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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 09:05 AM
Hi all,

As requested I have produced a pack of weathered hakencrosses TGA files and the MAT files to download them.

I have stayed clear of producing them in the past as it is never my intent to cause offense to anyone, however several guys have requested them and therefore I have produced them. I personally like historical accuracy but as I say it isn't my intent to offend on what for some is still a justifyably sensative subject, you now have the choice.

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hakencrosses_small.jpg


Download link:

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weathered_hakencrosses.zip

Regards

Aces

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IL2-MAT and Artwork Downloads
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XyZspineZyX
06-26-2003, 09:05 AM
Hi all,

As requested I have produced a pack of weathered hakencrosses TGA files and the MAT files to download them.

I have stayed clear of producing them in the past as it is never my intent to cause offense to anyone, however several guys have requested them and therefore I have produced them. I personally like historical accuracy but as I say it isn't my intent to offend on what for some is still a justifyably sensative subject, you now have the choice.

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hakencrosses_small.jpg


Download link:

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weathered_hakencrosses.zip

Regards

Aces

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Aces High JG123 (123_Aces_JG123 on Hyperlobby)
IL2-MAT and Artwork Downloads
E-mail aces@acesartwork.co.uk
http://www.acesartwork.co.uk
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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 07:36 PM
bump

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:06 AM
Nice, thnx.
What's all that about offending anyone? How can you offend someone by respecting history?
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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:30 AM
Nice work Aces_High. Thanks.


Von_Zero;

Obviously you don't understand that for many, many people the swastika represents humanity at it's worst. Many Germans are embarassed and apalled by this ugly scar on their history. This is why there are no swasitkas by default in the game.

Sure, the German planes look historically accurate with swastikas, but accuracy and compassion are two different things.

Although not Jewish, (or any other opressed ethnic/racial group), I can only imagine what fear/terror/hate these people must feel when seeing this symbol.

I personnaly am not offended by the swastika and in fact use them because I want my planes to look 'correct' in MY game. However, I respect the feelings of others and if they don't want to see this symbol they shouldn't have to.

I'm sure many a VVS and Axis pilot flew over concentration camps. I would hope you would agree that it would be pointless to model them in IL-2/FB just for the sake of "respecting history".



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Message Edited on 07/01/03 06:35PM by rexcarrs

Message Edited on 07/01/0306:37PM by rexcarrs

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:34 AM
Ah cultures and symbols....what a mess. Great work aces!

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:41 AM
You're right , but what happened, happened, and that's all.
In my personal opinion, the past is gone, so it cannot harm anyone.
Anyway you're right, it would be useles to enable them in the default game, but I was refering to offending someone by posting them here, while there are many sites that give those programs that enables the.
Best regads,

"The show must go on..."

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:47 AM
Fair enough Von_Zero in regards to posting "hackencross" files.

But...'the past is gone, so it cannot harm anyone." Hmmm. It weems that one thing is certain, history repeats itself. Even though the Nazis are gone, their kind of hatred remains. They are still the models for some current 'hate' groups.

I respect your opinion, but I disagree that the past cannot harm anyone.

Regards.



*****Only left handed people are in their right minds.*****

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:52 AM
Belivfe me or not, I'm right.
The past cannot make any harm.
The continuation of the past is the one that harms.

"The show must go on..."

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 03:08 AM
its not historical accurate with out,bump

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 04:36 AM
how to instill?

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 04:56 AM
rex wrote "(to) many people the swastika represents humanity at it's worst. Many Germans are embarassed and apalled by this ugly scar on their history."

yeah, I guess that's why I don't put a pic of Pres. Bush on my a/c ... tooooo embarassed!

...and Zero ... you're young ... some day you'll understand, trust me.


hawk

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 08:58 AM
Nice addonns thank you. Btw is there a way to take the star symbols of of il-2/FB? For many, many people the star represents humanity at it's worst...

julle

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:12 AM
Give the guy a break, he's put time and effort into producing them, it wasn't his intention to start an argument. I'm sure he is well aware of the feelings people have about it. Nice work dude.

Matt.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:57 AM
Thanks Matt,

Your comments sum up my feelings on the matter exactly.

It is always going to be a very sensative subject and I'm of a generation which still remembers the events surrounding this era being taught, in detail, in school. As I mentioned in my post I was reluctant to produce them as I don't want to offend anyone and for some, these symbols still have very bad memories attached to them.

Anyway, it's healthy that people are aware of these issues but it remains a game (simulation) and nothing more sinister and they can only be seen on one's PC, if one chooses to install them, so shouldn't offend others, all I have done is produce them so that others have a personal choice.

Thanks to all for your comments,

Best Regards

Aces



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Aces High JG123 (123_Aces_JG123 on Hyperlobby)
IL2-MAT and Artwork Downloads
E-mail aces@acesartwork.co.uk
http://www.acesartwork.co.uk
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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:08 PM
thanks fopr taking th trouble AcesHigh.

Downloaded and they seemed to self install within the game but was wondering how to get them onto a plane...

If you could say, that'd be great.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:17 PM
Hi,

No problem, there are several programs that will display them. I have a program called IL2-MAT on my website which will display them (and other files available on my website such as weathered balkencrosses, red stars, numbers etc.).

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/il2mat_v11_setup%2BHookDLL.zip

Please see my March information program for latest setup information :

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/news_Mar.htm

Remember that the hook.dll file included in the zip file is to replace the one included in the setup.exe after you have installed IL2-MAT please read the text file that comes with it. This file is only needed if you fly online as hyperlobby uses IL2FB.EXE rather than IL2.EXE to launch FB.

My main information page for IL2-MAT is located at :

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/MAT%20Files%20Explained.htm

This will give you information on MAT and TGA files and how to configure IL2-MAT.

The thing to rmember is that IL2-MAT needs to be told where to find the IL2 FB program (by default C:\Program Files\IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles\) and the location of your MAT file(s) (C:\Program Files\IL-2 Sturmovik Forgotten Battles\CoopRegt) folder and needs to have file types to be copied set to "MAT" (click the blue plus sign and enter MAT.

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/FB_MAT_CONFIG.jpg


Tray icon, remember to check "active"

http://www.leigh-kemp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/active.jpg


That's it, when IL2-MAT detects FB launching it will copy over the neccessary files.

Get back to me if I can help out further.

Regards

Aces





Message Edited on 07/02/0302:17PM by Aces_High_2