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blakduk
07-28-2006, 01:04 AM
Here's a picture story of a mission i recently flew in an F4F that demonstrates how rugged this plane is in this game...http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat01.jpg
Taking off, minding my own business when i just manage to dodge a bomb..
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat02.jpg
Or so i thought. I was playing without externals on and thought the only damage i had suffered was minor.http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat03.jpg
A few holes in the canopy, a buckled plate on the wing, gauges all working fine, controls a little bit loose.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat04.jpg
I had no idea the elevator had gone!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat05.jpg
So i gained some height, looked for prey, and turned to attack.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat06.jpg
I got on this guys six and hammered himhttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat07.jpg
He was easy prey.http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat08.jpg
I checked around, saw another easy mark..http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat09.jpg
And took him out toohttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat10.jpg
Things were going swimmingly, so i kept onhttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat11.jpg
I line up another one with a diving pass...http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat13.jpg
Another success!http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat15.jpg
I turned for home and another one dropped into my sightshttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat16.jpg
I love hitting that sweetspot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gifhttp://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat17.jpg
So i got back into the landing pattern..http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y117/blakduk/Wildcat19.jpg
Honestly it wasnt until i played the track back that i saw how much damage i had suffered from that first explosion http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
I think i fly better with only half my controls working.

joeap
07-28-2006, 01:54 AM
Excellent shots... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

stansdds
07-28-2006, 05:01 AM
Just proves the axiom "what you don't know won't hurt you."

Great shots!

badaboom.1
07-28-2006, 06:09 AM
Yea,She takes a lick'in......but keeps on tick'in http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifNice shots btw.

DmdSeeker
07-28-2006, 06:26 AM
I've noticed before that sometimes I'm MORE effective with half a tail missing!

I put it down to the fact that I probably "yank and bank" too much; and the artificially limited amount of "yank" one achieves with a missing elevator saves me a lot of the "E" I probably waste through being over eager.

I bet if you review your track again; you'll probably find your average speed was higher than usual.

All in all the whole experience is probably very good training to make the transition from being a turn 'n burn maniac (which is usually considered as the Wildcat's strength) to being an energy fighter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
07-28-2006, 06:49 AM
Personally, I fly the F4F as an energy fighter/ ammo sponge. It's one of my favorite rides in the entire sim and in historically accurate planesets it can't turn more than 1 circuit with a Zero before he can latch on to my 6, but with a nice energy advantage I can usually dictate the rules of engagement quite nicely.

oh, and I'd always prefer to have BOTH elevator fins on my aircraft.

Nice shots. These picture narratives are always fun to see.



TB

Irish_Rogues
07-28-2006, 07:10 AM
Nice shots. These picture narratives are always fun to see.

Agreed, they say a picture is worth a thousand word. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

p1ngu666
07-28-2006, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by TgD Thunderbolt56:
Personally, I fly the F4F as an energy fighter/ ammo sponge. It's one of my favorite rides in the entire sim and in historically accurate planesets it can't turn more than 1 circuit with a Zero before he can latch on to my 6, but with a nice energy advantage I can usually dictate the rules of engagement quite nicely.

oh, and I'd always prefer to have BOTH elevator fins on my aircraft.

Nice shots. These picture narratives are always fun to see.



TB

much easier todo that ingame than irl.

irl zero faster and climb better, not ingame http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

nice run and screenies http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Warrington_Wolf
07-28-2006, 12:35 PM
Is that the stock USMC campaign?
Ive just started that and really came unglued on the 2nd mission, I had to intercept roughly 15 zeroes with only 3 ******* wingmen. It was usually the case that my wingies would do something moronic and get themselves shot down, then I get beasted by half a dozen zeroes.
Also I cannot seem to do much damage with the guns, I think I need to adjust my convergence because I know that I am hitting them but not doing enough damage. I know the guns are good because I could used to light up the buggers without too much trouble.

P.S. I used to fly the F4F in CFS2, just got to say that I love the this plane to bits. It is tough yet fun and suprisingly maneuverable, Its a real gem http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Tater-SW-
07-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Course you still lose aileron control in an F4F in game if someone so much as looks at you funny.

tater

Akronnick
07-28-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
Is that the stock USMC campaign?
Ive just started that and really came unglued on the 2nd mission, I had to intercept roughly 15 zeroes with only 3 ******* wingmen. It was usually the case that my wingies would do something moronic and get themselves shot down, then I get beasted by half a dozen zeroes.
Also I cannot seem to do much damage with the guns, I think I need to adjust my convergence because I know that I am hitting them but not doing enough damage. I know the guns are good because I could used to light up the buggers without too much trouble.

P.S. I used to fly the F4F in CFS2, just got to say that I love the this plane to bits. It is tough yet fun and suprisingly maneuverable, Its a real gem http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Those are pretty close to historical odds for Wake Island and/or Midway, but IRL, most Marine Pilots were in Buffalos!

Divine-Wind
07-28-2006, 05:48 PM
Ah, I love the Wildcat. In fact, it's the plane I learned how to dogfight (virtually, of course - I can't dogfight for beans in real life http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif) in in CFS2.

I love those screenshots, by the way. Goes along nicely with the narrative.

reverendkrv1972
07-28-2006, 06:56 PM
wildcats are fun,and they do soak up the damage...nice story and shots blakduk http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

blakduk
07-29-2006, 12:28 AM
Thanks for the feedback guys- i was really surprised by the damage i had suffered. I guess it shows what a bad pilot i am. I cant even tell when my plane is missing large chunks!
The first time i tried to play this track it had a synch problem: the bomb didnt destroy the elevator and my plane just pitched up and stalled.
The mission was from the 'Wings Over Waves' campaign on Wake Island. By the time i had finished with the F4F it really blended in with the bomb damaged infrastructure around it.

I found very quickly that i had to use the F4F as an energy fighter- no point trying to turn with the Japanese planes. I tend to be gentle with the controls and always try to stay higher than the opponents. If i get stuck i scream for help or head for the friendly AAA.

I guess i was very lucky in this mission that no Japanese fighters decided i was a lame duck. If they had latched onto me i wouldn't have lasted long. I suppose that's the advantage of flying against AI- they cant 'see' an obvious weakness and exploit it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Warrington_Wolf
07-29-2006, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by Akronnick:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
Is that the stock USMC campaign?
Ive just started that and really came unglued on the 2nd mission, I had to intercept roughly 15 zeroes with only 3 ******* wingmen. It was usually the case that my wingies would do something moronic and get themselves shot down, then I get beasted by half a dozen zeroes.
Also I cannot seem to do much damage with the guns, I think I need to adjust my convergence because I know that I am hitting them but not doing enough damage. I know the guns are good because I could used to light up the buggers without too much trouble.

P.S. I used to fly the F4F in CFS2, just got to say that I love the this plane to bits. It is tough yet fun and suprisingly maneuverable, Its a real gem http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Those are pretty close to historical odds for Wake Island and/or Midway, but IRL, most Marine Pilots were in Buffalos! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't know that the had Buffalos at Wake island, If I had to fly the Buffalo against that kind of opposition I would have said "sod this I'm off". and tried to make a break for Oahu,Hawaii. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

R_Target
07-30-2006, 08:04 AM
No Brewsters at Wake Island, only at Midway.

GerritJ9
07-30-2006, 08:42 AM
That much-maligned Buffalo might give you a shock- it's every bit as good as the F4F and then some. The only real disadvantage it has vis a vis the F4F is that hideous and almost useless telescopic gunsight. Still, with sufficient practice it is quite posible to shoot down A6M2s and Ki.43s with it, though it does cost more ammunition to achieve hits.