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bmoffa
07-05-2007, 03:46 PM
Has anyone heard of or tried a CyMouse? It seems to be the only TrackIR competetor. It is only $79. It looks good and sounds like it does pretty much the same things as the TrakIR. I don't know if it works with IL-2.

If you want to see it go to http://cwonline.com/store/view_product.asp?Product=1349

Crash_Moses
07-05-2007, 03:59 PM
Hmmmm...interesting. According to the manufacturer's website ( http://www.cymouse.com/index.html ) it works with any game that accepts keyboard and mouse input.

Sounds like it would work with Il-2. I imagine it takes over control of the mouse and thus doesn't require native support like TrackIR. Not sure how it handles the 6DOF though. But it's moot as IL-2 doesn't support 6DOF anyway.

If you get it, post a review. I'm curious...

Crash_Moses
07-05-2007, 04:04 PM
A couple of reviews:

http://www.lanparty.com/articles/CyMouse/

http://www.wired.com/gaming/gamingreviews/news/2003/07/59808

bmoffa
07-05-2007, 04:19 PM
I don't know if I want to try one--looks like a lot of wires. I really like the TrackIR, but it stopped working and I think Natraul Point is giving me the run-around on the warranty. I've only had it for three months. I was on e-mail with their support all day Tuesday and tried everthing they asked. I haven't heard from them since and I have sent them several more e-mails.

Divine-Wind
07-05-2007, 04:29 PM
TrackIR doesn't make you look as geeky.

FE_pilot
07-05-2007, 04:37 PM
I think i will stick to my Track Ir 2.

BrotherVoodoo
07-05-2007, 06:52 PM
I'm not thinking this works like TIR. "Moving your head "up", "down", "left", or "right" are also detected and can become computer control functions. " "By allowing 8 distinct "controls" with your head you can have Cymouse Technology work with all of your existing computer control devices."
The descriptions sounds more like a keyboard binding to a head movement/position which is not like TIR at all. That sounds more like a game pad for your head. TIR is like smooth mouse look in any direction. 6DOF adds leaning in all directions, and sitting up or slouching again, smoothly.
Maybe I am wrong about Cymouse, can anybody confirm.

Ares_336sqn
07-05-2007, 07:06 PM
"Cymouse can detect the movement of your head and translate that to computer control, For example "looking up, down, left, right" emulates the cursor control of your desktop mouse. Moving your head "toward the monitor or away from the monitor" is also detected and can be programmed to be computer control functions. Moving your head "up", "down", "left", or "right" are also detected and can become computer control functions."

That sounds like TIR 6DOF to me at half the price.

And (according to the info at their website) it emulates the mouse movement, not button strokings.

Competition is a good thing anyway.

BrotherVoodoo
07-05-2007, 07:35 PM
Copy that Ares, missed that I guess. It would probably work alright for most games based on that including IL2. However I am also thinking of games like ARMA where you look with the TIR and still traditionally aim/point your body with the mouse. I wonder if this product will work for such FPS games.

BrotherVoodoo
07-05-2007, 07:38 PM
"Play online, first person shooter, action, strategy, role-play, driving and flight simulation games"
Missed that too, maybe it is TIR at half the price... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif Sorry for any confusion folks. Someones gonna have to bite the bullet and get one then let us know.

Crash_Moses
07-05-2007, 07:42 PM
So basically it simply acts as a mouse and uses key bindings for zooming in and out to simulate leaning forward and back.

A poor man's TIR then. Hmmm...not bad for the flight sim enthusiast on a budget. I wonder how it would compare to Freelook.

Anybody use Freelook?

Ares_336sqn
07-05-2007, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
So basically it simply acts as a mouse and uses key bindings for zooming in and out to simulate leaning forward and back.

No, not at all, according to their website always.

Quote from the site:
"Cymouse is a precision, six degree-of-freedom positional and angular head tracking device"

You can bind keys to any head movement if you want to.

The question is, does it work as well as TIR?

bmoffa
07-05-2007, 08:18 PM
I think the big missing part is the ability to configure the graduated curves like you can with the TIR. If it just mimics mouse movements it will pan with the slightest movement. I saw a comment on that in one of the reviews.

Divine-Wind
07-05-2007, 08:24 PM
Yeah, doesn't seem as refined as TrackIR. Also, as mentioned before, it's a lot less fashionable. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

NP_Vincent
07-06-2007, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by bmoffa:
I don't know if I want to try one--looks like a lot of wires. I really like the TrackIR, but it stopped working and I think Natraul Point is giving me the run-around on the warranty. I've only had it for three months. I was on e-mail with their support all day Tuesday and tried everthing they asked. I haven't heard from them since and I have sent them several more e-mails.

Sometimes it takes a little while for me to get to emails, especially after a weekend, or holiday....

bmoffa
07-06-2007, 06:14 PM
Just thought everybody should know, Natural Point is making good on the warranty. Guess the holiday slowed things down a bit.

By the way, I just ordered another one for my son so he can fly with me.

BfHeFwMe
07-06-2007, 09:53 PM
Do they still require you to drill two mounting screws into your forehead?