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nakamura_kenji
02-20-2006, 06:31 AM
look sukhoi.ru find pictures

ki-27 cockpit
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/ki-27_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/ki-27.jpg

A5M
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/a5m_4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/a5m_3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/a5m_2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/a5m_1.jpg

understand babelfish russian/englsih correct a5m in engine, no cockpit planned v_v

GerritJ9
02-20-2006, 08:43 AM
Great pics, thanks for finding them! Look forward to trying the Ki.27........ as a target for my Buffalo http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

vocatx
02-20-2006, 11:59 AM
Too bad that the A5M probably won't be flyable. It was a very important aircraft up to 1941. Let's hope the Ki-27 will be flyable. I've got plans for that one!

vocatx
02-20-2006, 12:00 PM
Oh, by the way, thanks for posting the pics, Kenji! Look forward to flying on Zekes with you again, too.

Yog_Shoggoth
02-20-2006, 01:59 PM
Finaly, a worthy (easy) opponent for my beloved I-16!

Chuck_Older
02-20-2006, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Yog_Shoggoth:
Finaly, a worthy (easy) opponent for my beloved I-16!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Imperial Japanese Army pilots who had just stopped flying Ki-27s because their units were issued new Ki-43s complained about the Ki-43's sub-par maneuverability. Be forewarned

VW-IceFire
02-20-2006, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Yog_Shoggoth:
Finaly, a worthy (easy) opponent for my beloved I-16!

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Imperial Japanese Army pilots who had just stopped flying Ki-27s because their units were issued new Ki-43s complained about the Ki-43's sub-par maneuverability. Be forewarned </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wait wait...if the Ki-43 can turn on a dime...what can a Ki-27 turn on? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Stigler_9_JG52
02-20-2006, 03:28 PM
Wait wait...if the Ki-43 can turn on a dime...what can a Ki-27 turn on? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The pennies in change the dime leaves behind, be sure...

darkhorizon11
02-20-2006, 03:48 PM
Sweet deal cockpit or not!

DIRTY-MAC
02-20-2006, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by nakamura_kenji:

understand babelfish russian/englsih correct a5m in engine, no cockpit planned v_v

Though im happy about the Ki27 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif, its sad there is no cocpit for the A5M http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

Feathered_IV
02-20-2006, 07:15 PM
Wait wait...if the Ki-43 can turn on a dime...what can a Ki-27 turn on?

They can dance on the head of a pin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Great find Kenji san. Looks like the stories are true. I'd pay any ammount of money for those two flyable.

ElAurens
02-20-2006, 07:43 PM
Thanks for the pics.

I can't wait for the Ki 27.

LEXX_Luthor
02-21-2006, 01:01 AM
Closed canopy too. It looks like they are trying to model static canopy "reflections" by darkening the canopy glass. Note how washed out and dark the sky and terrain are, but the cockpit is "clean."

Why can't they stick with the dynamic sun reflections like in Fw-190 or I-16 and call it a day, instead of giving the glass a dark tint?

nakamura_kenji
02-21-2006, 03:07 AM
They can dance on the head of a pin

helium atom think ^_^

it mirror also 0_0 ^_^ no blind 6 like ki-43 >_<

Akwar
02-21-2006, 11:43 PM
That reminds me of the KI-27 in Aces Over the Pacific early war in the campaign.God them 2 7.7 MGs in the wings didnt do much!Man even though them sims are ancient I miss AOTP and AOE for all the variety it had.I have the aces collection somewhere on CD here.THe Ki27 although seriously undergunned will mag a welcome sight should we get it in PF.

Doug_Thompson
02-22-2006, 04:18 PM
BTW, this plane was the most numerous Japanese fighter aircraft in deployment on Dec. 7, 1941.

Browning50cal
02-22-2006, 07:36 PM
I believe that the Ki-43 takes a slight penalty in maneuverability from the weight of the retractable landing gear and associated systems. If I'm not mistaken, the Ki-43 is faster, and has better performance in a dive. It was truly a next generation fighter at the time of it's introduction.

B50

Nimits
02-22-2006, 10:42 PM
It's just ironic, that the Ki-43, which was THE most manuverable frontline aircraft in WWII (more so than even the A6M), was intially disliked by IJAAF pilots because it wasn't manuverable enough . . .

Ki-27 and Ai A5M will go along way to making the Singapore and Coral Sea orders of battle complete. Not to mention, if they ever release a Philippines map, a flyable Ki-27 going up against the P-40s would be a very interesting experiance.

leitmotiv
02-22-2006, 10:59 PM
A flying B5N2 "Kate" is sorely needed, a flying Ki 27 will be wonderful, and even a AI A5N will be great. How about I-16 Types 5 and 10 for China and Spain and a CR32! Wish wish.

GerritJ9
02-23-2006, 04:29 AM
Nimits, the Ki.27 wasn't used over the Philippines during the Japanese invasion- it simply did not have the range to fly from Formosa to Luzon and back. The IJNAF did almost all of the aerial fighting since their aeroplanes did have the range the IJAAF fighters lacked.

leitmotiv
02-23-2006, 07:54 AM
Ki27 deployed to Philippines after the Japanese Army landed and established air bases, GerritJ9.

Nimits
02-23-2006, 02:30 PM
Ki-27 (along with other short range Army aircraft) moved into the Philippines to support the Army after the Americans and Philippinos retreated to Bataan.

GerritJ9
02-23-2006, 03:37 PM
You are correct, Ki.27s were indeed flown over to Luzon after the necessary aerodromes had been captured.

darkhorizon11
02-23-2006, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
A flying B5N2 "Kate" is sorely needed, a flying Ki 27 will be wonderful, and even a AI A5N will be great. How about I-16 Types 5 and 10 for China and Spain and a CR32! Wish wish.

I concur, along side at least an AI B6N1 Tenzan, there was definitely one in the works at some point by 1c if you check the old development updates...

leitmotiv
02-23-2006, 04:43 PM
My only disappointment with PAC FIGHTERS was the lack of a flyable Kate---no other mission demanded as much nerve as flying right into the USN light AA---by Santa Cruz it was close to a suicide mission, by Philippine Sea it was a suicide mission.

Treetop64
02-23-2006, 05:13 PM
Good find, Nakamura-san!

Looks like the F2s will finally have something they can actually have some success aganist (namely, the A5Ms)!

Flyable or no, I'm eagerly awaiting these two planes, as I play War in the Pacific a lot, and the Ki27s and A5Ms are heavily represented in early scenarios in that game. I like to construct missions in PF based on my experiences in WitP. Quite a bit of fun to do that! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HarlockGN
02-23-2006, 08:25 PM
Those would REALLY help my spring-summer 1941 china DCG campaign... (alongside with a G3m bomber and an half decemnt Hankow area map maybe... it's terrible to have to use western europe for it ^_^;http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, right now, after AGES (literally) of research i've been able to put together an historically half decent japanese order of battle for the planes we have (12 Kokutai IJN with A6M2 Type 11, B5N and D3A and 59th Hiko Sentai IAAF with the first operational Ki-43, both based at Hankow) but the holes in such order of battle are IMMENSE (well... actually on the japanese side they're immense all the way to 1945 in all operational areas.... expecially army wise... but oh well...)
A5M and Ki-27 would help big time filling the holes, even only as AI...

JtD
02-24-2006, 07:44 AM
I think the often quoted dislike for the "less maneuvarable" K-i43 came from prototypes that were not yet equipped with the smart flaps system of serial Ki-43's. Even though I expect the 27 to be superior, I don't think it will play in a different league.

P38Ace
02-24-2006, 09:49 AM
Ki27 nice I just hope A5M is flyable