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jont122
01-04-2006, 07:30 AM
Hello

Does anybody have any imformation on the possible date of release?

Will it be release this year?

Best Regards

ElAurens
01-04-2006, 10:54 AM
My opinion, and it is just that, if it is released in the western hemisphere, first quarter 2007.

After seeing the dismal sales figures for Pacific Fighters in the US, I'd have to say it's gonna be 50/50 for UBI pullling the plug on the whole thing.

Just my opinion.

Popey109
01-04-2006, 12:11 PM
Do's any one have sales figures for the rest of the world?...one thing it was hard to find a copy of PF, and you can forget about finding a copy of FB or AEP. Also I think a few advertisement dollars would go a long way in helping sales http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif let€s hope UBI spends a little on the Platinum addition http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif of course if they were done in the west and with Flight sims...they wouldnt be releasing a Platinum addition http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif...just a thought

Foo.bar
01-04-2006, 01:56 PM
My opinion, and it is just that, if it is released in the western hemisphere, first quarter 2007.


and that will be very close to reality - in my opinion.

Troll2k
01-04-2006, 02:14 PM
I think they will rush it and get it out for Christmas 2006.

HayateAce
01-04-2006, 02:40 PM
Interest in the USA for this series or any subsequent series is flagging, be sure. The continued derating of US aircraft, despite being handed stacks of real-world data (dismissed as "propaganda") is causing more and more US players to look forward to a day when some honest competition comes along.

Case in point: The Mustang is a hopeless collection of gimmicks and overly-twitchy handling. It flies like it has 2 full fuselage tanks.

http://www.wearesoldiers.org/images/p51.jpg

Jetbuff
01-04-2006, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by HayateAce:
[an impressive load of garbage]
The only interest that is flagging is that of ill-informed gamers with only a passing interest in realistic performance. To them I say, "Good riddance!"

The fact that you fail to be successful in the Mustang has nothing to do with the FM and everything to do with the fact that you spend more time here complaining than actually learning proper tactics.

T4T-TheProf
01-04-2006, 04:50 PM
I think it would be a positive move if Oleg sold and distributed via the internet and not via Ubisoft. This is a "niche" product that will never compare well against more mainstream products. Also it's an international product and it's a lot more well balanced for it.

I think the American aircraft are accurately represented. The P-38 in this Sim, when used properly, is an awesome aircraft. The Mustang and P-38's were build to be long range, high altitude intercepter's, which they excelled at.

But if your going to fly them on a dogfight servers in turn fights, the kind of "furball" situation which no American WW II pilot would ever have been foolish enough to do, you will see the accurate result of what that encounter would have been, they would have been shot down for sure.

They are not and never were mis-represented as "dogfighters", they were long Range, high Altitude Intercepters.

The only problem in this Sim is you don't need long range and the sim is built for low altitude's, so it's difficult to use these aircraft to their real advantages. But it would be a real mistake to program these aircraft with charateristics they never had, just so they would equal someone's fantasy of what they thought they should be.

neural_dream
01-04-2006, 05:08 PM
most possible seems to be christmas 2006-early 2007

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/6651033273
just a poll

knightflyte
01-04-2006, 05:58 PM
If UBI pulls up stakes and bugs out on 1C Games I'd HAPPILY download the game for my pleasure.


If it's only available in Europe I'd import it.
I think someone would be able to translate text....audio files.

I know of many who did this for the German version of GTR from Sim Bin.

As far as WHEN? Late this year or early next year.

airjunkie
01-04-2006, 08:52 PM
Ok! Everybody lets try to guess my weight age and date of birth.

p.s. Walmart (A large store here in the states) still carries pacific fighters so that may or maynot be a good sign about sales. Or.... It may be drop and pick by 1c which would a different web site for everyone to guess when Battle for Italy will be released.

neural_dream
01-04-2006, 10:07 PM
75kgs, 1981 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif?

darkhorizon11
01-04-2006, 11:17 PM
Well I ask you this... how long did it take them to make the original IL2 from the first coding to gold? IIRC Serious work probably started on BoB sometime in mid-summer 2004.

crazyivan1970
01-04-2006, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
IIRC Serious work probably started on BoB sometime in mid-summer 2004.

Good guess... but Add 1 year to it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Viper2005_
01-04-2006, 11:44 PM
Given the rate at which hardware performance improves, starting serious development of a PC game more than a few years before release must be very difficult.

Assuming speed doubles every 1.5 years, and a release date of 2007, available processing power as a function of processing power at release varies as follows:

2006 = 63%
2005 = 40%
2004 = 25%
2003 = 16%
2002 = 10%

My heart goes out to Oleg in the face of the difficulties that this must present.

skabbe
01-06-2006, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by HayateAce:
Interest in the USA for this series or any subsequent series is flagging, be sure. The continued derating of US aircraft, despite being handed stacks of real-world data (dismissed as "propaganda") is causing more and more US players to look forward to a day when some honest competition comes along.

Case in point: The Mustang is a hopeless collection of gimmicks and overly-twitchy handling. It flies like it has 2 full fuselage tanks.

http://www.wearesoldiers.org/images/p51.jpg

hahaha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

waffen-79
01-06-2006, 01:12 PM
@HayateAce
You know the mustang wasn't meant to fly with a Full Fuselage tank do you?

Guys why did PF sales failed? was it the reviews?

And why so many ppl bought CFS3?

msalama
01-06-2006, 01:13 PM
Case in point: The Mustang is a hopeless collection of gimmicks and overly-twitchy handling. It flies like it has 2 full fuselage tanks.

Yeah, well, if this here is c**p and there's no competition, why, you can always write your own IMPARTIAL sim can't you??? Should be easy for a Yank like you, being all opinionate, gung-ho and competetive and s**t...

So you just git cracking, bo. We're waiting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RS_Deacon
01-06-2006, 01:40 PM
i thought it was coming out in two weeks..... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

dbuff
01-06-2006, 01:43 PM
IL2 did great because it was breaking new
ground - No one had ever seen ANYTHING like it.
The game play, the theatre, the realism.
Dont even say MFS. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

PF wasnt a new game, it was a relatively old game with new planes-maps. I am a fanboy and brag about IL2 to anyone who will listen, but I didnt rush to buy PF. I do love the overall FM in 4.02. Thank you Oleg.

If BoB is really going to make a splash - It will have to be more than a just sequel to IL2.
It will need to innovative and fresh like the famous IL2.

Heck, IL2/AEP/PF is still a kick *** game. Just what is going to make alot of ex and current il2 players buy BoB?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif If UBI gives him any ****, Oleg should think about STEAM.

Chivas
01-06-2006, 06:24 PM
I predict huge sales for BOB in the US market. Oleg will time the release to coincide with the Movie release of BOB, staring Tom Cruise. When the americans find out there was Battle of Britain and it was won by a single American, they won't be able to keep it on the shelves. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif All kidding aside, this can't help but draw interest to the game.

nickdanger3
01-06-2006, 06:54 PM
Re. The Few, aka the Tom Cruise BoB movie: there's been a conspicuous absence of any news on this for a while. I wonder if it got killed...

Danschnell
01-07-2006, 10:10 AM
I had BOB slated for some time in 2008. For them to fully do it properly takes time. As we all know, a patch can take a year, so a full game will be at least 2 years away.

With regards the FMs, those American planes are fantastic. They walk all over the competition if you know how to fly them. A Mustang is easy to stall, but if you are gentle on the stick so you don't stall it, it turns waaay better than a 190, and about the same as a 109. Its also fast too. Up high the Mustang, and especially the P47, reigns supreme. Even the Ta152, which was supposedly built for high altitude, won't outrun the P47D. Supposedly IRL the Ta152 could outrun anything... but not in the game.
If anything the Axis planes have been undermodelled, but that doesn't mean that American pilots won't complain just because they are used to representations of their country's planes in games and films which are able to get 10 kills to every one of their planes lost. In the real world, the enemy still had guns too, and in the real world, you had to use proper tactics, or get massacred anyway.
A poorly flown P51 is still an easy kill for a well flown 190, even if the Axis planes are undermodelled.

Sharkey888
01-07-2006, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Danschnell:
....10 kills to every one of their planes lost...

Germany-117,000......France-900
Japan-40,000.........Poland-400
Italy-5,300..........USSR-120,000
Finland-600..........UK-22,000
.....................USA-45,000

Not quite http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ElAurens
01-07-2006, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Danschnell:
A Mustang... turns about the same as a 109.

What sim is that you are flying? It sure is not this one.

GR142-Pipper
01-08-2006, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by T4T-TheProf:
I think the American aircraft are accurately represented. The P-38 in this Sim, when used properly, is an awesome aircraft. The Mustang and P-38's were build to be long range, high altitude intercepter's, which they excelled at. Respectfully, not so. They were long range escort fighters. This is a significantly different type of aircraft than just an interceptor. The purpose of an escort fighter was to help bombers reach their targets by keeping opposing fighters off of them. In this role, it was necessary for the escorts to not only to engage but to also prevail in those engagements. Yes, the P-38 has justifiably been improved in this game to be a much better performer. However, the P-51 and P-47 (and F4U) have not. They're weak and have been so since their introduction.

The simple proof of this is that in the real world the P-38's were replaced in this role by P-47's and P-51's. As modeled in this game, it would have been the other way around.

At the end of the day and as I definitely enjoy this game, I hope that BoB's flight/damage/firepower modeling is closer to reality for more types of aircraft than what we've seen in IL-2/FB/PF (no knock...just things improving with age and all that). If it lives up to the "just wait" hype here on the forum, it will. Introduction date guess? Summer 2007.

GR142-Pipper

heywooood
01-08-2006, 12:22 PM
the ability to select and then drain the fuel tank of your choice would go FAR to dispel some of the bitterness WRT the Mustangs FM and other types as well.

'complex engine mgmt' as modeled by Oleg is weak at best...and everyone knows it.

darkhorizon11
01-10-2006, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Danschnell:
I had BOB slated for some time in 2008. For them to fully do it properly takes time. As we all know, a patch can take a year, so a full game will be at least 2 years away.

With regards the FMs, those American planes are fantastic. They walk all over the competition if you know how to fly them. A Mustang is easy to stall, but if you are gentle on the stick so you don't stall it, it turns waaay better than a 190, and about the same as a 109. Its also fast too. Up high the Mustang, and especially the P47, reigns supreme. Even the Ta152, which was supposedly built for high altitude, won't outrun the P47D. Supposedly IRL the Ta152 could outrun anything... but not in the game.
If anything the Axis planes have been undermodelled, but that doesn't mean that American pilots won't complain just because they are used to representations of their country's planes in games and films which are able to get 10 kills to every one of their planes lost. In the real world, the enemy still had guns too, and in the real world, you had to use proper tactics, or get massacred anyway.
A poorly flown P51 is still an easy kill for a well flown 190, even if the Axis planes are undermodelled.

lets see some numbers, the 47D was pretty fast