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03-27-2006, 04:40 PM
Any corkers that you're reading at the mo that have nothing to do with anything to do with here????

03-27-2006, 04:51 PM

Enders Game by Orson Scott Card.
I swear, you will not put it down. Get a copy. Trust me, you will love it.
Thats all I'm saying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

03-27-2006, 05:05 PM
Agreed. Read that, it's a good un'

03-27-2006, 05:09 PM
I'm reading the bible but jesus said it may not be for you.

03-27-2006, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:

Enders Game by Orson Scott Card.
I swear, you will not put it down. Get a copy. Trust me, you will love it.
Thats all I'm saying http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Holy cow, I was just about to post that!

Best book I've ever read

03-27-2006, 05:12 PM
Whoa, tried that...It had a theme, but ultimately no middle. (beginning and end - yes)

03-27-2006, 05:15 PM
loads of books, i read a lot. But as we seem to be in Sci fi... give Stephen Donaldson's Gap series a chance.. definately the best sci fi (books even ) I have read.... warning... it's very dark.... not for children...


http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0553295098/ref=sib_dp_p...-2649765#reader-page (http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0553295098/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-2815123-2649765#reader-page)

03-27-2006, 05:16 PM
Some of my favourites:

1. "The last temptation" by Nikos Kazantzakis

2. "1984" By George Orwell

3. "Solaris" by Stanislaw Lem

4. "State and Revolution" by V. I. Lenin

And a couple more Greek books you probably don't know about... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

03-27-2006, 05:18 PM
I nominate Quicksilver by Neal Stephenson as one of the best I've read for ages......

03-27-2006, 05:20 PM
Solaris is good. Very good. Lem I like

03-27-2006, 05:27 PM
For alternate history buffs, Harry Turtledove is a must read. Ruled Britannia was fabulous.

For scifi military reads, Steven Weber's Honor Harrington novels are terrific. They are a conscious imitation of the Horatio Hornblower books by C.S. Forester, and they just work.



03-27-2006, 05:31 PM
Steven Weber. Must admit, never heard of him. But I will check him out..........
Tentative cheers in advance on that one!

03-27-2006, 05:32 PM
History? anuthing bu Barbara Tuchman... guns of august is excellent

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/034538623X/sr=8-2/qid=...765?%5Fencoding=UTF8 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/034538623X/sr=8-2/qid=1143505898/ref=pd_bbs_2/102-2815123-2649765?%5Fencoding=UTF8)

03-27-2006, 05:42 PM
Spooky. Just found out that Lem has passed away... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

03-27-2006, 06:10 PM
i highly recommend the harry potter books. much better than the lame movies

03-27-2006, 07:55 PM
Crime and Punishment has always been a favorite of mine.

03-27-2006, 08:32 PM
I agree with fordfan25, the Harry Potter books are good. Unlike him, I thought the movies were good too, but the books provide much more detail.

03-27-2006, 08:47 PM
Harry Potter is good fun, of course, but if you really want to delve pick up a book by Stephen Ambrose, Joe Foss, or an autobiography that I'd recommend, Another Bowl of Kapusta.

03-27-2006, 09:53 PM
Catch 22 by Joseph Heller

03-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Just finished Swarm War, the third book of the Dark Nest Star Wars trilogy by Troy Denning. Now waiting for Timothy Zahn's Outbound Flight to hit paperback.....

03-27-2006, 10:40 PM
im kinda young ( 14 and 4/5)
but like the matthew reilly novels http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif( scarecrow, area7, ice station, temple, hover car racer, 7 ancient wonders)
great action read(s) !

03-28-2006, 02:04 AM
Lord Of The Rings

And for starters:

The Hobbit

The no doubt good movies will look a bit less shiny after you read the books, but the story is just great.

Besides that:

Chronicles of Narnia

The difference between movie and book(s) is even bigger here.

03-28-2006, 02:06 AM
At the moment I'm reading

Hilters U-Boat War: The hunted 1942-1945 - Clay Blair.

These are a few titles on my bookshelf waiting to be read.

Black Cross Red Star (vol 2) - Bergstrom & Mikhailov

Hitlers Generals - Correlli Barnett

The Mighty Eighth - Roger A Freeman

Bombers & Mash - Raynes Minns

Bomber Command 1939-1945 - Richard Overy

a couple of Terry Prachett's & a few Dad's Army Biographies.

for anyone in the west country I can also recommend Bristol At War - John Penny
I didn't realise how many raids Bristol & surrounding area's endured. I now understand why my Dad spent so much time under the stairs in his early childhood.

03-28-2006, 02:54 AM
Turtledove is great, but I also read a lot of non-fiction. My recommendation would be Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond. It's a book setting out to explain the broad patterns of human civilization on Earth, and it is a real eye-opener. It's recommended for anyone interested in history.

03-28-2006, 04:11 AM
Night watch
Day watch
and Twilight watch
by Sergey Lukyanienko

03-28-2006, 04:19 AM
Most here have probably already read it, but 'Shadow Divers' is a good read. U-boat stuff.

couldn't put it down.


03-28-2006, 05:59 AM
Asorted favorites in almost random order:

Sidhartha by Hermann Hesse
The castle by Franz Kafka
The heart of the matter by Graham Greene
The magic mountain by Thomas Mann
Master and Margaret by Michail Bulgakov
Gulliver Travels by Jonathan Swift
Some extraordinary war short stories by Heinrich Boell like "Pilgrim if you arrive at Spa...", "The general was standing on a hill", etc (free translation of the titles)
The game with pearl beads by Hermann Hesse
The red badge of courage by Stephen Crane
The scarlet letter by Hawthorne
Stalker by Strugatsky brothers
The desert of the tartars by Dino Buzzati
Night Flight by Saint-Exupery
Don Quixote by Cervantes

03-28-2006, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by CapBackassward:
Most here have probably already read it, but 'Shadow Divers' is a good read. U-boat stuff.

couldn't put it down.


myself, my brother-in-law, and my father all enjoyed this book.

03-28-2006, 06:44 AM
The Malazan Book of the Fallen series by Steven Erikson. 5 so far and still going strong. Semi-linked, but easily read standalone.

Definitely the best fantasy I've come across. Believable characters, believable motivations, incredibly dense storyline.

Best bit is that NOTHING is explained - none of the usual exposition about how the magic system works, the history ( spanning several thousand years btw ) etc. You pick it up by osmosis as you read. By about the third book you have a fairly good "unconscious" understanding of how it all works and it also rewards a re-reading.

Try the first "The Gardens of the Moon" - I guarantee you'll be hooked. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

03-28-2006, 06:46 AM
Excession by Iain M. Banks = Sci-Fi heaven. It took me a couple of years to discover the final page of the book, which is located a couple of blank pages after the page you initially think is the final page of the book; but this only enhanced my enjoyment of this brilliant and baffling tome.

The Aubrey-Maturin naval series set during the Napleonic period, by Patrick O'Brian is some of the best fiction written.

The Flashman series are a great romp through the under-belly of the 19th Century and are very well written, takes a while to come to terms with what a craven scoundrel Flashman is though, but a couple of books in you begin to like the guy.

03-28-2006, 07:09 AM
'The German Generals Talk' by Basil H. Hart
'Mengele: The Complete Story' by Gerald Posner
'Das Boot' by Lothar Gunther Buchheim
'Portrait of The Artist as a Young Man' by James Joyce
'The Sound and the Fury' by William Faulkner
'Flags in the Dust' by Faulkner
'Winesburg, Ohio' by Sherwood Anderson

...and the list could go on and on and on and on....

03-28-2006, 07:17 AM
The Emperor -series by Conn Iggulden. Tells about Julius Caesar starting from his childhood. Definitely among the best books I've ever read. Just finished second book and now waiting the last two (to be published in Finnish)...

03-28-2006, 07:26 AM
I´m surprised no one here mentioned Dune yet.

The best sci-fi series IMHO, the "Dune Chronicles" by Frank Herbert, at least the first 3 books:

- Dune
- Dune Messiah
- Children of Dune.

There was a movie made in the late 80s that sucked big time, and then a miniseries based on the first 3 books above mentioned, that sucked as well.

There´s so much deph and info in these books that I don´t think there will ever be a decent screen adaptation.

The Lord of the Rings is almost as good too. Check them out.

And to finish, almost anything written by Hemingway.

03-28-2006, 08:01 AM
Books that have changed the way I view the world or otherwise left a lasting impression:

"The Caine Mutiny" by Herman Wouk (leadership, loyalty, peer pressure)

"The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins (fascinating take on natural selection)

"The Divine Right of Capital" by Marjorie Kelly (is our current system of "corporatism" outdated?)

"Valuing the Earth" by Herman Daly (thermodynamic laws, economic falicies related to growth, and sustainability)

03-28-2006, 08:20 AM
The Discworld series by Terry Pratchet.


03-28-2006, 03:10 PM
My favorite military sci-fi stories are David Drake's Hammers Slammers series. There is something about the idea of 180 ton hover tanks with 200 mm power guns, and Drake writes such gritty stuff.

03-28-2006, 03:15 PM
Roll Me Over: an Infantryman in WWII
Panzer Aces volumes 1 and 2
Redstorm Rising

03-28-2006, 03:37 PM
Two Years Before the Mast by Richard Henry Dana
The Hobbit by J.R.R.Tolkein
The Recluse series by L.E. Modesitt
The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle
A Genius for War (George S. Patton) by Carlo D'Este (or any of his WWII books)
A Time for Trumpets by Charles McDonald (Definitive book on the Battle of the Bulge)
There are just so many good books out there.

03-28-2006, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the replies. I'll have to investigate some of those books further...
(um, apart from Harry Potter. I'm in the minority, I know, but just don't like him...)

Anyway, here's my nomination for the best book ever - The Sea of Fertility by Mishima

It's four books long, and has the best ending ever in my opinion. The very last sentance just sends shivers up my spine.

An outstanding piece of work.

But that's enough of my book review http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

(I better put the book down now and sneak back into that upper mid turret!)


03-28-2006, 05:38 PM
Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand

Dune / Dune Messiah / Children of Dune / The God-Emperor of Dune - Frank Herbert

Anything Tolkien wrote.

The Xanth series and Macroscope - Piers Anthony (Met him, went to his house back in '86 and I am mentioned by name in the Author's Notes in Crewel Lye)

A Diary of Adam and Eve - Sam Clemens (Mark Twain. Funniest thing you'll ever read)

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series - Douglas Adams (The second funniest thing you'll ever read)

The Constitutional Convention Debates

The Federalist Papers

The Antifederalist Papers

The writings of MARCVS TVLLIVS CICERO, On Duties in particular.

The Library of America edition of the Writings of Thomas Jefferson (Steel yourself, Jefferson wrote a lot; 1,517 pages worth, to be exact) and Abraham Lincoln.

I could go on ...... and might ... later. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

03-28-2006, 06:56 PM
As some of you may have guessed by my avatar I'm a big Rik Mayall fan. I have just finished reading his "biography" called "Bigger than Hitler,better than Christ!" Its written as if his characters "Rik" (from the "Young Ones") and "Richie" (from "Bottom") are talking. It makes for a disjointed read in places but still very funny. The part where he tries to eat food off his girlfriend, "Nine and a half Weeks" style, had me crying with laughing, but I could never eat a wedge of Pork pie again! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

03-29-2006, 12:34 AM
I enjoy well written sci-fi and fantasy. Here are some of my favorites:

Ringworld or almost anything else by Larry Niven, especially his collaborations with Jerry Pournelle. The Kzin are one of the greatest creations of modern sci fi. Footfall is absolutely the best alien invasion yarn ever, although with the collapse of the USSR, some of the assumptions have lost a little steam. Lucifer's Hammer is a great end of the world yarn as well.

The Worldwar/Colonization stories by Harry Turtledove come in second for the alien invasion sweepstakes.

Glory Season by David Brin (I literally stayed up a whole weekend to finish this book). Startide Rising and The Uplift War were also excellent reads. The Postman was a much better novel than the movie as well.

Nine Princes in Amber, in fact the whole Amber series, by Roger Zelazney. A lot of his stuff is brilliant, but sometimes he took a book off, if you know what I mean. The original Amber books are rock solid, though.

The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. But you knew that...

The Travis McGee novels by John D. McDonald. (Okay, not sci fi. But you recognize the style of a lot of the good writers of today, stripped down to less than 200 pages, and just fifities-early sixties cool.)

The Destroyer series, at least the first 30 or so volumes written by Sapir and Murphy. Excellent social and political satire. Funny as hell, if you were aware of current events in the seventies. Get a fistfull of them at your used book exchange-you won't be sorry.

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe, by Douglas Addams. Bloody brilliant. When I read it, I imagined John Cleese doing the narration.

Glory Road and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, by Robert A. Heinlein. Heinlein could write any style of story, and make it fascinating and funny when he was at the top of his game.

The Forever War by Joe Haldeman. His short stories and novellas are also terrific, but some of them can really haunt you...

Island in the Sea of Time trilogy by S.M. Stirling. Peshawar Lancers is also a rollicking good read.

The Paladin, by C.J.Cherryh is a favorite; some of her stuff is very good, although she leans to the strong (alien) woman, bewildered (human) man theme a bit too often.

Gateway and the other Heechee novels by Frederik Pohl are pretty good.

Shadow of the Torturer, Soldier of the Mist and Soldier of Arete by Gene Wolf really held my attention (Wolf's stuff is kind of dark and murky, sometimes, though. He expects his readers to do some thinking, but they always stand up to re-reading).

I've been reading the Song of Ice and Fire series (just finsihed A Feast For Crows) by George R.R. Martin of late. He has a distressing habit of killing off characters that I've come to like, though.

Tolkien and most of the others you know about.

Anything by C.S. Lewis is good, although I strongly recommend The Screwtape Letters.

These should get you through Spring Break. Take some time off for drinking, carousing and sex (preferably with a partner) if your eyes get tired.



03-29-2006, 03:34 AM
My God, how could I forget...

Musashi by Eiji Yoshikawa.

Epic in every way http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif.


03-29-2006, 04:18 AM
From the OSS.
Analysis of the Personality of Adolph Hitler
by: Dr. Henry A. Murray
With Predictions of His Future Behavior.

04-02-2006, 07:59 AM
For something different, The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien (a mate of James Joyce). Good for secret societies of one-legged men and bicycles painted hitherto undiscovered colours.

04-02-2006, 05:03 PM
Just bought Musashi.
Thanks for the tip!

04-02-2006, 08:14 PM
The 48 Laws Of Power

Robert Greene

read this book...it will improve your life

04-02-2006, 10:58 PM
All Quiet on the Western Front

A true masterpiece.

04-03-2006, 03:23 AM
I can't believe so many people suggested Ender's Game.

Read all 8 books, they're really THAT good.

Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Chidren of the Mind
Ender's Shadow (ender's game from Bean's POV)
Shadow of the Hegemon
Shadow Puppets
Shadow of the Giant (latest and last)

04-03-2006, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by boxduty:
Just bought Musashi.
Thanks for the tip!

Its always such a nice thing to pass a book onto someone else.

Hashmark13, I didn't know of the last three books in the Ender/Speaker series. Thanks!
(grabs coat and heads for the nearest bookstore).

04-03-2006, 04:11 AM

Can you you tell me the name of this book, because I want to read it again.

German paratrooper captured by the Russsians towards the end of the war. Sent to a mine in Siberia. He escaped and made his way all the way down to freedom in, I think, Turkey.
It's one of the best escape stories I've ever read, but I can't remember the name !!

OK, should have tried Google BEFORE writing this post ! The book is called 'As Far As My Feet Will Carry Me' by Josef Martin Bauer. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

04-03-2006, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by CUJO_1970:
All Quiet on the Western Front

A true masterpiece.

Yes, it's one of the few books I read again and again...

04-03-2006, 05:59 AM
Originally posted by 3.JG51_BigBear:
Crime and Punishment has always been a favorite of mine. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif "The Brothers Karamazov" is also very good.

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04-03-2006, 08:05 AM
Archangel and Fatherland are both great thrillers by Robert Harris. Archangel is about Stalins undiscovered son, and in Fatherland Hitler won the war. Great scenarios.

04-03-2006, 10:34 AM
Orson Scott Card, Iain M Banks and Stanislaw Lem have been mentioned. I'd add Greg Bear - Eon is amazing, sci-fi so hard you can count the rivets. Paul F Hamilton - Reality Dysfunction is prime space opera entertainment.

Add in any of William Gibson, Kadry, Shirley....


04-03-2006, 12:32 PM

i didnt read all the replies,but have anybody here mentioned any of dan brown's book? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

at least "the da vinci code" and "angels and demons" are the best for me,up to this stage of my life http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


04-03-2006, 12:58 PM
wwIIwise "A bridge too far" by Cornelius Ryan is a nice clasic one.