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JU88
07-31-2006, 03:02 AM
Hi guys
progress is being made - though somewhat slowly on my Historical aircraft pack addon for SH3, I been harrasing the subsim boys -Mostly Serg and Anvart- with tons of questions (wonder if they are fed up with me yet) Its quite alot of work and I will be seeking help.

At the moment Im in desperate need of and early version of Pack 3D, as the latest one will on pick up Ship DAT files in the SEA folder but its no good for the aircraft dat files. anyone know whee I can DL it from?

Secondly I might need some help with skins Below I have listed the aircraft I am modeling I would like the Coastal Command livery of these aircraft if possible. If ant one has any scans of these please post them!

Aircraft I am working on are:

Lockheed Hudson
Lockheed ventura
De havilland Mosquito (Mollins version planned)
Bristol Beaufighter
Armstrong Whitworth whitley
Avro Anson
Handley page Halifax
B17 E or F Flying fortress

I also plan to improve the wellington and Junkers 88 model as they are quite poor.

I wanted to do more, but I think eight is already enough work! Here are the planes I decided to leave out and the reason - (I might do them at a later date)

B18 Bolo - Only sunk 2 Uboats reletivly few were used.

B25 Michell - never sunk any Uboats during the war

Bristol Beufort - was used as torpeedo bomber agianst ships, never sunk any Uboats

Marlet/wildcat - never phycially sunk any Uboats, provided aircover for (and shared the credit for) any Uboats sunk by larger Avenger aircraft.

JU88
07-31-2006, 03:02 AM
Hi guys
progress is being made - though somewhat slowly on my Historical aircraft pack addon for SH3, I been harrasing the subsim boys -Mostly Serg and Anvart- with tons of questions (wonder if they are fed up with me yet) Its quite alot of work and I will be seeking help.

At the moment Im in desperate need of and early version of Pack 3D, as the latest one will on pick up Ship DAT files in the SEA folder but its no good for the aircraft dat files. anyone know whee I can DL it from?

Secondly I might need some help with skins Below I have listed the aircraft I am modeling I would like the Coastal Command livery of these aircraft if possible. If ant one has any scans of these please post them!

Aircraft I am working on are:

Lockheed Hudson
Lockheed ventura
De havilland Mosquito (Mollins version planned)
Bristol Beaufighter
Armstrong Whitworth whitley
Avro Anson
Handley page Halifax
B17 E or F Flying fortress

I also plan to improve the wellington and Junkers 88 model as they are quite poor.

I wanted to do more, but I think eight is already enough work! Here are the planes I decided to leave out and the reason - (I might do them at a later date)

B18 Bolo - Only sunk 2 Uboats reletivly few were used.

B25 Michell - never sunk any Uboats during the war

Bristol Beufort - was used as torpeedo bomber agianst ships, never sunk any Uboats

Marlet/wildcat - never phycially sunk any Uboats, provided aircover for (and shared the credit for) any Uboats sunk by larger Avenger aircraft.

tuddley3
07-31-2006, 08:21 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif Pack 3D ? (http://www.cdaccess.com/html/pc/crayola1.htm) . Sorry, I couldn't resist. I went looking for you through Ask.com . Is PACK 3D the actual name of the product? I couldn't find it anywhere. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Iggins01
07-31-2006, 10:27 AM
What is contained int he aircraft dat files. I really want to get into modifying the aircraft AI and other things, so far i have been tweaking the damage zones and other stuff in the cfg files

VikingGrandad
07-31-2006, 12:55 PM
JU88 - I think I found it, on a French website. Here's a link (translated into English http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) :

Pack 3D (http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn?lp=fr_en&doit=done&url=http://helijah.free.fr/Pack_3D/Pack_3D.html)

I hope that's what you were after!

JU88
07-31-2006, 02:53 PM
Tnaks VG but already got pack 3d. thanks anyway!!!

here so you know I havent been slacking...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y254/junkers88/whitley.jpg

The_Silent_O
07-31-2006, 03:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JU88:
Marlet/wildcat - never phycially sunk any Uboats, provided aircover for (and shared the credit for) any Uboats sunk by larger Avenger aircraft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm...check your stats again, the "team" of Wildcat and Avengers sunk quite a few U-boats and assisted in the capture of the U-505.

note the table at the bottom (http://uboat.net/allies/aircraft/wildcat.htm)

...But I would agree that it would be hard to model this type of teamwork with the current AI.

Usually the the Wildcats would straf, keeping the U-boat gunners down AND prevent the boat from diving (Kaleuns would usually not dive if the gunners could not make it to the hatch), then alternatively, the Avenger would come in with shallow set bombs/depth charges.

...But I don't want to sound negative, you're doing great work and I enjoyed the update!

Celeon999
08-01-2006, 02:32 AM
Very cool http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

JU88
08-01-2006, 04:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by The_Silent_O:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JU88:
Marlet/wildcat - never phycially sunk any Uboats, provided aircover for (and shared the credit for) any Uboats sunk by larger Avenger aircraft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm...check your stats again, the "team" of Wildcat and Avengers sunk quite a few U-boats and assisted in the capture of the U-505.

note the table at the bottom (http://uboat.net/allies/aircraft/wildcat.htm)

...But I would agree that it would be hard to model this type of teamwork with the current AI.

Usually the the Wildcats would straf, keeping the U-boat gunners down AND prevent the boat from diving (Kaleuns would usually not dive if the gunners could not make it to the hatch), then alternatively, the Avenger would come in with shallow set bombs/depth charges.

...But I don't want to sound negative, you're doing great work and I enjoyed the update! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Alright Alright!! i do wildcat - since i can probably mold the hurricane in to one with out too much trouble.

by the way you should see the SH3 stock aircraft meshes in 3ds max, they really suck! (messily done and inacurrate in places) im going to fix the Ju88 and Wellington since they are totaly abismal compared to the rest.

VikingGrandad
08-01-2006, 10:08 AM
JU88 - have you figured out how to export a 'plan/pattern' from 3DS Max for skinning purposes?

JU88
08-01-2006, 11:10 AM
VG- I think so, well, Im working on it, - first I have to scale my models down, they are too huge for sh3 at the moment (the hudson is 5 times bigger than the bismark LOL http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, So I,ll let you know tomorrow

Iggins01
08-01-2006, 03:21 PM
i think it would be interesting to have a go at an uberly large plane. as long as it doesn't crash into me, which happens too often as it is with the normal planes

hueywolf123
08-01-2006, 03:42 PM
According to historical records, the Wellington was the first ASW aircraft equipped with Leigh Light. Due to it's slower speed and lack of fire-power they needed to somehow add an element of surprise, but in most cases, the charges had to be primed and ready in an instant as they had only a split second in which to aim & drop. This would be very difficult after long sleepy hours in cold cramped conditions in the middle of the night.
JU88, this really is a fantastic effort on your part, have you tried talking to Carotio about building this as a mod package? IE, ASW mod?

JU88
08-01-2006, 05:24 PM
huey, Its a pleasure to contribute to to sh3 a great game with a great community.

I would be honoured if my mod would be included in the next release of GW and/or IUB, I hope it will - providing i can pull it off ok, modeling isnt a problem, skinning I can figure out, but adding them to game will be the biggest challange.
Not to metion I need to simulate new weapons# I need to create-
20mm cannons for the beaufighter, and a 57mm molins cannon for the mosquito, this can be done by using variouse guns from warships, but ill prolly need to dumb down the damage and up the rate of fire that is going to be the trickiest part for me for sure. I think the leigh light shouldne be a problem, in fact im sure its already been done, still -Wish me luck.