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Sniper62_267
03-17-2005, 06:06 AM
I tried this bird yesterday and I seem to like it. It looks a little like a fw 190, but I could be wrong. But one day when i grow up I will be able to drive the 109's and 190's correctly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Being a newbee it seem to be a little better forgiven of my current skill level and allows for A LOT of mistakes in the air. The ammo seems to be a little limited as well as the armor. But what do I know I'm not experienced enough to compare it to the Top birds flown in BF. So I'm looking for some information upon it's strong and weak points and is it modelled correctly in the game. Also I notice that there is three different types of the Ki84 what are the differences Thanks.

tigertalon
03-17-2005, 06:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sniper62_267:
I tried this bird yesterday and I seem to like it. It looks a little like a fw 190, but I could be wrong. But one day when i grow up I will be able to drive the 109's and 190's correctly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Being a newbee it seem to be a little better forgiven of my current skill level and allows for A LOT of mistakes in the air. The ammo seems to be a little limited as well as the armor. But what do I know I'm not experienced enough to compare it to the Top birds flown in BF. So I'm looking for some information upon it's strong and weak points and is it modelled correctly in the game. Also I notice that there is three different types of the Ki84 what are the differences Thanks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hi Sniper,

Ki84 is for sure one of the best prop fighters in game. Flying it online in 1c version, is likely get you labeled 30mm-n00b.

Differences are only in armament: 1a has 2x13,2mm MGs + 2x20mm cannons, 1b has 4x20mm cannons, and 1c has 2x20mm cannons + 2x30mm cannons.

Flight models do not differ according to my experience.

JG53Frankyboy
03-17-2005, 06:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sniper62_267:
I tried this bird yesterday and I seem to like it. It looks a little like a fw 190, but I could be wrong. But one day when i grow up I will be able to drive the 109's and 190's correctly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Being a newbee it seem to be a little better forgiven of my current skill level and allows for A LOT of mistakes in the air. The ammo seems to be a little limited as well as the armor. But what do I know I'm not experienced enough to compare it to the Top birds flown in BF. So I'm looking for some information upon it's strong and weak points and is it modelled correctly in the game. Also I notice that there is three different types of the Ki84 what are the differences Thanks. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

a has 2 20mm canons in wings, 2 12,7mm MG in fuselage
b has 4 20mm canons
c has 2 20mm canons in fuselage and 2 30mm canons in wings

tigertalon
03-17-2005, 07:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
a has 2 20mm canons in wings, 2 12,7mm MG in fuselage
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Japanese heavy caliber MGs were 13,2mm, not 12,7mm.

WOLFMondo
03-17-2005, 07:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tigertalon:


Ki84 is for sure one of the best prop fighters in game. Flying it online in 1c version, is likely get you labeled 30mm-n00b. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ignore those people, there just annoyed you got behind them and shot them downhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

JG53Frankyboy
03-17-2005, 07:12 AM
Navy used 13,2mm
Army 12,7mm

PE_Mosor
03-17-2005, 07:21 AM
Japan had several version of HMG, one for navy and other for army forces.
Navy (Zero...) used Type 3 HMG in 13,2*99 calibre, an American M2 adapted to new calibre.
Army (Frank, Oscar...) used Ho-103 HMG in 12,7*81SR calibre (same ammo as Italian Breda), also adaptation of M2 to new calibre.
To complicate things even more they had third HMG! They used German MG131 (as Type 2 Flexible), used only in flexible mountings, but instead of using electrical priming as Germans did, they used percusion priming.

One most wonder how difficult it was for logistic guys in Japan with several differnet wepons in every calibre (3 types of differenet LMG ammo, 3 HMG, 5 20mm, 3 30 mm...) compared to their American counterparts, and widespread use of 12,7 mm M2 in all branches of service.

tigertalon
03-17-2005, 07:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tigertalon:


Ki84 is for sure one of the best prop fighters in game. Flying it online in 1c version, is likely get you labeled 30mm-n00b. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ignore those people, there just annoyed you got behind them and shot them downhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He he, for me personally, Ki84 is one of the sweetest targets, especially in 1c version. When in my D9, they consider me an easy prey http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. But there are some people who are not kind to 1c drivers.

JG53Frankyboy and PE_Mosor, thank you for info.

3.JG51_BigBear
03-17-2005, 08:29 AM
The only real weaknesses I've found in this plane is a propensity for fuel leaks and a glass jaw overall. The plane also buffets a lot but its not really an issue. Its a solid plane and is absolutely devestating against Corsairs, Mustangs and Hellcats. Its probably modelled fairly accurately. Although I doubt the Japanese actually got that much performance out of it with their fuel and decreasing production quality at the end of the war, but there's plenty of data to show the plane's oustanding performance when it was tested in the states.

lrrp22
03-17-2005, 09:11 AM
Hey BigBear,

Actually, there is not. The outstanding performance data are estimates that were compiled before any testing was done. The testing that was done apparently consisted of brief head-to-head comparisons conducted at Clark Filed, PI and familiarity flights in the U.S.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 3.JG51_BigBear:
...but there's plenty of data to show the plane's oustanding performance when it was tested in the states. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

han freak solo
03-17-2005, 07:19 PM
Offline, I'm invincible in this ride. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Unless I'm outnumbered 15 to 2 (my wingman and me) and we're at low altitude. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Badsight.
03-17-2005, 07:37 PM
the Ki-84 used to fly even more like the FW-190 than it does now , i prefer the way it is in PF over AEP for sure

& why do people keep bringing up the higher octane fuel ? it used , & was designed to run the 90 octane the IJA had