View Full Version : A nice Veltro wallpaper.

02-24-2006, 04:58 AM

I was going to put in a pilot walking away from the plane but it looked so peaceful just the way it was.

Just needed a break from working on the new void layer for this plane.

02-25-2006, 07:16 AM
Thats very very good mate! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Have you got a larger size for it? Would like it for my 1280 monitor http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

02-25-2006, 10:46 AM
awesome - it tells a story just the way it is.

02-25-2006, 01:49 PM
Thanks for the comments! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Here (http://www.scottdavidson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/veltro1280.jpg) is a 1280 size pic.

Glad you liked the picture. I also considered showing the damage that brought the plane down i.e an engine fire but again thought that less was more as it were.


02-25-2006, 08:37 PM
Thanks very much!

But whats that small tube thingy in between the cockpit and the wing - looks like a gun barrel that you accidently put with clone stamp or something. Do you know what it is? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

02-26-2006, 03:02 AM
I had a look through my books and it is clearly visible on old photographs and also in PF. I've no idea what it is for though.

I'll try and blend it in a bit better but the void I used came with the game and is very rough as a lot of it kind of migrated from the 512 sized void. The next skin once I've redone the void file should be much more refined.

I also couldn't resist adding more stuff...


02-26-2006, 03:35 AM
gimme that skin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

very cool!

02-26-2006, 05:04 AM
Very nice indeed
how do u make those??
since nobeody else have asked i guess they already know but since im new in pacific fighter http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-26-2006, 06:15 AM
That's really cool flowbee.

The original was nice, but I wouldn't mind seeing how the damaged more detailed one looks in full.

02-26-2006, 08:52 AM
Here is where I'm at so far. Only thing I can still think of is to add an oil puddle at the front.


Here (http://www.scottdavidson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ANR.zip) is a link to the skin I used. Abraxa did the void and the internals. I'm working on a much improved void at the moment to match the excellent one that Abraxa now has. Doing the void layer isn't much fun though, so it is nice of Oleg to supply voids for all the planes even if they are a bit rough and ready.

02-26-2006, 10:22 AM

Once again, can you post a higher res one? My desktop is 1600x1200 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

02-26-2006, 11:43 AM
Sorry, I stopped working on the large one as I got fed up resizing to 1024 all the time. The original is 2000x1370 but I'll need to bring it up to date first which may not happen as Screenshotart wanted the smaller size only.

02-26-2006, 12:42 PM
Nice job ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Personally, I prefer the original tho (without the damage)

02-27-2006, 07:05 AM
Wow! That is such cool work.. I belive I give it it's correct title when I refere to it as Art!

Just to let you know you can't please every body, I prefer the 1200x1024 size, prefer the final image but with out the rudder damage....

However.. it's awesome no matter which you look at..anymore?

Personally I am useless at this type of stuff, but it's now my Wallpaper and am enjoying staring at it, until the boss arrives of course!

Wow. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

02-27-2006, 09:04 AM
Thanks very much for the nice comments! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Any comments, however, are welcomed as it is very difficult to view one's own work objectively.

It is especially nice though to find that I'm not alone when it comes to appreciating a picture that I genuinely like myself. It's a real reward at the end of the day.


02-27-2006, 09:17 AM
Wow FlowBee, that's awesome. If I had 1/10 the skill and talent you do I could quit my real job and become a starving artist!

Since you said comments are welcome, here's one. As a stickler for the little things, I think that the tree line should be a little farther off, or, the tree line should end near the left edge of the shot. The reason being that there isn't much room for the pilot to have made it over the trees and still put it down as gently as he did. Of course, now that I think about it, meybe a small limb or two on the ground along the trough and a dent in the leading edge of the starboard wing might be even better. Sort of an Easter egg for those that want to pay close attention.


I obviously prefer the damaged one more.

02-27-2006, 09:27 AM
very nice Flowbee!
I like both the original & damaged as much as each other http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

really nice,thanks for sharing you're art with us http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

02-27-2006, 10:24 AM
Hehe.. all this time looking at the picture and not once did I consider the landing from that kind of perspective.

I like the idea of broken branches further back and dents in the port wing. It adds more detail to the picture and gives more story about what happened and kind of hints at the tree line stopping just off picture hence no damage to right wing.

I think losing the rudder damage is a good idea as well, it kind of spoils the fine racing car lines of the Veltro. (Even though the damage kind of reinforces the shark like quality given by the camo and also the shape of the plane.)

And there was me thinking there was nothing else I could do. Nice one! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-27-2006, 10:39 AM
I like the idea of broken branches further back and dents in the port wing. It adds more detail to the picture and gives more story about what happened and kind of hints at the tree line stopping just off picture hence no damage to right wing.

My turn to comment. (I have no talent in this arena, so I'm excellently poised to give you my advice! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif) The track of the plane in the field suggests a landing angle from just off screen, and the tree line does seem to end, or at least dip/break right there, so I wouldn't put any more damage than what you have on the aircraft. The damaged version is superb(!) and is destined for my desktop for sure, if only you could lose the Feisler Storch. It sort of implies that it shot this plane down, but even for those that know it wouldn't/couldn't have, it detracts from the central image. One plane good; two planes bad. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

02-27-2006, 10:41 AM
Oh, and maybe a small part or two farther back along the "trail."

Okay, my expertise is expended, totally.

02-27-2006, 01:31 PM
Here is the final(?) 1600x1200 version (http://www.scottdavidson.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lucky2.jpg).

As was pointed out those trees would have been a hazard so I've added some tree stuff in the distance and a prang mark on the left leading edge. I've improved the light through the trees as that is one of my favourite bits and left out the rudder damage as it kind of spoils the nice (racing car?) lines of the Veltro.

I think it's finally finished.

Just wish I had a printer now so that I could stick it on the wall. But then again it might not print anyway at such a low resolution.

(edit) Ah.. another viewer. Nice one!

I thought about more debris but figured touchdown was gentle at first and then heavier as the weight settled and that's when the bits came off. But I might put more in if I go back to it.

The Storch is meant to be the rescue plane for the Italian pilot as the plane is in ANR markings so at this point in the war it is allied to the Axis forces. I wanted to show the pilot kind of riding off into the sunset after his rescue at the end of what has been a bit of a bad day really. I've called it, "A Lucky Escape". I also think the soft light on the rescue plane (Fieseler Storch) also kind of bridges the gap between the hardlit Veltro in the foreground and the very misty soft background. (My grandfather was actually rescued by one of these at Kiev in '41.)

I really appreciate all the comments because that's how the picture went from the first take to where it is now. Everyone notices different things in different ways.

A friend of mine who is an actual artist, unlike myself, told me to put a picture somewhere and keep looking at it. That way through time all the little flaws and also new ideas emerge. I guess a desktop is the perfect place really. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


02-27-2006, 01:35 PM
The Storch is meant to be the rescue plane for the Italian pilot as the plane is in ANR markings so at this point in the war it is allied to the Axis forces.

Er, uh, ooops.

02-27-2006, 03:11 PM
No worries! You're spot on about that debris.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-27-2006, 03:58 PM

Once again, they are fantastic! I wish I could do stuff like this!

Are there any more you've done?

02-27-2006, 07:13 PM

I really like how it's turned out. It's sitting on one of my desktops http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The only improvement I can suggest for your next picture is to try and make the style of everything in the picture match.

For example, I feel that the plane is kind of a painting. It looks more like a painting. However the grass generally looks very photographic.

I'm not sure if that makes any sense.

Anyway, brilliant work, I hope you make another http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

02-28-2006, 01:28 AM
Thanks again!

You're spot on about the grass. That's the bit I haven't managed to work out yet. How to turn a photographic image into something that looks like art. Time to start reading I guess.

Here's one I did before this one. I wanted to do a plane crash landing on water. I quickly threw some bits together to try out the idea and it ended up turning into a picture. But not the one I wanted to do. Maybe next time it will.


02-28-2006, 01:59 AM
Your work is outstanding, how about a spit or hurricane picture for all the british pilots.
pretty please. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

02-28-2006, 06:26 AM
The sea crash picture is very cool too.

I also would love to see a Spit or a Tempest in your next work http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

02-28-2006, 07:32 AM
I've used your first attempt, plane in field without the German overhead. Feels so serene, or maybe I've been their so many times??Beautiful work, thanks alot.

02-28-2006, 08:31 AM
Damn that's nice. The Zeke pilot almost made the beach.


02-28-2006, 06:26 PM
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