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firsTraveler
10-30-2004, 05:50 PM
I have an origional Sidewinder joystick. I'd like to upgrade as mines getting a bit cranky. Since I don't have space for a complicated HOTAS system, could I get a few sugestions on the best "handheld" joystick for PC flight games?

Thank you

Bearcat99
10-30-2004, 05:57 PM
I know you said you dont have the space for a complicated HOTAS system.. but go here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html) and see what you can do. Basically it is only about 12 square inches youy need. Do yourself a favor and make adjustments and get one of those.

mucker
10-30-2004, 06:03 PM
CH Fighterstick USB and CH Pro Pedals USB....for me there are an adequate amount of buttons and the control is very precise....they are well built but they are pricey. I don't have the Pro throttle and don't miss it (or have the room) A precise throttle wheel is present on the fighterstick. Check www.provantage.com (http://www.provantage.com) for fair prices ($97 stick, $94 pedals).

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Spectre_USA
10-30-2004, 06:08 PM
Gotta agree with BearCat. I owned the original Sidewinder, and still have the Precision Pro 1,
and also have a PP2. Since I got my X-45 combo, they have been gathering dust.

I figured it'd be a tough transition, but was surprisingly easy to get used to. HOTAS rock, and
the place Mr. 99 pointed out are reconditioned for a better price...

artjunky
10-30-2004, 07:17 PM
I got the x45 at one point but took it back because I couldn't stand the way the spring worked on it. I didn't like the way you needed to get over that "lip" or ridge that held the springs in place before you could make fine incremental adjustements. Perhap it would have worked better had I been able to cut the springs a little shorter.

Has anyone tried this? Did it work?

ACmisterE
10-30-2004, 08:53 PM
Had a Saitek Evo, it was a decent stick (before that a Saitek Cyborg 3D) and last week got an x45. There is absolutely no comparison. Having a non-twist stick makes SO much difference. It's near impossible to turn without any rudder on twist sticks, which can be a real pain. I'll never go back. Having a real throttle is a lot nicer than the evo's as well.

Tully__
10-30-2004, 10:08 PM
My views on sticks (http://www.airwarfare.com/tech/sticks.htm), it's a bit long but what the hey... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

fordfan25
10-31-2004, 12:18 AM
well if ya want something fairly cheap but good then maby the saitek cyborg evo.You can find it for about 30 to 50 dollers US. it has a twist handel so no need to spend extra mony for rudder peddels.its comfy and has a decent button lay out. the movement is smooth also. im sure it doesnt compair to the more expensive flight sticks.but its cheap + you dont have to spend even more cash on the rudder controles. just dont get a logitech thay go bad very fast.

ACmisterE
10-31-2004, 12:47 AM
forgot to mention...i'm a lefty and started out with a saitek cyborg evo. After a few months of fairly heavy use, the palm rest just snapped off like nothing. I've had the evo for about 2 months and it's starting to show a tad of play in the palm rest as well (same design as the cyborg), I'm sure it'll trash out soon. So really, between those two sticks I spent just as much as I would have for an X45 to begin with, and if i only had the evo now it'd be trash soon as well. Buy a scratch & dent x45 or some other very nice stick. It really isn't worth replacing sticks all the time if you use them regularly. Oh, and I adjusted to using a righty stick in all of 20mins. So any other lefty's needn't be shy.

Syama
10-31-2004, 04:50 AM
Hey has anyone ordered one of Saitek's reconditioned joysticks??? There's an X-45 on there for 40$...Just wondering what kind of condition they'd be in.

Tully__
10-31-2004, 08:56 AM
I believe Bearcat99 got his there.