View Full Version : OT FS2004 enhancements

01-01-2006, 06:46 PM
Just like to let any FS2004 simmers around here know, I've found a few incredible addons which really improve the look of default FS2004. I'd go so far as to say that it now nearly looks as good as FB, not quite, but it's getting much closer.

Anyway, first the FSGenesis meshes found here (http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=FSGenesis+38.2m+Enhanced+Ter rain&CatID=fs2004scen&Go=Search) This is for the USA and improves the default terrain incredibly, the mountains and valleys, etc... are in mostly the right places and with much more detail.

Second, Bill Lyons replacement textures. These make all the difference. Get them here (http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=Bill+Lyons+Silver+Wings&CatID=fs2004scen&Go=Search)

AVSIM requires a registration, but the files are free to download, and the files I mentioned make FS2004 look incredible.

HTH somebody,

01-01-2006, 06:49 PM
I really don't want to register. Do you have any screenshots?

01-01-2006, 08:41 PM
Sure, here's a few of mine and a few of Bill Lyon's:

Baron near Richmond, VA

Rockies, near Aspen

Blue Ridge Mountains, Summer

Blue Ridge Mountains, Winter


Bush Scenery

Grand Canyon

Rural Area

Spring scenery

Small Town

It really looks incredible while you're flying!


01-01-2006, 09:49 PM
That does look pretty good. I wonder how FSX will look?

01-02-2006, 07:23 AM

GREAT FIND on the Lyon's textures - that sure is a treat... THANK YOU for sharing! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

01-02-2006, 08:09 AM
MSFS fans have always been the maddest http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Three years ago:

Anyone know any possible release date for FSX?

01-02-2006, 08:12 AM
Q4 2006

01-02-2006, 08:17 AM

01-02-2006, 12:30 PM
Is that a Piper Tri-Pacer, with the green LG? It's been ages since I"ve seen one!

01-02-2006, 12:33 PM
enhancements....did they add guns?..flying is boring without those. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

01-02-2006, 01:08 PM
I bought the VFR terrain and photo scenery for the UK from Horizon Simulation:


I also bought the Spitfire XIV from RealAir which has a superb flight model and the best Virtual Cockpit for the sim I think.


FS2004 doesn't let you shoot at anything but if you want to 'fly' a JU-52 in winter camoflage over the alps in a snowstorm it can't be beaten http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

01-02-2006, 01:31 PM
Some of those Lyon's textures are great looking, others I'm not sure on. Also be on the watch for "Ground Environment" by the guys who created "Flight Environment".

I've used the FSGenesis 76 mesh for a long while now and really enjoy it. For clouds I use FS Sky World 2004, which has an easy to use selector for previewing and changing the cloud textures before flying.

An important element in getting a pleasing environment is atmospheric visibility. I try to stay in the 20 to 40 mile range, never at "unlimited". Here is Sky World and FSG, with PMDG B1900C and Dreamwings ERJ-170 (I mostly fly regional turboprop and jet these days).


01-02-2006, 07:18 PM
nice shots, the XIV i got aswell (well my dad has) and its the best model ive come across, all the little touches http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

fs2004 is good once u replace the ground, meshes, planes, sounds, FM, sky, water, clouds, and other things http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

01-02-2006, 07:31 PM
Ok, here's the thing. I like FS2004 very much, but I don't have time to do the necessary research to enhance it like many of you have done.

Pingu mentioned
the ground, meshes, planes, sounds, FM, sky, water, clouds, and other things .

So, who'll give me a short list of necessary changes one can do to FS2004 with names and links plz?
I'd like to have beautiful graphics like the ones above, I'd like to fly somewhere in the Pacific and see islands like the one in "Lost" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif underneath, I'd like to have better sound etc. What can I do without having to think a lot about it?

Oohh, and I got a sig by the Fragdolls http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif hahahaha http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.

01-02-2006, 07:50 PM
I have been so close to purchasing FS2004. But I am worried about performance on my rig. My expectations would be that graphics options be turned up pretty high @ 1024 x 768 for a minimum of 25 fps. No AA would be neccessary for me at that res. So, would I be dissapointed with an AMD 64 3200+, 1024 megs of ram, and an ATIx700 Pro? How does FS2004 run in comparison to say, oh, Il2?

I remember I had an AMD 1700. I bought FS2004 and was not happy with the results. I upgraded the video with basically zero results. I sold the sim. I upgraded to an AMD 2400+. I bought the game again - same result. Performance was not quite there for me. I upgraded to my current rig, bought the sim again, and I am super happy. Framerates through the roof (even thought a steady 25 - 30 is acceptable).

Am I silly or what? Oh well - what do you guys think - is it worth it on my humble rig?


01-02-2006, 08:04 PM

I think you should be fine, and FS2004 should run pretty well with your specs.

I have a Pentium M 2.13 Ghz, 6800 Ultra 256MB, 1 Gig of Ram, I run at 1920 * 1200 with 4xAA and 2xAF and get a solid 32 fps with everything turned up really high.


The links I posted are good places to start with, Bill Lyons replacement textures especially.

That will take care of the ground and water.

Then, you should get FS Sky World from here (http://fsw.simflight.com/fsw2004.html), That will let you change clouds and sky.

For planes, sounds, and FM check http://www.avsim.com http://www.flightsim.com and http://www.simviation.com and download what you fancy.

For the meshes, the ones I linked in my first post are good for the USA, or the freeware meshes for the entire world found here (http://www.simviation.com/fsdterrainsrtm.htm)

Hope this helps,

01-02-2006, 08:48 PM
Probably does. I'll check that tomorrow. Thanks m8.

01-02-2006, 10:10 PM
The Bill Lyons package is good for some areas but I wasn't happy with what how it makes modern urban centers look, especially in the Northeast USA. Everything gets a "small town" look, for lack of a better description.

For cities and even rural areas I am pleased with the Bird's Eye View packages. They aren't perfect either but they sort of balance out the ultra-realism of MegaScenery and other satellite photo overlays and the dynamic, broad coverage of AutoGen. Plus BEV gives you various options to "mix and match" textures you like. See my screenshots comparing Bill Lyon's Silver Wings package with BEV summer textures:

01-03-2006, 06:20 AM
Dugong you should get reasonable performance with that setup, you will probably have to keep the traffic and weather effects turned down though as these are the biggest fps killers.

01-03-2006, 11:29 AM
Those look nice and I have FS2004,but I´m too lazy to download and tinker with all those settings and such.I want one gigant patch/file with just one click on the mouse to install and then just go up in the air.
Well,now I got some demons to eradicate...off to Painkiller http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

01-03-2006, 12:13 PM
Here's a thread at SOH FS2004 Forums I started recently, there are some great addons to be had. Check it out.



01-03-2006, 01:38 PM
That does look really good, and almost good enough to try (though I still think that virtual flying without weapons is just watching pixels slide by) - but not enough to buy M$FS.

Is there anyway to use that stuff in CFS3?

01-04-2006, 09:09 AM
How does the FSGenesis mesh compare to the Global terrain mesh available on simviation? I've been using the 70m Global mesh for some time now and am pleased with it but still find that the terrain still doesnt compare to the real thing.

Is FSG higher resolution?