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superkootje
11-23-2011, 07:28 AM
Well,

I've Watched Assassin's Creed: Embers and got this question about the ending.

Since some people are stupid enough not to realise That it said Major Spoiler in the title I'm going to type it in white.

<span class="ev_code_WHITE">When Ezio died at the end, A man was sitting next to him, he had a scar in his face. He said some yibberish about hating Firenze and that rome was way better, Ezio said that Firenze was not his problem. And then he put his hand on ezio's hand and said he neede to rest. And when the man goes away Ezio dies. I wonder if that man has anything to do with ezio's dead or is it just a coinsedence?</span>

Thanks in acvance http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SupremeCaptain
11-23-2011, 07:30 AM
Gabe apparently said that the man was simply no one.

But this was the same Gabe who said armour removal would mess up the story so I dunno LOL

RzaRecta357
11-23-2011, 07:37 AM
Yeah, I don't think it was anything. Just Ezio seeing a young brash man.

LightRey
11-23-2011, 07:38 AM
There are already several threads about this. The Encyclopedia made no mention of the guy and as said above Gabe said the man was nobody important.
The guy is of no importance. Ezio died of natural causes.

JJTHoukes
11-23-2011, 08:49 AM
The credits list him as: Young Man.

Many people before me have suggested that the man is a reflection of a young Ezio.
At first, I did not wish to believe this. It seemed too out of place.

After pondering for a while, I realize that they're right.
Just after Ezio passes away, the letter is read aloud:

"When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it. And I had love, but I did not feel it."

That's the scarred 'young man' right there.
Ezio, however, tells him that Firenze might not be his problem, but the young man himself is his own problem:

"Many decades would pass before I understood the meaning of all three. And now, the twilight of my life, misunderstanding has passed into contentment.
Love, liberty, and time: once was so disposable, are the fuels that drive me forward. And love, most especially."

LightRey
11-23-2011, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by ThyMolizzo:
The credits list him as: Young Man.

Many people before me have suggested that the man is a reflection of a young Ezio.
At first, I did not wish to believe this. It seemed too out of place.

After pondering for a while, I realize that they're right.
Just after Ezio passes away, the letter is read aloud:

"When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it. And I had love, but I did not feel it."

That's the scarred 'young man' right there.
Ezio, however, tells him that Firenze might not be his problem, but the young man himself is his own problem:

"Many decades would pass before I understood the meaning of all three. And now, the twilight of my life, misunderstanding has passed into contentment.
Love, liberty, and time: once was so disposable, are the fuels that drive me forward. And love, most especially."
Precisely. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

E-Zekiel
11-23-2011, 01:09 PM
When Ezio died at the end, A man was sitting next to him, he had a scar in his face. He said some yibberish about hating Firenze and that rome was way better, Ezio said that Firenze was not his problem. And then he put his hand on ezio's hand and said he neede to rest. And when the man goes away Ezio dies. I wonder if that man has anything to do with ezio's dead or is it just a coinsedence?

I figure he is just a nobody who may have been looking for advice. Or just words.

That is, if we rule out the possibility that the man was a hallucination, which is what I think. A manifestation of a line of thoughts he had really grown and wizened against. Sort of a "final test", maybe.

orionsrise
11-23-2011, 03:48 PM
Just a thought but the guy reminds me of the Borgia kid in project legacy and even has a scar across his mouth presumably from when he tried to kill Cesere his step dad. could be wrong tho usually am XD

Ayush_S92
11-23-2011, 04:13 PM
I still won't be so quick to come to a conclusion.

If you watch the movie closely, when the guy holds Ezio's hand before standing up he definitely has something shiny below his hand, much like a hidden blade.

I am sure of this because I spent a fair few minutes observing those few frames and it actually reflects like a mirror..or a metal blade. So, definitely something is there.

LightRey
11-23-2011, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by orionsrise:
Just a thought but the guy reminds me of the Borgia kid in project legacy and even has a scar across his mouth presumably from when he tried to kill Cesere his step dad. could be wrong tho usually am XD
I sincerely doubt it's Giovanni Borgia. He didn't live in Florence and he certainly didn't look like that guy.


Originally posted by Ayush_S92:
I still won't be so quick to come to a conclusion.

If you watch the movie closely, when the guy holds Ezio's hand before standing up he definitely has something shiny below his hand, much like a hidden blade.

I am sure of this because I spent a fair few minutes observing those few frames and it actually reflects like a mirror..or a metal blade. So, definitely something is there.
Eh no, there's nothing there. You're imagining things.

This thread is turning into a red trail discussion. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Ayush_S92
11-23-2011, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by LightRey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by orionsrise:
Just a thought but the guy reminds me of the Borgia kid in project legacy and even has a scar across his mouth presumably from when he tried to kill Cesere his step dad. could be wrong tho usually am XD
I sincerely doubt it's Giovanni Borgia. He didn't live in Florence and he certainly didn't look like that guy.


Originally posted by Ayush_S92:
I still won't be so quick to come to a conclusion.

If you watch the movie closely, when the guy holds Ezio's hand before standing up he definitely has something shiny below his hand, much like a hidden blade.

I am sure of this because I spent a fair few minutes observing those few frames and it actually reflects like a mirror..or a metal blade. So, definitely something is there.
Eh no, there's nothing there. You're imagining things.

This thread is turning into a red trail discussion. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Still don't think so.

http://img714.imageshack.us/im...hot20111124at459.png (http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3605/screenshot20111124at459.png)

http://img577.imageshack.us/im...hot20111124at458.png (http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1457/screenshot20111124at458.png)

As you can see the blade like thing is reflecting differently in both the pics.

LightRey
11-23-2011, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Ayush_S92:
Still don't think so.

http://img714.imageshack.us/im...hot20111124at459.png (http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3605/screenshot20111124at459.png)

http://img577.imageshack.us/im...hot20111124at458.png (http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/1457/screenshot20111124at458.png)

As you can see the blade like thing is reflecting differently in both the pics.
That's just his wrist in the shadow, mai freind. The animation technique uses that "shine", if you will, to create depth perception in shadow.

Ayush_S92
11-23-2011, 04:47 PM
It might be, but I am still not sure.

Because even when the guy walks towards Ezio, he has a forearm cover like thing(whatever you call it - the thing in which hidden blade is there). Now of course this also can be explained easily if need be. But I won't be surprised if the story has something more than meets the eye.

LightRey
11-23-2011, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by Ayush_S92:
It might be, but I am still not sure.

Because even when the guy walks towards Ezio, he has a forearm cover like thing(whatever you call it - the thing in which hidden blade is there). Now of course this also can be explained easily if need be. But I won't be surprised if the story has something more than meets the eye.
If you look at 18:11, You'll see that there's no hidden blade under it. It's just a leather wristguard-like thing, which probably wasn't that uncommon for those times.

But this is a pointless discussion. The guy isn't even mentioned in the encyclopedia and UbiGabe said himself the guy was nobody important.

Radman500
11-23-2011, 04:54 PM
does anyone think Shao Jun could beat Ezio in a 1 on 1 sword fight

LightRey
11-23-2011, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Radman500:
does anyone think Shao Jun could beat Ezio in a 1 on 1 sword fight
No. Now stop posting the same thing in different threads.

jmk1999
11-24-2011, 03:05 AM
moved to hints & tips for spoilers.

Madman6884
11-24-2011, 04:20 AM
Yeah, when I first watched it my mind jumped to him being a hitman for the Templars, but that was just a brash assumption. The more I thought about it, the more his presence seemed to be symbolic in a way.

Ezio is sitting there, and up comes this brash talking young man with a scar on his face...where else have we seen this? To me at least, the scene is kind of symbolic to Ezio. He sees himself in the young man, and when the boy reassuringly puts his hand on Ezio's and tells him to get some rest, it's seen as a more figurative "it's okay for you to truly rest now, you've fought long enough". Hence why he passes on with that contented look on his face.

That's how I saw it anyway, take it as you will.

Gil_217
11-24-2011, 06:03 AM
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2097/92977660.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/2hhoh36.jpg

kudos17
11-26-2011, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by ThyMolizzo:
The credits list him as: Young Man.

Many people before me have suggested that the man is a reflection of a young Ezio.
At first, I did not wish to believe this. It seemed too out of place.

After pondering for a while, I realize that they're right.
Just after Ezio passes away, the letter is read aloud:

"When I was a young man, I had liberty, but I did not see it. I had time, but I did not know it. And I had love, but I did not feel it."

That's the scarred 'young man' right there.
Ezio, however, tells him that Firenze might not be his problem, but the young man himself is his own problem:

"Many decades would pass before I understood the meaning of all three. And now, the twilight of my life, misunderstanding has passed into contentment.
Love, liberty, and time: once was so disposable, are the fuels that drive me forward. And love, most especially."

Couldn't have put it better myself! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

playassassins1
11-27-2011, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Ayush_S92:
It might be, but I am still not sure.

Because even when the guy walks towards Ezio, he has a forearm cover like thing(whatever you call it - the thing in which hidden blade is there). Now of course this also can be explained easily if need be. But I won't be surprised if the story has something more than meets the eye.

If you think very hard it would be very pointless to kill Ezio. If the guy is an assassin. Why would an assassin kill another assassin.