit in every plane; one is intended to simulate the pilot leaned forward to look through the gunsight, and the other is supposed to be his point of view sitting back in his seat. You can toggle between these views by hitting Shift+F1 (most of us assign a joystick button to this function).

2. I can't get my landing gear to raise or lower in my I-16 or Wildcat! Some aircraft (and not just those two) had their landing gear manually cranked up by the pilot rather than electrically or hydraulically powered gear. You'll have to assign a keyboard key or joystick button to "Raise(and Lower) Gear Manually". Bear in mind that you'll have to press that button or key repeatedly, to simulate the literally dozens of turns the real things required.

3. My telescopic sight is blacked out! Most telescopic sights had covers to keep them from scratches, oil smears, and so on when they were not actually in use. To uncover your telescopic sight, press CTL+D; in German fighters with reflector sights, it will give you a neat 'sunshade' so that you can track targets attempting to lose you in the sun.

Finally, some of the wits around here have one suggested remedy for every problem question from newcomers: Ctl+E. It's the 'Bail Out' command.

cheers

horseback

neo7333
05-15-2007, 01:01 PM
Wow what a great community, alot of help really fast ~

I got a lot of work ahead of me, im going to read and print alot of this stuff out and practise, what really frusterated me was I was on a carrier one time, i think it was the battle for midway, and i started my engines and power to 100% and my plane wouldnt move!! I was flipping out but now i know it was becasue of clutches or something and next thing im going to do is map all my controls.

I hope 1 month I will know all the controls

thanks guys

LStarosta
05-15-2007, 01:03 PM
Also, we don't use the word "Jap" around here because it's offensive to our Japanese friends like Bearcat.

Bearcat99
05-15-2007, 01:04 PM
I see you passed Mind Reading 101 eh.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif He is right.. but it isn't just me... The question was brought to the community and the Japanese members here indeed said that they found the term offensive... so it is best to just not use it... Japanese is not a tretch by any measure.. but if you just feel lazy like I sometimes do.. IJN or IJA works well (Imperial Japanese Navy/ARMY..)

Xiolablu3
05-15-2007, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by neo7333:
Wow what a great community, alot of help really fast ~

I got a lot of work ahead of me, im going to read and print alot of this stuff out and practise, what really frusterated me was I was on a carrier one time, i think it was the battle for midway, and i started my engines and power to 100% and my plane wouldnt move!! I was flipping out but now i know it was becasue of clutches or something and next thing im going to do is map all my controls.

I hope 1 month I will know all the controls

thanks guys

Its certainly worth it, mate, as the best part of this game by far is the historical battles between Axis and Allied online on the good servers. Each team has ground targets to defend and destroy in various battles from WW2, it leads to some exellent fights.

I wouldnt recommend venturing online until you know the bascis, but once you get the idea there are a few good servers with very easy settings, such as 334th server and Ukdedicated1. Both thse allow no cockpit view, have icons on, padlock on etc.

So get used to flying with all hard options on except for 'allow no cockpit', 'use isons', allow padlock.

To be honset all the turbulance and spins options dont really do a lot to make thing harder, leave all these on if you can.

Once you get online you will realise thatyou have discovered one fo the best games ever made.

T_O_A_D
05-15-2007, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
Also, we don't use the word "Jap" around here because it's offensive to our Japanese friends like Bearcat.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gifIf you would of actually read the thread, and the replies. You would of known this subject, had already been covered, instead you took the oprotunity to use the phrase your self. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

So now you see already neo the reprocusions of using it already. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

TheCrux
05-15-2007, 02:30 PM
Good advice. As they say, practice practice and more practice. You NEED a joystick for this game, it's not a "nice to have" thing, it's a necessity.

I second the recommendation of the Joint-Ops basic flight school. You really need to know how to FLY more than shoot A/C down. You can fly ( take-offs/landings, bit of navigation, basic maneuvers ) and everything else will fall into place...much easier. I learn to actually FLY and it makes this sim so much better..enjoyable.

Excellent course, though requiring a commitment of time for nearly 3 weeks and it is quite challenging, but the instructors are excellent and you'll come away duly impressed all the way around. Try to get in on the June class. http://www.joint-ops.com/joil2fb/default.asp

Sign up and you'll get all the info you need on what you need to do to prepare.

Jaws2002
05-15-2007, 02:40 PM
Hello neo. Welcome.

Here is a cool basic explanation of how aircraft are flying. You can read there about basic aircraft controls and how do they work, so you understand how to map your controls to your joystic and to know what actually happens when you press right rudder for example.

http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/aero/fltmidfly.htm

Taylortony
05-15-2007, 05:02 PM
Hi and welcome,

This site really has everything you could need to get started

http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~chapman/il2guide/fmbguide/intro.htm (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Echapman/il2guide/fmbguide/intro.htm)

Also if you go into the game folder on your PC there is a keyboard layout that you can print off, that will help too