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mean_mango
06-02-2007, 11:56 PM
It usually occurs after a fairly successful mission http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. While on final approach I'm taking it nice and easy, a careful precision landing. Just as I'm about to touch down I get RAMMED from behind by my wingman and destroyed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Why the heck is this happening and how can I prevent it?

mean_mango
06-02-2007, 11:56 PM
It usually occurs after a fairly successful mission http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. While on final approach I'm taking it nice and easy, a careful precision landing. Just as I'm about to touch down I get RAMMED from behind by my wingman and destroyed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Why the heck is this happening and how can I prevent it?

VW-IceFire
06-03-2007, 12:07 AM
Are you wingleader? Did you order them to return to base or are they still in formation with you? Yes the AI is sort of stupid in this regards but they basically do everything that they are told...to the T...without regard. So if you told them to form on you then they are formed on you...and will not leave you. Incredible discipline http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Its either that or you were denied clearance to land and landed anyways with another plane already in the pattern. Again, the AI isn't that smart in that it doesn't see you there...its goal is to land the plane to the exclusion of all else.

tmrtex
06-03-2007, 05:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mean_mango:
It usually occurs after a fairly successful mission http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif. While on final approach I'm taking it nice and easy, a careful precision landing. Just as I'm about to touch down I get RAMMED from behind by my wingman and destroyed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Why the heck is this happening and how can I prevent it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here's a pic demonstrating the results of not giving your flight the RTB order...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w171/tmrtex/il22007-05-0411-46-12-73.jpg

Blood_Splat
06-03-2007, 05:40 AM
In a dogfight my squad is more of a danger to me than the enemy fighters lol. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

horseback
06-03-2007, 09:30 AM
This has happened to me on a number of occasions as well, but most often when I was flying Number 2 in the flight, and Number One got himself shot down.

In these situations, you are the default 'leader', because the remainder of your flight formates on you, but you CANNOT issue orders. In these cases, it is an excellent idea to hit all your waypoints, and after flying over the last (landing field) waypoint, make sure your ai wingmen land first.

Or, if your campaign difficulty settings allow, and the Mission Complete message has been received, hit the Escape key before landing when you can't 'shake' your wingmen and you have multiple kills that you want to be credited with.

cheers

horseback

mean_mango
06-03-2007, 03:54 PM
Thanks for the suggestions. This does seem to be happening because I am the leader and can't "shake" the wingmen. Although, I'm always cleared to land when this happens. If I issue a RTB, will my wing simply go off on their own landing pattern?

mbfRoy
06-03-2007, 03:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mean_mango:
Thanks for the suggestions. This does seem to be happening because I am the leader and can't "shake" the wingmen. Although, I'm always cleared to land when this happens. If I issue a RTB, will my wing simply go off on their own landing pattern? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>yes

Philipscdrw
06-04-2007, 05:42 AM
Here's to proper airfield control in SoW! When approaching the airbase, flash your aircraft letter in morse on the signal lamp (did fighters carry them, or just bombers?) and the airfield flying control officer replies with your aircraft letter on a green Aldis lamp, then shows you a green lamp to land. If anything goes wrong, your undercarriage is up or something, something's moved onto the runway, he'll fire a red Verey-pistol signal flare at you. I don't know if SoW will have that kind of system but I can dream...

Pirschjaeger
06-04-2007, 10:25 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mean_mango:
how can I prevent it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's always good practice to shoot down your wingman before landing.

Seriously, he'll do anything he can to stay in formation so it's not so easy to get his 6. Like I said "good practice", and it's more fun that giving the RTB order. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Oh, almost forgot. Always make sure your wingman is AI. Squad mates can be a bit edgy sometimes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

triad773
06-04-2007, 12:13 PM
I (when I remember anyway) issue an RTB order, then land LAST. Or wait until the other flyers land.

After spending 20-40 minutes in mission, the last thing I want to happen is get hosed up by errant AI.

That and its great practice (as well as realistic) to be held up in a landing pattern http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif