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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:59 PM
I was flying a P-39Q1, and got a 37mm shot on a Hurry Mk2, Now the funny thing is that the bullet didn't hit him "directly" and cause some heavy damage, but touched him more like sratching a wing, so there wasn't big damage on the A/C, aldough the pilot got killed(I'm using arcade mode).
Well, My point is: Before the patch, any 37mm hit like that usualy caused a wing to take a fly on her own, but now, oly seemed to explode over the wing, spreading srapnels everywhere(and therefor kiling the pilot).
Seems like a nice effect to me .../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 10:59 PM
I was flying a P-39Q1, and got a 37mm shot on a Hurry Mk2, Now the funny thing is that the bullet didn't hit him "directly" and cause some heavy damage, but touched him more like sratching a wing, so there wasn't big damage on the A/C, aldough the pilot got killed(I'm using arcade mode).
Well, My point is: Before the patch, any 37mm hit like that usualy caused a wing to take a fly on her own, but now, oly seemed to explode over the wing, spreading srapnels everywhere(and therefor kiling the pilot).
Seems like a nice effect to me .../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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michapma
08-15-2003, 11:28 PM
Nice observation. Watch out for the P-39 37mm flak gun. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:30 PM
I like the throttle damage now...was really surprized when i got it last night...what a challenge to land without cotrol over it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:33 PM
crazyivan1970 wrote:
- I like the throttle damage now...was really
- surprized when i got it last night...what a
- challenge to land without cotrol over it

Trottle damage? Never encountered it, How is it? Sounds quite cool /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:34 PM
Another one:

Though I have been unable to reproduce it (minimal trying), I am certain that while attacking an I16 (with P40) the landing gear dropped down, obviously due to cut hydraulic line. This was an excellent effect (I know I know, I16 didn't have hydraulic landing gear, come on cut em some slack, theirs 80+ aircraft in the game) and very convincing.

XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:36 PM
Maybe the cables were snapped./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:44 PM
Cool! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif , but any1 can tell me about that throttle damage, plz? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:53 PM
your throttle freezes in it's last setting.

If it's at full then you can use prop-pitch to get some controll of it on landing.

XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:54 PM
Throttle damage has never happened to me. This isn't really DM related,but I was glad to see that the AI can stall now. I was playing the "France(or something like that)" mission I d/l'ed from Mudmovers,and in it you must intercept 4 Bf-110's with your flight of Hurricanes. Well, I made several passes on one of the 110's and got his engine to flaming. As I overshot him,he quickly made an evasive maneuver to avoid hitting me and got himself in a stall. We weren't but about 200m off the deck,so obviously he couldn't recover. Now THAT really impressed me. It just looked so cool...

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Message Edited on 08/15/0305:55PM by necrobaron

XyZspineZyX
08-15-2003, 11:54 PM
I thought there was throttle damage in v1.0 as well, its happened to me anyway in v1.0, but yes it is rare to have happen thank goodness.

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:01 AM
Thanks for the info guys.
I remember something like that also I was fightin' on the deck(about 50m more or less) with a Fw and I got him in a turn fight and suddenly he dissapeard beneath me, well when I looked down there was only a big hole in the ground. He was heavily damaged, so probably something like this happened... that really impresed me at the time ,but never thought that something like that happened... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:08 AM
Von_Zero wrote:

- Trottle damage? Never encountered it, How is it?
- Sounds quite cool

At least in pre-patch version, "throttle damage" was one of the most common malfunctions in the P-40 next to the 50's been taken out after getting shot up. Can be quite some some fun to land the su*ker with max power /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif . But like someone suggested already, reducing prop helps.

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:12 AM
DM is very good after patch .. i´ve got pp damaged on one accation and the prop got wild and rushed on its owne with airspeed droppin of ...that was cool only thing to do in that case was to bail out......lol.

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:16 AM
I haven't flown the P-40 too much, I never considere it a plane with enough "soul" for my taste, like the 109 and the P-39 has. I have to admitt it,, almost everytime I was flying a P-40 I finished the flight 2 feet "under", either got shot down, either entered in a spin(waaaaay too common for me). I never got the hang of thoa bird, Don't get me wrong, It' s a good plane, but not when I'm inside. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 02:25 AM
When your throttle is hit, you can still shut down the engine or cut off fuel to it using mixture, correct?


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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 03:07 AM
I had throttle damage in 1.0, unfortunately the He-111 I was flying didn't have mixture control... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 08:07 AM
The DM model is much nicer now and I also like the way the AI get into spins after you hit them very realistic.

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 10:49 AM
i've also noticed its possible to get flaps or gear damaged in a fight. sometimes the flaps will just not come down or the gear will jam. if the gear jams, you can use the manual controls to lower it on some planes. cool effect even though its rare.

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:37 PM
I've had my throttle jammed in 1.0 too couple times (La5), the langing wasn't that hard because of how the engine slows the plane down, I'd imagine landing would be a bit harder in 1.1b /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Oh and another thing, you can now touch the water without immediately sinking in it (Atleast touching was harder in 1.0, if not impossible)
Though you loose your prop and gears, but still /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 12:50 PM
That`s really great! The engine damage seems to get much more real in 1.1...

Now another great feature: I attacked formation of russian Pe-8 bombers, hitting two of its planes in one pass. The first one get many hits, but continued to fly. As I came too close, I had to turn away from its heavy cannons and I attacked another plane. Then I saw all the bombers turning left trying to escape. The first damaged plane turned a little too sharp, trying to stay in formation, but the damaged wing didn`t get throug this maneuver and RIPPED OFF!!! This happened often in real - the damaged wing surface gets even more damage through air pressure. It was great sight.

Cpt.LoneRanger
08-16-2003, 01:05 PM
I didn't know, what was damaged, but I got a motor hit, yesterday in a P40 and the motor seemed to not get enough fuel. The Revs went up and down about 20% all the time. After landing I shut down the engine and tried to restart it just for fun. Just sounded like poff-poff, but couldn't get it running again.

DM rulz

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 07:19 PM
That IS pretty cool. I've never been able to get the engine to even ATTEMPT to restart once it's damaged and shut off...

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Cpt.LoneRanger
08-16-2003, 09:26 PM
I shut it down on approach, before it stopped by itself. The possibility for a "restart" depends on the damage done to the engine, I think. If the oil is gone and the engine is wrecked it's not possible, but if it's not completely destroyed it works.

Infact before that patch I managed to restart engine on a P40 AFTER IT FAILED! It was definately a bug, cause the engine brought me back in the air and accelerated me to 860kph (in an unpatched P40!) in about 15 seconds.
Tried to repeat it, but it didn't work again /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Did you see the screenies from the damage-modell in FB? They modelled over 10 areas in and around the engine that can be hit. This is really cool.

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 09:52 PM
Yeap It looks great when you hit the top of the engines with mg's or 20mm, and it bursts in flames./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
This effect is great especialy on hurry's

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