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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 07:41 PM
It was a great jet fighter, used many times to destroy V-1 flying bombs, for example. Might be another great jet engined vector to the simulator.

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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 07:41 PM
It was a great jet fighter, used many times to destroy V-1 flying bombs, for example. Might be another great jet engined vector to the simulator.

Thanks

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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 08:20 PM
it would be a good jet but with the p-80 coming out the meteor would be clearly inferior i think the de haviland vampire MK.I would be better.

XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 09:04 PM
Carvalho, pode aguardar q e Meteor ja etsa sendo preparado...



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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 09:08 PM
Ahh a ahter jet fighter good lord wehn is someone trying to get for us more flyable bombers.
The war is not won by Fighters only and this game need some more flyable bombers.

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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 10:00 PM
many flyable bombers are on the way i believe. cant wait till he177 is flyable oh yes.

but u cannot deny the effectiveness of jet fighters that CAN manuever and fight hoenstly the 262 is to slow and sluggish i know i may get heat for that but thats just my opinion.

XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 10:02 PM
wehn is someone
- trying to get for us more flyable bombers.
- The war is not won by Fighters only and this game
- need some more flyable bombers.


The A-20,B-26,Ju-88,B-25,Lancaster,He-177 are all in the works. I probably missed some. The A-20,B-26 and Ju-88 are currently planned to be flyable. I'm not sure about the B-25,Lanc,or the Greif though....

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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 10:30 PM
A meteor or vampire would be great for this sim i too wish someone would model them.....

XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 10:34 PM
The Brits need a representative in the "jet department". The U.S. has the P-80 and Germany has the Me-262,He-162,and the Go-229. I have a question for you Brits(or anyone who knows):which was better,the Vampire or Meteor and why?

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XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 10:39 PM
The vampire is certainly more manouverable and more versatile and also stayed in service well into the 80's with the finish airforce as a trainer.
One of the reasons it stayed in service for so long and became a trainer in the first place was because of its excelent and forgiving handling characteristics.



Message Edited on 10/04/0301:48PM by johno__UK

XyZspineZyX
10-03-2003, 11:55 PM
It's great that someone is doing the P-80... but, what's it doing in a WW2 sim? So a couple (another book says 4)arrived in Italy just before VE day, but they saw no action. The Meteor had at least been in combat since the summer of 44.

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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 12:00 AM
Gibbage finished the P-80 a couple of months ago. I think it was done in the spirit of the Luft 46 project. Most of the German planes in it never saw operational service but are included anyway. It's kind of a hypothetical thing.

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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 12:27 AM
Kernow wrote:
- The Meteor had at least been in
- combat since the summer of 44.

It would be nice to get a Mk. I _and_ a Mk. III.
The Mk. I only has a max speed of 415 mph and 10,000
feet - on the whole a little slower than the Tempest V.
The Mk III was deployed in January 1945 and had
a top speed of 490mph - quite an improvement, if still
slower by 60mph than the P80A.



Message Edited on 10/03/0311:27PM by AaronGT

XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 01:43 AM
brits had first jet engines didnt we?

XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 01:57 AM
I'm sorry, but it's wrong... The germans built the first jet engine.

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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 02:42 AM
Kernow wrote:
- It's great that someone is doing the P-80... but,
- what's it doing in a WW2 sim? So a couple (another
- book says 4)arrived in Italy just before VE day, but
- they saw no action. The Meteor had at least been in
- combat since the summer of 44.
-
- Kernow
- 249 IAP
-


Oleg asked the modelers for aircraft up to 1947, thus the P-80 was modeled.



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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 12:08 PM
cmte_carvalho wrote:
- I'm sorry, but it's wrong... The germans built the
- first jet engine.
-

LOL, I'm sorry but you're wrong.The Germans did not have the 1st jet engine, they had the 1st operational jet fighter.
The British had the 1st jet engine, Frank Whittle invented the jet engine and he was British.
Oh and as to the question of the best early British jet, I'd pick the Vampire Mk I over the Meteor Mk III.It was substantially faster and a lot more agile, shame it didn't see action during WWII.


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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 12:14 PM
RE: Please guys, develop a Gloster Meteor


Isn't killjoy2k2 doing one?

I seem to remember seeing some development shots here a while ago.

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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 01:31 PM
PLEASE dont mention his name. It may come back to haunt the forums. Something I would not wish on my worst enemy.

Gib

commie1 wrote:
- RE: Please guys, develop a Gloster Meteor
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- Isn't killjoy2k2 doing one?
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- I seem to remember seeing some development shots
- here a while ago.
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- Should be real kewl./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 01:35 PM
Well, maybe it was a good a/c... but no doubts it was ugly one! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 01:44 PM
The meteor has been tried, but I don't know why it was started or stopped.

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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 02:53 PM
Gibb have you ever thought of doing the vampire or meteor and if not how much would you do one for $$$...

XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 04:27 PM
DeerHunterUK wrote:
-
- cmte_carvalho wrote:
-- I'm sorry, but it's wrong... The germans built the
-- first jet engine.
--
-
- LOL, I'm sorry but you're wrong.The Germans did not
- have the 1st jet engine, they had the 1st
- operational jet fighter.
- The British had the 1st jet engine, Frank Whittle
- invented the jet engine and he was British.
- Oh and as to the question of the best early British
- jet, I'd pick the Vampire Mk I over the Meteor Mk
- III.It was substantially faster and a lot more
- agile, shame it didn't see action during WWII.



First jet plane was a biplane in 1910. Not only that was jet powered but it had wooden wings with camber (instead of canvas), wing slats for better lift, wing fuel tanks!!

It flew but crashed, and the inventor did not find any funds to built another one. Later he worked for Bristol in the interbelic period IIRC.


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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 04:48 PM
Really? What was the inventors name? Was is an air-breathing engine, or a rocket design (technically a jet, as rockets have a jet nozzle). Most sources I know of credit the He 178.


"The Heinkel He178 flew for the first time on August 27, 1939. The pilot on this historic first flight of a jet-powered airplane was Flight Captain Erich Warsitz."

from:

http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bljetengine.htm

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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 05:00 PM
Cajun76 wrote:
- Really? What was the inventors name? Was is an
- air-breathing engine, or a rocket design
- (technically a jet, as rockets have a jet nozzle).
- Most sources I know of credit the He 178.


Inventor's name is Henry Coanda, the one who gave the "Coanda Effect". He is one of the pioneers in aeronautics.

It was an air breathing engine, more exactly a compressor driven by an internal combustion engine, compresses the air for combustion. Engine thrust comes from the jet exhaust.

It had the same arrangement as that used by the Caproni jet 30 years later. It's not a turbojet in the way we know it today, the engine does not have a turbine.

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XyZspineZyX
10-04-2003, 06:16 PM
Guys like that are awesome, genius and hard work. I work on the Rolls Royce T-56-7 and -15 models on the C-130. Those engines were designed in the 50s, and I know how complicated that mechanical fuel scheduling can get. For that guy to do it, in 1910, with no direct feedback between exhaust and compressor (like a turbine) is just amazing. That design looks like it would be incredibly easy to either flame out or bog down. I guess he just used trial and error to get the fuel flow right for the engine/compressor rpm's. It's so much easier with a turbine running the compressor. Then, there's pressure altitude and temperature to adjust for.... just genius.....

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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