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stalkervision
08-22-2008, 10:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFpO83srh-Y&feature=related

the 109 pilot uses his 109 the way it is ment to be used. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

na85
08-22-2008, 12:52 PM
nicely flown

Xiolablu3
08-22-2008, 12:57 PM
Nice job !

SOmeone should tell him the 109K4 is just absolutely useless, the 'aces' told me so... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

P.FunkAdelic
08-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Nice job !

SOmeone should tell him the 109K4 is just absolutely useless, the 'aces' told me so... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Please.... tell him... so that I may overhear and glean that particular bit of info.

FatCat_99
08-22-2008, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Nice job !

SOmeone should tell him the 109K4 is just absolutely useless, the 'aces' told me so... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

LOL ,version of the game used in the video is something like 3.0,nothing changed in the meantime? Do you play Il2 at all?

On topic: Video is good and educational.

FC

TX-Gunslinger
08-22-2008, 04:44 PM
Narration and illustration is excellent. I have always enjoyed training through tracks from online vs AI experience. They are quite few and far between.

I had not seen this - even though it's much older.

S~

Gunny

Xiolablu3
08-23-2008, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by FatCat_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Nice job !

SOmeone should tell him the 109K4 is just absolutely useless, the 'aces' told me so... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

LOL ,version of the game used in the video is something like 3.0,nothing changed in the meantime? Do you play Il2 at all?

Gulf war

FC </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yes the 109K4 speed and climb has changed sooo much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FatCat_99
08-23-2008, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FatCat_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Nice job !

SOmeone should tell him the 109K4 is just absolutely useless, the 'aces' told me so... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

LOL ,version of the game used in the video is something like 3.0,nothing changed in the meantime? Do you play Il2 at all?

Gulf war

FC </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yes the 109K4 speed and climb has changed sooo much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You really don't know what you are talking. Famous chess player Miguel Najdorf said once that it's good to take a look at a table during the game.

Same can be applied to you, you should take a look at the game from time to time.

In 3.00 days there were only one K4, now we have two version. Normal K4 have 30HP less and 230kg more than K4 from early days. K4C3 have 50HP more than old K4 but it also has 230kg more and again its performance is worser than before.

As you can see older K4 was 230kg lighter so you can imagine how that weight affect aircraft handling.

I'll say it again, advice form video is good but performing the maneuver in time when this video was recorded and now are two different things.

That's what people who actually play Il2 knows.And this 230kg is something that they can feel every time they take K4 and these 230 kg are reason why it's hard to transform raw K4 performance into meaningful advantage in combat.

FC

joeap
08-23-2008, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by FatCat_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FatCat_99:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
Nice job !

SOmeone should tell him the 109K4 is just absolutely useless, the 'aces' told me so... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

LOL ,version of the game used in the video is something like 3.0,nothing changed in the meantime? Do you play Il2 at all?

Gulf war

FC </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh yes the 109K4 speed and climb has changed sooo much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You really don't know what you are talking. Famous chess player Miguel Najdorf said once that it's good to take a look at a table during the game.

Same can be applied to you, you should take a look at the game from time to time.

In 3.00 days there were only one K4, now we have two version. Normal K4 have 30HP less and 230kg more than K4 from early days. K4C3 have 50HP more than old K4 but it also has 230kg more and again its performance is worser than before.

As you can see older K4 was 230kg lighter so you can imagine how that weight affect aircraft handling.

I'll say it again, advice form video is good but performing the maneuver in time when this video was recorded and now are two different things.

That's what people who actually play Il2 knows.And this 230kg is something that they can feel every time they take K4 and these 230 kg are reason why it's hard to transform raw K4 performance into meaningful advantage in combat.

FC </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right and which is more accurate, the "old" or new K4?