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Saburo_0
01-09-2005, 10:09 PM
Stumbledon this pic & thought some of you might be interested.

http://www.usarmory.com/ftp/gi96tfp.jpg

p1ngu666
01-09-2005, 10:48 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

hardly offtopic mate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
good find http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Bearcat99
01-10-2005, 05:00 AM
Yeah I actually found one of those on EBay.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

LeadSpitter_
01-10-2005, 07:26 AM
Heres a new desktop theme for you bearcat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/acespace/bearcat99.jpg

T_O_A_D
01-10-2005, 07:36 AM
Thats just down right good LS http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

LeadSpitter_
01-10-2005, 07:39 AM
thanks toad if you want one made of another painting let me know

Stanger_361st
01-10-2005, 07:45 AM
Had the thrill of a lifetime 3 weeks ago meeting about 12 of them. Got to shake their hands and talked to them. They all had class. thees guys went well past the call of duty and more.
Salute to the Tuskegee.

Bearcat99
01-10-2005, 10:04 AM
LMAO!!!! SHEEEESH!!! Thanks LS for reminding me of the dangers of posting ones picture on the internet. Nice work though..... You are the Photoshop MAN!!! That is scary!!!!!

Daiichidoku
01-10-2005, 11:28 AM
Did the Tuskeegee guys actually HAVE P 51s? I thought they were eq with P 40 Ns or somesuch

Owlsphone
01-10-2005, 11:43 AM
Yes they had P51s.

I remember about 11 years ago or so a bunch of the Tuskegee pilots came to talk to our elementary school. I guess at the time I was too young to know their significance. I guess I just marveled at the fact that they were pilots.

I would love to be able to meet them again though.

Bearcat99
01-10-2005, 12:20 PM
As the 99th they flew P-39s, P-40s and briefly P-47s.... ans the 332nd FG comprising the 99th,100th,301st & 302nd Fighter Squadrons they flew P-51 Cs and Ds.

KRISTORF
01-10-2005, 12:24 PM
Amazing group of people who showed that just because your colour is differant does'nt mean you are differant and don't deserve a chance if your good enough. Salute to them all

leadbaloon
01-10-2005, 01:41 PM
I saw a programme about the P51 the other week with the Tuskeegee airmen on, they were quite something. One of them, whose name sadly escapes me, said that they had a record that to his knowledge had never been beaten, that in all their escort missions flying the P51 over Europe they didn't lose a single bomber. He didn't think this was too bad considering the top brass thought black men would be too dumb to learn to fly the 'planes and even if they did learn they'd be too cowardly to fight.

LEXX_Luthor
01-10-2005, 05:18 PM
Don't know where to find link, but somebody posted on ebonywings website a story of mail
correspondence with a Tuskegee pilot who flew (I think) I~152 in Spanish Civil WAR. Could of been
I~16, not sure don't remember. The Old Timer pilot passed away before the author could meet the man.

99th Obsidian
01-11-2005, 01:48 PM
The history of the Tuskegee Airmen is not something you'll find in most history books. However, there are a few films and lots of books, autobiographies on the subject. Look for Airmen films on the Discovery Wings channel or rent The Tuskegee Airmen starring Laurence Fishburne (of Matrix fame). This film is reasonable historically correct and does a great job capuring the emotion of fighting for a country that care less of you than the enemy did. They are/were great men and I proudly respect their service as a member of the Virtual 332nd.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6304039255/103-0421144-6592624?v=glance

NORAD_Zooly10
01-11-2005, 02:04 PM
i concur, these guys were the ultimate heroes, as mentioned, they were hated more by their own country than by the enemy.
~S~
Zooly

Owlsphone
01-11-2005, 02:14 PM
One of the Tuskegee Airmen said that the movie was 90% accurate. That's pretty good considering how Hollywood likes to use their "artistic license" to make movies more entertaining.

I highly recommend seeing The Tuskegee Airmen if you can rent/buy it. It's also on the History Channel every once in a while.

-HH- Beebop
01-11-2005, 06:08 PM
The Tuskeegee Airman had rare class. Despite being reviled by their fellow soldiers, they selflessly gave themselves in service to the United States. (notice I didn't use the phrase "their country". Although American by birth they could hardly have felt it was "their country" based on the discrimination and segregation and outright hatred they endured.)
It's interesting to note however that bomber crews loved seeing the "Red Tails" as their escort as they knew they were in the care of the best fighter pilots the US had.
It would be interesting to know how they would of fared in the Pacific Theatre.

99th members, (or anyone else), how many Black pilots served in the PTO? Any? All references I've found so far concerning Black airmen in WW II refer only to the Tuskeegee Airmen.

btw Leadspitter, very nice job.

berg417448
01-11-2005, 06:22 PM
They were great men and they did feel it was their country as much as anyone else's:


"We were fighting two battles. I flew for my parents, for my race, for our battle for first-class citizenship and for my country. We were fighting for the 14 million black Americans back home. We were there to break down barriers, open a few doors, and do a job."

"But we're all Americans. That's why we chose to fight. I'm as American as anybody. My black ancestors were brought over here, perhaps against their will, to help build America. My German ancestors came over to build a new life. And my Cherokee ancestors were here to greet all the boats." Joseph P. Gomer

MosDef_99th
01-12-2005, 12:09 AM
Bump....Great Thread

Bearcat99
01-12-2005, 07:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by -HH- Beebop:
The Tuskeegee Airman had rare class. Despite being reviled by their fellow soldiers, they selflessly gave themselves in service to the United States. (notice I didn't use the phrase "their country". Although American by birth they could hardly have felt it was "their country" based on the discrimination and segregation and outright hatred they endured.)
It's interesting to note however that bomber crews loved seeing the "Red Tails" as their escort as they knew they were in the care of the best fighter pilots the US had.
It would be interesting to know how they would of fared in the Pacific Theatre.

99th members, (or anyone else), how many Black pilots served in the PTO? Any? All references I've found so far concerning Black airmen in WW II refer only to the Tuskeegee Airmen.

btw Leadspitter, very nice job. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As far as I know Black pilots were not given Navy wings untill 1948. Many fought in Korea though...

joeap
01-12-2005, 02:34 PM
What about the AAF they fought in the PTO as well as different parts of ETO? I had read the Navy was ahh slower to accept Africa-Americans as officers than the Army at this time.

VMF223_Smitty
01-13-2005, 07:11 AM
<S!>

Was watching an interview by Charlie Rose with film-maker George Lucas last night.

After the blather about his past, Star Wars, etc., Lucas mentioned that one of his future projects is a new movie on the Tuskegee Airman.

Anyone else know anything about this?

Bearcat99
01-13-2005, 07:16 AM
No... first Im hearing about it...... I know that Morgan Freeman and kareem Abdul Jabbar are colaberating on a project based on Kareem's book "Brothers in Arms" about the 761st Black Panter tank battallion of patton's 3rd army. The book is an awsome read.......

VMF223_Smitty
01-13-2005, 07:22 AM
<S!>

For those interested in the "Redtails" and the history of the Tuskegee Airmen, check out the trailer and site at http://www.tuskegeeairmenfilm.com/index.htm

The combat record of the Tuskegee Airmen speaks for itself:

over 15,000 combat sorties (including 6000+ for the 99th prior to July '44)

111 German airplanes destroyed in the air, another 150 on the ground

950 railcars, trucks, and other motor vehicles destroyed

1 destroyer sunk by P-47 machine gun fire (Lt. Pierson's flight)

Sixty-six pilots killed in action or accidents
thirty-two pilots downed and captured, POWs

NO bombers lost while being escorted by the 332nd, a unique achievement

150 Distinguished Flying Crosses earned
744 Air Medals
8 Purple Hearts
14 Bronze Stars

NorrisMcWhirter
01-13-2005, 11:56 AM
Hi,

Indeed, these airmen were an inspiration, perhaps something akin to the Emmeline Pankhursts of the world....an odd comparison but you get the idea.

I have a question regarding any POWs captured by the Germans: as the Nazis weren't particularly fond of "non-whites", how were these airmen treated? were they "protected" by the Luftwaffe or...?

Cheers,
Norris

FA_Maddog
01-13-2005, 03:58 PM
S~ to the Tuskegee Airman for fighting and winning, not only in the ETO, but also on the home front.