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Enforcer572005
08-24-2007, 11:41 AM
I thought some of you (especially Meteor fans) would love this. It's an RAF vid from 1951 with whole squadrons of Meteors on scramble alert, the first film of RAF B-29s I've seen, nat metal C-47s (Painters will like this), Swift prototypes, Hunters, Canberas, a Shackleton, and many others. Even a York take off. I dnloaded it to. A great reference for early post war jets in RAF service. Even shows an early Valiant.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5442533805579056017

Low_Flyer_MkVb
08-24-2007, 12:02 PM
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Thanks for sharing.

slarsson
08-24-2007, 12:45 PM
On the same site is this video of the wonderful Mars water bombers based at Sproat Lake here on Vancouver Island
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5603615019617157590

blairgowrie
08-24-2007, 01:20 PM
Brings back some great memories for me C. Thanks.

Waldo.Pepper
08-24-2007, 03:30 PM
I also recently posted/uploaded a short (poor quality) flick about USAF evaluation of a Mig-15 and a short clip of postwar Soviet evaluation of the Me-262 (sadly without sound).

We flew the Mig (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6426360879008097407)


Soviet evaluation of Me-262 (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=3932716414548958606)

jolly_magpie
08-24-2007, 03:50 PM
Great clip, thanks!!!!

Enforcer572005
08-24-2007, 07:07 PM
Yeah, I liked the soviet 262. Shows that I'm not too far off in having the VVS using a few Arados in my Redstar/Whitestar 1947 project (and you should see the skin beebop did for me).

The mars vid is great to. Some rare stuff on there.

Enforcer572005
08-24-2007, 07:46 PM
Oh wow, I overlooked the ohter two films, the "wings for defense" about the auxilery AF, with earlier model meteors and vampires. Don't miss this royal coronation review either, it's got Sabres as well, and the above planes in huge numbers on the ground and air. Some amazing footage.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4032767438593141542

I loved the Mig test video. I read Yeager's account of testing it, and it was great seeing him and Gen. Boyd. Thanks for posting that. The machine is in the USAF museum in Dayton now.

Enforcer572005
08-24-2007, 10:13 PM
And don't overlook the Berlin airlift and fighter tactics v B29 vids. The RAF role in Berlin has priceless shots like sunderlands landing in a Lake in Berlin. The B-29 does an obvious standin for the TU-4, after 10 min of class instruction that may be useful in the sim. Some amazing stuff. Film Ive not seen before.

These things make me hope that Luthier's Korea sim will be expanded later to include some other planes from the 50s that came a bit later.

Woof603
08-25-2007, 02:39 PM
Thanks for posting, Enforcer. Brought back wonderful memories of flying in England in the fifties. And the B36...well, even after all these years I'll never forget making a head on attack on one of those beasts. My eyeballs are still jammed in the wide-open mode. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

woofiedog
08-25-2007, 09:50 PM
Excellent video clip... those Spit's early in the clip are from Hong Kong I believe. Some of the last of the Spit Squadron's.
And the shots of the British version of the B-29 Washington Mk1 and the B-36 with the crew memeber walking along the wing are Mint.


On 5 February 1952, a Spitfire Mk 19 of No. 81 Squadron RAF based in Hong Kong achieved probably the highest altitude ever achieved by a Spitfire. The pilot, Flight Lieutenant Ted Powles, was on a routine flight to survey outside air temperature and report on other meteorological conditions at various altitudes in preparation for a proposed new air service through the area. He climbed to 50,000 feet (15 240 m) indicated altitude, with a true altitude of 51,550 feet (15 712 m), which was the highest height ever recorded for a Spitfire. The cabin pressure fell below a safe level, and in trying to reduce altitude, he entered an uncontrollable dive which shook the aircraft violently. He eventually regained control somewhere below 3,000 feet (900 m). He landed safely with no discernible damage to his aircraft. Evaluation of the recorded flight data suggested that, in the dive, he achieved a speed of 690 mph (1110 km/h) or Mach 0.94, which would have been the highest speed ever reached by a propeller-driven aircraft. Today, it is generally believed that this speed figure is the result of inherent instrument errors and has to be considered unrealistic.

Enforcer572005
08-26-2007, 01:13 AM
Did anyone notice in the Berlin airlift film the Halifaxes that had been modded for Transports? And how bout those Yorks, Lincolns, and all the commercial transports the Brits were using. Sunderlands are present in films made in 1940 to 1952. Cool.

Woof, I can only imagine what taking on a B-36 head on in an F-86 would be like. That thing had 20mm turrets all over it that recessed into the fuselage. I have a manual for it somewhere that My dad got when he worked at Spence AFB in the late 50s.

woofiedog
08-26-2007, 04:00 AM
Yes doing a Head-On attack againest the 20mm's would be a lot more different than the 50 cal's on the B-29 and older US bombers. Although Heavy Cannon's were replacing the machinegun armament of most fighters at the time.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD6scfVV5x0&mode=related&search=

BillyTheKid_22
08-26-2007, 08:58 AM
Wow!! Great Video!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

ploughman
08-26-2007, 09:18 AM
Great vid, chipper soundtrack too, can't quite place the recurrent theme though? Anyone remember which film it was use in?

Those black bellied Canberra's looked great. They must've seemed like something out of a Dan Dare comic to folk who were used to piston engined heavies before then.

Thanks for posting.

Woof603
08-26-2007, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Enforcer572005:

Woof, I can only imagine what taking on a B-36 head on in an F-86 would be like.

As I was young and immortal at the time, and had just checked out on the 86, it seemed like great fun. Looking back on it now, I'm not so sure.

woofiedog
08-26-2007, 11:00 AM
Woof603... they had a F-86 up at the Pease Air Show last weekend. It did a Great single and flying along side with the F-16 air performance.

Beauty of a War Bird.

Sorry about the photo's below though... but they had it parked away from the show area and I was using a Zoom Lens for these shot at max setting for my camera.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/PICT0070.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/PICT0073.jpg

Woof603
08-26-2007, 11:12 AM
Thanks for posting, Woofiedog. To my mind the F-86 is one of the prettiest airplanes ever built. (I may be prejudiced.) I know how lucky I am to have been able fly it. And I literally dream about it frequently. Hard to believe after all these years.

Enforcer572005
08-26-2007, 11:48 AM
Woofiedog, those are still good shots, especially the head on.

And Woof (the other one), There isn't much info on RAF use of the Sabre, which was very short until the Hunter came along (like you needed to be told this), and I've always been interested in its service there. I saw both nat metal and twotone camo versions in the video. I only read one article by an RAF pilot ( 30 old issue of Air Enthusiast I think) and one fella told of forgetting to duck when he opened the canopy on rollout, and the thing grabbed his helmet and pulled him back with it...makes for a bit of bad form on a landing.

Do you happen to have old photos laying around that could (with great effort I realize) be scanned and accidentally posted? I'd love to see such. I always hassle guys like you when I encounter them that way....I've seen some AMAZING photos that way. The post war RAF fascinates me for some reason...I guess it's just the pretty planes they flew and the variety.

Woof603
08-26-2007, 01:16 PM
I was in the RCAF, Enforcer, not the RAF, but was based at RAF North Luffenham, Rutland County in 53/54. I have some old photos packed away and as soon as I can get to them I'll post a few. In the meantime, here's my desktop...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/woof603/F86E.png

and a snap of one I flew at North Luffenham (and later cracked up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif)...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/woof603/f862.jpg

MB_Avro_UK
08-26-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Woof603:
I was in the RCAF, Enforcer, not the RAF, but was based at RAF North Luffenham, Rutland County in 53/54. I have some old photos packed away and as soon as I can get to them I'll post a few. In the meantime, here's my desktop...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/woof603/F86E.png

and a snap of one I flew at North Luffenham (and later cracked up http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif)...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v30/woof603/f862.jpg

Hey Woof603,

Please check your PMs.

I sent this link to my father who was a Meteor pilot during this period and he rang me today to say how much he enjoyed it. Thanks for the link Enforcer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

leitmotiv
08-26-2007, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Great vid, chipper soundtrack too, can't quite place the recurrent theme though? Anyone remember which film it was use in?



It's Elgar, ain't it?


Remarkable film, Enforcer.

ploughman
08-27-2007, 04:45 AM
After a root around; it's an energetic version of "The RAF March" by Sir Henry Walford Davies, 1918.

Dapper.